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FS: Beefy Rear Sway bar end links

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Old 07-29-2009 | 09:03 PM
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I will do that tomorrow.
Old 07-29-2009 | 09:52 PM
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I'll get some as well, of the Type 2 Modified (non-adjustable) end-links. <----- Adjustable to desired height, then LocTite to hold in place.


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EDIT: OK Swoope, here are some pics of the Type 2 End Links, these have been modified by removing the 2 Locking Nuts and replaced with LocTite (high strength.) The handling is different from the original, in that the rear feels a little more "tense." As always, your input is extremely appreciated!!!

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The rear fender height

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Old 07-29-2009 | 09:59 PM
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I am looking to get my corner balanced once I get the fronts. I'm just wondering if I should wait to get new shocks first. I wanna get some Bilstiens.
Old 07-30-2009 | 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
I am looking to get my corner balanced once I get the fronts. I'm just wondering if I should wait to get new shocks first. I wanna get some Bilstiens.
Killing two birds with one stone is never a bad idea; Bilstien is a respectable shock manufacturer, I used to work next door to their office in Poway (San Diego) two guys there gave me tips for upgrading my then S14 chassis suspension.

While installing the front End Links themselves have no negative affect on alignment, it could be beneficial when corner balancing to have the adjustment flexibility to suit the type of driving you are building your car for. Preload is a double edge sword, the more I work with it the more I learn about it's good side and it's evil side.
Old 07-30-2009 | 01:30 AM
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[QUOTE=Lebren;3142615]I'll get some as well, of the Type 2 Modified (non-adjustable) end-links. <----- Adjustable to desired height, then LocTite to hold in place.


Decals shipping!

EDIT: OK Swoope, here are some pics of the Type 2 End Links, these have been modified by removing the 2 Locking Nuts and replaced with LocTite (high strength.) The handling is different from the original, in that the rear feels a little more "tense." As always, your input is extremely appreciated!!!


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that photo covers the problem.

thanks..

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The idea is to have no pre load on the sways when the car is sitting flat, correct?
Old 07-30-2009 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
The idea is to have no pre load on the sways when the car is sitting flat, correct?
majority of the time yes, though with some tracks, it would be more beneficial to have more preload on one side than the other.

The second image covers the problem, and included in that image sprayed in red is the current alignment lobe. Also seen is the sway bar with yellow dot, and finally the ground. It appears the hint is pointing to the orientation of the sway bar, specifically where the yellow dot portion is.

Can you be a little more specific swoope? From what it sounds like, the sweet spot is somewhere between the initial setup and half an inch taller than current setup.
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Ordered a set of fronts alone... (I think my OEM ones are breaking, they are making sounds and stuff)

I'll let everyone know how they work out.
Old 08-18-2009 | 11:20 PM
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Weekend after next I'll be on a real track. Just need to get the fronts.
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Care to elaborate? Mine are just fine.
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UPDATE

I did have a problem while installing mine: The threading on the nuts sheared off as I was torquing them; I've never seen such a thing happen. I contacted Lebren and he's shipping me a new pair, so +1 on the customer service. Neither one of us are sure what the issue is exactly, but he's making sure that the nuts he uses this time are of high-quality steel, and should not have any of this issue.

A little glitch, but the seller has been very helpful in fixing the issue. Overall, I think you can be fairly confident ordering these in general, especially considering the price. I'll let everyone know how this ends up....


For what it's worth, end links should be tightened to spec, which may or may not be more than your hand-tightening. Factory spec is 31 to 44 ft-lbs; for larger aftermarket bars/links you should definitely use the upper end of this range.

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Old 08-28-2009 | 02:37 PM
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I actually didn't spec the nuts out, just tightened them as much as I could.
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By hand with a small ratchet I only got about 30ish ft-lbs
Yeah but that's because you have these bad boys
Old 08-28-2009 | 03:00 PM
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Just Kidding, oh and I have not had any clunking or noise issues on or off the track.
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I will slap a torque wrench set at 42ft/lbs on mine this weekend and see where mine are at.
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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
I will slap a torque wrench set at 42ft/lbs on mine this weekend and see where mine are at.
That'd be cool, I'm really curious. The outer (silver-colored) one sheared off first. I got steel replacement nuts for those at home depot. But then, when tightening THOSE, the inner (brass-colored, 13mm O.D.) nut started turning! (held the inner nut with an open-ended wrench while torquing the outer one with a torque wrench socket) I'm assuming those inner-nut threads scrapped as well, though I can't take it off to check.

UPDATE: I did have a problem with these links, but the seller is going to replace/resolve it. See this post:
https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...3&postcount=61

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Old 08-28-2009 | 08:35 PM
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First, I'd like to thank elysium19 for sharing his experience with us! The hardware I had used will be no more and I will be disposing them in the proper receptacle. I will be replacing enysium19's End Links Free of charge, in addition to sending out replacement Grade 8 Zink Plated hardware to those whom have purchased LEBREN End Links. I want you to have ONLY the BEST!

LEBREN End Links are most likely the only Standard hardware on the RX8, the Rod End Hex (built into end links) uses a 1/2" open end. and the replacement Grade 8 Rod End to threaded rod and nylon-insert locknut to sway bar will both be 9/16" open end plus should be torqued in addition with a 9/16" socket. Hand tightening is only used for shipping and these must be tightened to the desired height.

Thanks for your support!

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Old 08-31-2009 | 07:06 AM
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Bump!

Just wanted to say great product! I ordered the rears and they were shipped out in a rush to me so I could make an event yesterday (broke my rears with the progress swaybars)

The rear endlinks held up great even with 3 drivers beating on my car. Thanks again for shipping them out so quickly!!

Brian
Old 02-18-2010 | 09:14 PM
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7 months and still going strong Statewide Meet prerun this Saturday so I will punish them once again.
Old 02-19-2010 | 09:24 PM
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I abuse the hell out of these, canyon runs! Thanks for the update 9K let us know how they do after the punishment!
Old 02-20-2010 | 05:21 AM
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Yep, would you rather have the rear swaybar or suspension bend instead, because the only way you can bend the endlink like that is to install the rear bar upside down. Even the stiffest front or rear aftermarket bars won't bend the factory links.
Old 02-21-2010 | 01:21 PM
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Yep, would you rather have the rear swaybar or suspension bend instead, because the only way you can bend the endlink like that is to install the rear bar upside down. Even the stiffest front or rear aftermarket bars won't bend the factory links.
Team with no disrespect that issue was discussed ages ago. The need for replacement end links came from the previous ownership. With a number of sets on the road and the only complaint being a stripped nut I would say the design is extremely competent.
Old 02-21-2010 | 05:00 PM
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do you have any sets of these? How bout your rear rotary lights?
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Just came back this weekend from a 300 mile cruise through the best roads ever and these performed flawlessly as usual. Blew a radiator and a water pump belt but at least it was after the fun on the way back
Old 02-22-2010 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigbacon
do you have any sets of these? How bout your rear rotary lights?
Still making them, if you're interested please click my sig. thanks

9k, terrible news but at least it's only the belt... drive home was pretty slow huh?


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