Autox Critique Please
#1
Autox Critique Please
Fell behind in the slalom early on
Anyway, feel free to dissect my run to the bone, since I knew I had a steep learning curve.
Car setup on that day:
Front OEM + Rear Koni SA shocks
225/45/18 Kumho ECSTA SPT (38/33psi)
Tanabe front swaybar
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Anyway, feel free to dissect my run to the bone, since I knew I had a steep learning curve.
Car setup on that day:
Front OEM + Rear Koni SA shocks
225/45/18 Kumho ECSTA SPT (38/33psi)
Tanabe front swaybar
WARNING: The free hosting site may contain mature-rated graphics.
Last edited by CRX Millennium; 05-04-2006 at 02:35 AM.
#2
My novice suggestions would be to try and maintain a more constant speed through the slaloms instead of being on/off/on/off.
Other than that, it seems like in some parts of the course you were looking ahead and planning out your turns well, but in some areas it seems you are not.
my .02
Other than that, it seems like in some parts of the course you were looking ahead and planning out your turns well, but in some areas it seems you are not.
my .02
#5
Originally Posted by BigOLundh
My novice suggestions would be to try and maintain a more constant speed through the slaloms instead of being on/off/on/off.
Other than that, it seems like in some parts of the course you were looking ahead and planning out your turns well, but in some areas it seems you are not.
my .02
Other than that, it seems like in some parts of the course you were looking ahead and planning out your turns well, but in some areas it seems you are not.
my .02
Yes, identification of critical cones and blocking out the rest in the course walk phase is still something I'm learning.
Your $.02 is appreciated!
Any other feedbacks or do I just suck bad?
Last edited by CRX Millennium; 05-04-2006 at 10:34 AM.
#6
Oh btw, you are still better than me... if that makes you feel any better.
If i had taped my last autocross you would have seen many u-turns, spin outs, and the microphone lady making jokes about my driving while i was on the course.
It was pretty sad.
If i had taped my last autocross you would have seen many u-turns, spin outs, and the microphone lady making jokes about my driving while i was on the course.
It was pretty sad.
#7
LOL, yes, knowing what we should do is completely different from actually doing it out on the course. I can't count the number of times my well-rehersed plan goes down the tube when the nut steps into the car and straps behind the wheel.
The camcorder-on-top is great if I may say so. Having an instructor riding along is always better, but the camcorder is the next best thing to faithfully document the racing line.
The camcorder-on-top is great if I may say so. Having an instructor riding along is always better, but the camcorder is the next best thing to faithfully document the racing line.
#8
It seemed that you took some turns wider than you needed to in the first half. And I agree that smoother on the throttle in the last half is definitely needed. But still, I think it's a pretty darned good run. (You don't suck.) Did it rain that day? Parts of the track look wet. THAT will sure slow down some corners!
That camera angle is interesting. I have mine mounted in the back seat, so I don't see the course as well. Hmm (ponder ponder...)
That camera angle is interesting. I have mine mounted in the back seat, so I don't see the course as well. Hmm (ponder ponder...)
#9
The course was wet like a soaking rug in Lake Michigan in the morning, along with fog that you couldn't see thru. Sure made the driving/navigating fun! The 1st three runs were a bit touchy-feely throttle-goes, and the wide-angle-converter would be covered with mist at the end of each run. 4th run was the driest and also the quickest.
I used to have in-car camcorder rig, sitting midway between my back and back seats. I then realized that the camcorder could see jack, due to height and point-of-view issues. So instead, I order Sticky Pod Original (4-suction-cup) design from www.stickypod.com. It was a bit nerve-wrecking having my miniDV sitting on top of the car on the outside. I made sure to obtain clearance from local Solo Chief beforehand. Two safety measures were used to attach camcorder to the car as explained by the Chief, suction cup and tether.
In retrospect, I could use more wide-angle, though 0.6X was already pushing it before perception becomes fisheyed. The Sticky Pod held onto the car fine in cold temperature, though periodic checking would be recommended. Chase Cam is another oft-mentioned solution, though I already owned the miniDV, hence, minimal investment.
I used to have in-car camcorder rig, sitting midway between my back and back seats. I then realized that the camcorder could see jack, due to height and point-of-view issues. So instead, I order Sticky Pod Original (4-suction-cup) design from www.stickypod.com. It was a bit nerve-wrecking having my miniDV sitting on top of the car on the outside. I made sure to obtain clearance from local Solo Chief beforehand. Two safety measures were used to attach camcorder to the car as explained by the Chief, suction cup and tether.
In retrospect, I could use more wide-angle, though 0.6X was already pushing it before perception becomes fisheyed. The Sticky Pod held onto the car fine in cold temperature, though periodic checking would be recommended. Chase Cam is another oft-mentioned solution, though I already owned the miniDV, hence, minimal investment.
Last edited by CRX Millennium; 05-04-2006 at 12:03 PM.
#10
I need to break down and buy a camcorder. I think it can really help.
Actually.. for me the biggest obstacle is not my driving, its my memory. By my last run of the day i finally get the course down, and die for just one more run. I think if i can start reading the courses faster... than that will help. I think what i need more than anything else is just more seat time. Which is always fun
Here locally i have 5 autocrosses over the course of 8 weeks. Hopefully my car survives.. LOL!
Based on what you were saying, i think your problem also isnt based in not knowing how to race... but just doing what you tell yourself you are going to do. I think more seat time will also be your best friend.
-hS
Actually.. for me the biggest obstacle is not my driving, its my memory. By my last run of the day i finally get the course down, and die for just one more run. I think if i can start reading the courses faster... than that will help. I think what i need more than anything else is just more seat time. Which is always fun
Here locally i have 5 autocrosses over the course of 8 weeks. Hopefully my car survives.. LOL!
Based on what you were saying, i think your problem also isnt based in not knowing how to race... but just doing what you tell yourself you are going to do. I think more seat time will also be your best friend.
-hS
#11
Video cameras and, with some practice, visualization will really help you get a course down quickly. The greats can visualize a lap within a 1/10sec or so of a real lap.
I need to update my codecs or something, that site always plays videos in rainbow colour for me.
I need to update my codecs or something, that site always plays videos in rainbow colour for me.
#12
Originally Posted by BlueEyes
Video cameras and, with some practice, visualization will really help you get a course down quickly. The greats can visualize a lap within a 1/10sec or so of a real lap.
I need to update my codecs or something, that site always plays videos in rainbow colour for me.
I need to update my codecs or something, that site always plays videos in rainbow colour for me.
http://www.free-codecs.com/download/XP_Codec_Pack.htm and download the Codec Pack.
#13
Originally Posted by BigOLundh
I need to break down and buy a camcorder. I think it can really
help.
help.
Originally Posted by BigOLundh
Based on what you were saying, i think your problem also isnt based in not knowing how to race... but just doing what you tell yourself you are going to do. I think more seat time will also be your best friend.
Can't wait to have my clock cleaned at Devens Tour
#14
I can never critique autocross runs from video alone. Too difficult to know where the car is relative to the limits. Your best critique will come from competing at the highest level against the best drivers and seeing how you do, or having one of them ride along in your car during one of your runs.
Sorry couldn't be of more help.
Sorry couldn't be of more help.
#16
Originally Posted by John V
I can never critique autocross runs from video alone. Too difficult to know where the car is relative to the limits. Your best critique will come from competing at the highest level against the best drivers and seeing how you do, or having one of them ride along in your car during one of your runs.
Sorry couldn't be of more help.
Sorry couldn't be of more help.
Don't be shy with critique once we do meet at Devens
ps. TeamWTF was my inspiration for doing the video!
#17
Originally Posted by whiterex
Looked pretty fast, no protest??
bad joke....
bad joke....
#19
If that run is typical of your driving, I'm going to guess that you don't hit many cones. One of the two observations I can offer is that it looks like you keep a healthy distance away from the cones. If you got on top of them, and did nothing else, your times would probably drop a good bit. The other observation is that it sounded like you spent a lot of time coasting. It kind of touches on what John was saying about not knowing where the car was in relation to its limits, but if you're moving in straight (or nearly straight) line, you generally want to be hard on the gas or the brake, not with your foot in the air. I remember reading or hearing once that every flicker of indecision on course is worth at least 0.1 seconds.
just some comments from a midpack hack
just some comments from a midpack hack
#20
Originally Posted by clyde
If that run is typical of your driving, I'm going to guess that you don't hit many cones. One of the two observations I can offer is that it looks like you keep a healthy distance away from the cones. If you got on top of them, and did nothing else, your times would probably drop a good bit. The other observation is that it sounded like you spent a lot of time coasting.
just some comments from a midpack hack
just some comments from a midpack hack
Keep the comments coming! Midpack in WDCR is probably trophy in most of other regions, knowing how competitive it is in your neck of woods. I want to get a list of personal mental check-points so I can hammer them into my head each time I drive. Thus far:
1. Unwind the wheel but don't loose grip when coming out of turns
2. Attack slalom with less amount of steering input
3. Use threshold braking and put-your-right-foot-thru-firewall when accelerating
#22
Clyde and I always PAX around the top 15 or better at the WDCR events. All that says to me is that we have a pretty well prepped car with reasonably fresh, sticky tires. Neither of us have had a lot of national success.
When you're at Devens, be sure to watch KC drive. He will be by far the best driver in the class and is someone to use as a benchmark.
When you're at Devens, be sure to watch KC drive. He will be by far the best driver in the class and is someone to use as a benchmark.
#23
Originally Posted by John V
When you're at Devens, be sure to watch KC drive. He will be by far the best driver in the class and is someone to use as a benchmark.
I coned my 2 fastest. That seems to be a problem of mine.
--kC
#24
Originally Posted by John V
Clyde and I always PAX around the top 15 or better at the WDCR events. All that says to me is that we have a pretty well prepped car with reasonably fresh, sticky tires. Neither of us have had a lot of national success.