hum.. sorry I really don't know about it.. ha ha .. I just thought a great track car for track..

 

in addition to stock classes, some of the newer classes like STU might be a good option for the rx8.

a guy from our region just won SM2 at nationals in a rotary powered car (the old tri-point rx-7).

james

 

"A guy from our region"?!?

"Yeah, don't mind him -- he's just some multi-time national-championship-winning, master-of-our-sport guy from our region."

Give it time. After four years of existence, s2ki.com is in definite decline...

Steve
- took ten runs at a recent practice event only to have Andy jump in the same car for the first time in a year, put in visibly bad run, and still beat my best time by a half second

 

The car is a good contender in STU, though a well prepped and driven M3 may edge it out a bit.

I think the Z4 (if it stays) and the MS Miata will be the new B-Stock *****, but then I'm of course still rooting for the 8

 

Are you familiar with the Mazdaspeed's tire and gearing issues? Paper exercises aside, Rob Falkner set up a Mazdaspeed Miata, brought it to the Toledo Tour, and got beat badly by not only the S2000s, but also the C Stock Miatas as well. One data point does not a final verdict make, but things aren't looking too promising for the Mazdaspeed's chances in BS, with or without the S2000 present.

Add to your list: Boxster, 968, 350Z, MR2 Turbo.

Steve

 

Ok, next newbie question -- can you fit a set of wheels with mounted 275s in the back of an RX-8, or is a tire trailer required?

Thanks,
Steve

 

You currently drive an S2k and you don't already own a tire trailer?

Followup question to Steve's - what are the best lightweight Stock wheel options? A quick surf turns up SSRs, but I don't know how they compare - weight or price-wise - to some of the 3-piece wheels like Kodiak, CCW, etc.

Iain
(runs to garage to measure the current iteration of his tire trailer to see if 275/35/18s will fit...)

 

A3S04 275/35-18s fit fine in the back seats.

 

I've got a trailer already, but it's always a pain to wheel it out, hook it up to the car, strap the tires to it, etc., etc. Tossing tires in the back of the car would be much more convenient. Also, from a brief perusal of this forum, there doesn't seem to be a good trailer hitch solution for the RX-8 yet.

First off, I'd rule out CCWs. They have all of the disadvantages of custom wheels (the need to custom order, long wait times between ordering and actually having wheels in hand, expense) yet aren't particularly light.

I lost the thread, but I'm under the impression that Kodiaks aren't meaningfully lighter than SSRs. That, combined with the fact that they're more expensive and need to be custom built (oftentimes after a long wait), means that if I end up in an RX-8, I'm just going to go the easy route and get SSRs.

For the record, prices:

SSRs - $1676
CCWs - ~$1800
Kodiaks - $2056

Steve

 

I was familiar with them, though I still think that this car is a wait and see. The 350Z is great, but I think the weight of the car is it's undoing and honestly, I don't know enough about the MR2 T and 968 to comment on them.

 

the 968 is a cool car, similar to the rx8 in some ways. i drove several and almost bought one a few years ago, but they arent very many of them.

M2T is a great car, but if you live in constant fear of falling off the boost. then it is a dog.

i was going to get CCW also, but then discovered they arent that light. if you are going to street drive your wheels though, the super light race wheels likely wont hold up to the abuse of the pubic roads.

had a chance to autocross a 350Z and my rx8 back to back on the same course. the 350Z had two big problems- the lsd isnt up to the task, and the power steering would lose boost. it had more torque but could carry less speed through the corner so it was forced to accelerate more to keep up.

james

 

After selling my FD RX-7, I looked at a couple of 968s. I really liked the car, but the potential maintenance costs scared me off. Thankfully, the Miata has taken three years of racing abuse with nary a whimper.

That's a disappointment to hear about the 350Z's power steering. I used to drive a Prelude SH that had the same problem in slaloms, where the power steering couldn't keep up. It was very annoying, and one of the reasons that I went with a manual steering rack on the Miata.

If the S2k gets booted up to A Stock, B Stock looks to be a very interesting class next season. Another dark horse for B Stock that has always been a favorite of mine is the 240-hp BMW M Coupe - a very fun car to drive in "toss & catch" mode. :D

 

when i was doing research on the 968, it seemed some of the worst weaknesses of the 944 engine heritage had been resolved.

curiously, the 968 i almost bought was owned by a 'gal from our region', which coincidently drove that same tri-point rx7 to a win in ASP in 1998 and now road races mazdas. black 6sp coupe. but now i have the rx8, black 6sp coupe

yeah, andy's a big shot now but i knew him when he was still a mortal.

james

 

C'mon guys. All of you S2000 guys are going to sell a great car because you don't want to run with and beat the C4s?

Seriously, I think BS will be fun to watch if the '2000 moves. What car will be the next ubber car in the sports car class? I've already started down the STU road and have too much invested to go back to BS, but it will be great to watch some RX-8s battle it out with the other BS contenders.

 

No S2000 here, I'm a C Stock lemming driver ('99 Sport Miata). :D

However, I'm looking for a new daily driver, one that has a backseat for the inevitable near future (2-3 years) baby seat. The Miata will be staying - it's just too much good, cheap fun on the track. Plus, it's paid for. But, I know its days as a competitive Stock class car are likely drawing to an end, so why not find a fun daily driver that can double as the next competitive Stock class car when the Miata becomes obsolete?

 

I fully believe that the S2000 would be competitive against the C4; this year's Nationals results confirm what was already becoming apparent from earlier Tour and Pro results. I'm thinking of changing cars for no other reason than because I like changing cars -- this season was my first season ever where I drove the same kind of car I'd driven the year previous. If the S2000 moves to AS and opens up a wealth of choices in BS, great. If not, I might move to some other class instead.

Steve

 

I'm as bad as you - three different cars in three different classes in four years. I have yet to wear out a pair of OEM tires. :p

 

2001 I was in my WRX wagon in the then GS
2002, 2003, 2004 - STX with the same car (won STX both Solo-II/ProSolo Nationals with it in 2003)

I tend to stay with something for a while... so the RX-8 would around for a while.

Just want something that's a little more fun. SUre the WRX was fun, but... it's just not the same.

 

I picked it up last night. Got stuff that should be here today or Tuesday to go on next week.

(Front Sway Bar, Endlinks, Panel Filter, Harness)

Zoom Zoom!

--KC
(Claiming my number now... #66 BS) :D

 

Congratulations!

Steve
- currently #68 BS

 

KC, where'd you get the harnesses?

 

It's a 3 point harness not specifically for the car.... going to do a test fit. I'll let you know where I got it from when I do a test fit.

--kC

 

Did you get it installed? If so, how does it work with the stock seat? I don't have the budget for new seats (run STU) and am curious how well a harness can work with the stock seats.

 

Just got it yesterday. I don't think that I'll have time this week to do the install... and looking at the mounting points for the seat, I think I might run into an issue... but I won;t know until I get the seat taken out to look at things in closer detail. I'll post when I find out.

--kC