changes needed for RX8
#51
I'm ruinning -1.3f, -1.5r, zero toe all around.
#52
Momentum Keeps Me Going
There's so many threads on alignment, just let's say here one should be done (along w/corner balance if possible) if you are serious about setting up the car as best as possible. Each car is different, esp w/lowering/car & driver weight/car use and then there's personal preference for handling attitude.
#53
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I just want optimal alignment on stock set-up. (ie no lowering nor increased dampening whatsoever)
SouthTL, is the 0 toe a stock setting? Or you have to specify 0 toe (out or in?)
SouthTL, is the 0 toe a stock setting? Or you have to specify 0 toe (out or in?)
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Stock setting has a little toe in, both in front and the rear. I ran the stock set-up for two track weekends and it was great. Once I upgraded the suspension and tires I went with a more aggressive set-up.
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Well, I have to admit, going faster does seem more fun to me. ![Smilie](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/smile.gif)
In all honesty, decent street tires that I will want to drive on all summer (Pilot Sports, Eagle F1's) are more expensive and die faster on the track that even the cheapest R-comp tires. I could easily get 4 summers out of a single set of tires if NOT used on the track, and a 17" wheel makes the track tires even cheaper. This will pay for itself over time. (Not to mention the issue of having track pad dust all over my daily driver wheels.)
![Smilie](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/smile.gif)
In all honesty, decent street tires that I will want to drive on all summer (Pilot Sports, Eagle F1's) are more expensive and die faster on the track that even the cheapest R-comp tires. I could easily get 4 summers out of a single set of tires if NOT used on the track, and a 17" wheel makes the track tires even cheaper. This will pay for itself over time. (Not to mention the issue of having track pad dust all over my daily driver wheels.)
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We track a lot--one members car has over 5K track miles on it.
Since you are experienced and probably push it a little here is what i recommend
1- brakes pads--correct--pad of choice here, dont forget the fluid--thats a given for a old pro anyway.
2- shocks---the tail gets a little squirrelly on high speed hard braking
3- the rotory engine with its 270 degree flame front likes to run hot. Get real gauges, the ones on the car are dummies.
4- change your coolant to a 70% water and 30 % coolant.
5- do not run a 5W/20- on track--- most of us run a 10W 30 or a 10W40---make sure the oil is warm before you rev her good(tight bearing clearances)
6- all of us pre mix--some all the time some for the track only 1/2 oz synthetic pre mix per gallon.
7- new plugs usually makes a nice difference for the track---plugs go bad for peak performance in as little as 15K miles.
8--get a GOOD alignment--the factory one sucks.
Track her! Then-------
now wipe that silly assed smile off your face!!
olddragger
Since you are experienced and probably push it a little here is what i recommend
1- brakes pads--correct--pad of choice here, dont forget the fluid--thats a given for a old pro anyway.
2- shocks---the tail gets a little squirrelly on high speed hard braking
3- the rotory engine with its 270 degree flame front likes to run hot. Get real gauges, the ones on the car are dummies.
4- change your coolant to a 70% water and 30 % coolant.
5- do not run a 5W/20- on track--- most of us run a 10W 30 or a 10W40---make sure the oil is warm before you rev her good(tight bearing clearances)
6- all of us pre mix--some all the time some for the track only 1/2 oz synthetic pre mix per gallon.
7- new plugs usually makes a nice difference for the track---plugs go bad for peak performance in as little as 15K miles.
8--get a GOOD alignment--the factory one sucks.
Track her! Then-------
now wipe that silly assed smile off your face!!
olddragger
I've had my RX-8 for about 3 weeks now, and have owned a E36 M3 that I tracked several times. First of all, I love the RX-8. 2nd, it's a fantastic car out of the box. The tires wear suprisingly well, don't feel nearly as squishy as you'd think a high performance all-season would, and have a decent amount of grip. 3. I feel like I'm letting this car down. I've never driven a car that handles so well, and feels like it has a reserve of grip.
My initial impressions of my BONE stock RX-8 is that it does get squirrely under braking. I'm wondering if an alignment will take care of that. Also, maybe I'm used to understeer, but when I turn in sharply the whole rear end rotates (oversteers) more than I'm used to. I don't think I like tail happiness of the car, and want the rear end to stay a bit more planted and not rotate as much.
I hate to modify this car at all, but other than an alignment and MAYBE koni's, is there anything I can do to take care of the braking and oversteer issues?
Maybe I should just get that alignment and see what goes on from there.
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I don't think I can help you since I found the car to understeer stock, and changed the alignment to reduce understeer. I went to -1 camber +7 caster 0 toe up front and -1.5 camber with zero toe out back. The car is very neutral on street tires.
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