fullsmoke

Yah, those Silvias with the SR20DEt (is that right?) are always out at those events. It's amazing how many people have seen Initial D... I wonder if many of those people even like anime?

FS

RotorManiac

lol I try to go sideways almost on every corner that I see

Problem is setting up the suspension for drifting. Stock one is ok, but, from what I've heard, stiffer rear end helps more. So I think, with an ajustable coilover one can have different settings for track or drift events.
Does anyone know which coilover is the best for this job? I have the HKS hypermax in mind or the tein flex...

RX4life

the hatchback 240s are the most fun to drift with IMO... i take my cousins car and slide it everywhere.. the car feels lighter and more responsive to drifts because of the lower end torque i guess.. its really easy to drift in those cars... thats my opinion.. me too paranoid to drive with my 40K+ car CAN$$

Astor

let's see I've gone through 5 sets of tires in 20,000 miles

ThatREGuy

HaHa, yeah 4 months and I need a new pair too. But I never said drifting is better around every corner, thats just stupid, drifting around some corners is going to be faster. Try gripping at a higher speed around your favorite turn and, do it fast enough, and you'll drift. You can call it a drift if its controlled. Also if its not a power slide, theres a difference. And truth is Im biased, Drifting just lets you blow off steam, ya know? Push your car hard enough, dont be afraid, and you cant avoid a drift. Also Im not stupid, I stopped drifting on the street a long time ago. DUH! I finally borrowed initial D, Ill watch it! I still think anime is just a cartoon. Oh and silvias are great drift cars, they turned into 240sx's here, I think, Ill double check. Sil80 though was the only car built entirely with drifting in mind though.

Rhawb

If I'm not mistaken (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong), Sileighty's were never actual production cars, they were simply Silvia's with 180SX front clips on them (hence the name). They were made popular because of drifting though, because the Silvia drivers would wreck and then replace their front ends with 180 front ends since they fit and were a lot cheaper than replacing a Silvia front clip.

RenesisRacer

I don't really know anything about drifting, and we may be thinking the same thing, but from what I've been taught about driving (and experienced) 'drifting' is never the fastest way around the track. When you're trying to drive fast you're trying to push the tires right up into to thier optimum slip angles. Any less and you can go faster, any more and you're scrubbing off speed.The term for that is four-wheel drift so I guess you're right.
But when someone talks about drifting I generally think of a car thrown into a corner sideways and big oversteer coming out (is that what you mean by powersliding?). In racing slight rotation of the car is generally desireable, but not outragious full-lock oversteer.

That said full-lock oversteer really looks impressive and makes you feel like you're making sure the car knows it's the bitch :p

I've allways wondered how they judge drift competitions, is it based on time or do they have a panel of judges or something?

No More Oldsmobiles

I thought drifting competitions were judged on points, not time. If I'm wrong, someone will correct me. I don't drift. As a matter of fact, I was wondering -- don't most cars need some mods just to take the stress? Isn't it brutal on the bushings or something?

ThatREGuy

I thought drifting competitions were judged on points, not time. If I'm wrong, someone will correct me. I don't drift. As a matter of fact, I was wondering -- don't most cars need some mods just to take the stress? Isn't it brutal on the bushings or something?

No, any car you drift is a drift car. I have a friend who drifts a ford escort wagon, and he's hella good. He does have to pull the E barke though(FF). The 8 can easily take what most drivers throw at it. Drift competitions are judged on show, technique, speed, and more.

Yes you're right, about the mod made to the 180.

they were simply Silvia's with 180SX front clips on them (hence the name). They were made popular because of drifting though, because the Silvia drivers would wreck and then replace their front ends with 180 front ends since they fit


Nissan saw the popularity in it and they made the sil80. Very limited. Again only real production car made for drifting.


Yes!

I don't really know anything about drifting, and we may be thinking the same thing, but from what I've been taught about driving (and experienced) 'drifting' is never the fastest way around the track. When you're trying to drive fast you're trying to push the tires right up into to thier optimum slip angles. Any less and you can go faster, any more and you're scrubbing off speed.The term for that is four-wheel drift so I guess you're right.
But when someone talks about drifting I generally think of a car thrown into a corner sideways and big oversteer coming out (is that what you mean by powersliding?). In racing slight rotation of the car is generally desireable, but not outragious full-lock oversteer.


When there is a wild oversteer we usually call that a show drift. But a four wheel drift I do consider a drift. The crabwalks unless taken at an incredibly fast speed rarely make a turn faster. And you have to be hella good. But they are fun as hell!!! I know everyone here baby their 8s, and you should, but play with it when it's safe. When you get better at it, four wheel drifts just keep coming out of the car. And when I refer to powerslide (the definition I have come to accept anyway) I mean when you use the torque of a car to spin the wheels. Kind of what the dukes of hazard used to do in the general lee.

Rhawb

While modification isn't necessary for drifting, it's definitely a good idea. Stock cars will only hold up to drifting only for so long before things start to give out. Fast. Stock parts are only made with one thing in mind, really - the every day drive and aren't really suited for the extended stress of drifting. Drifting (obviously) wears on the entire car a whole lot faster than your everyday drive. Regular drifting on stock parts will lead to lots of replacement. If you go ahead and beef everything up, it's probably going to handle a whole lot nicer and last a whole lot longer.

crossbow

I'm always amazed at how popular drifting caught on...especially since its marketed/sponsored by the tire manufacturers. Hmm...why would the tire manufacturers want people to drift? I have no idea why...

Imp

I will not forgive your age, and neither will your parents.

http://www.wpri.com/Global/story.asp?S=3083799

Reports are filtering in he was doing donuts and powerslides in a Camaro. (It's only a matter of time until someone connects the term 'drifting' to this.)

Bring it to a sanctioned event.

--kC

staticlag

Note to self: Upgrade suspension on old POS cars before attempting serious driving techniques.

KYLiquid

This is sad to hear, more evidence that some auto-activitys are better left for the right place and time.

Were lucky that down here in FL, there is never more than a month or two till the next drift event in the area, at a track.

I would imagine that in a cammaro that he would have had to hit a parking curb, pot hold, uneven spot of pavement or something while going sideways to get the car to flip onto its roof. IMO

talk about a lot of body roll.

Imp

Front end of the car caught a mound of plowed snow (which is now ice). It looks like a little course through various snow piles... the video of the news report clearly show the tire track that looks to be the front end of the car heading right toward a 3 foot high mound... a ramp as you will... which looked to have lifed the front end of the car in the air and given enough speed and sideways motion, would definitly flip the car.

The front end had definitly crossed over (at speed.. not doing donuts) and looks as if he aimed at the mound as the apex of the turn. It was a parking lot that's unused in the winter... he was definitely out there 'to have fun'. That cost him his life.

--kC

--kC

RenesisRacer

Crabwalking?

mike0615

Drifting is fun, but lets be serious, out on the tracks, u will never get a faster lap time drifting compared to gripping. its just commen sense, tires don't grip, power is being wasted. sorry, just had to get that outta my system, carry on. :p

Imp

No, the trick is to get your inside tires in the gutter and it'll pull you around on the inside of your opponent. - Works every time.

BigOLundh

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so you get in 2 accidents and consider that a good thing, something worth posting about? you are such a freaking idiot. I honestly hope your next accident is with a tree, and you die.

I know to many people who have gotten in car accidents and have been in the hospital, suffering in much pain because of other retards on the road. Retards Street Racing, Drifting, and essentially acting like a damn fool.

If you must drift, go drift on a race track and not in public.

rx8spiritR

i power slides all the time with my old nike airforce I , it's the best tool to start drifting.

crossbow

After graduating from the nike, move on to a big wheel. The giant bling bling front wheel and lack of rear traction enables easy powersliding. Plus, you can repair body damage with a hot glue gun!

moRotorMotor

I drift r/c cars.

ThatREGuy

Call me an idiot all you want, but the fact is that it's fun as hell. Those accidents were only cosmestic (which I will add to the sig) and they werent in the 8. I know you all speed over the speed limit and that is dangerous in itself. We take precautions when drifting. Accidents do make you better. Those accidents I did have when I was an over eager kid driving. Kind of like skiing, you fall when you make a mistake and you learn from it. except in car you're always in a "no fall" situation.

But I have since found that racing on a track is funner, and parking lots. Just dont be stupid and keep the car in mind. There is no snow where I live and if you drift where there is pot holes there is probably a lot of gravel, that messes up the paint. And a camaro? You cant control a camaro in a drift, they're not made for that.

Crab walk is when you have to turn your head in order to see where the car is going. Umm.. how do you better explain...its going forward sidways, like a crab.

And I'll change the sig, I thought more people drifted their cars, guess not.

Also danger is fun, dont deny that.

mike0615

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BigOLundh

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OK, will do