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Old 03-02-2008 | 06:19 PM
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Lots of Canadian input here. I have an '07 Canadian car and I've had lots of fun drifting around in the snow this winter with only pressing the button once.

It's also fairly obvious when the computer is intervening on the track. I've forgotten to press the button before and the system cuts in pretty hard. I just press the button and I'm free from its limitations.
Old 03-02-2008 | 11:41 PM
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Talking Canada?

Originally Posted by SpIcEz
Im new so cant confirm either way, but I can say this.

There is allot of snow here. If I just press the button once, I can spin my tires all day long (or until I run out of gas ) no bogging down, just spin.
SpIcEz - where you from? does your TCS blink when spinning wheels in the snow around the 8-9k rpm range? fyi fuel cut kicks in at 9.2k so you'll be fine. test test test I don't want to have to drive with 'ballast' holding my laptop in the car
Old 03-03-2008 | 01:02 PM
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My car acts like Swoope's...but I'm also in the USA
Old 03-03-2008 | 02:17 PM
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It turns on when I havent pressed the DSC button.

Do you mean, if I have it off, and I rev in the snow up to 8-9k does it blink ?

I'll have to check that, I dont usually have to rev up to 9k when drifting around in the snow.
Old 03-03-2008 | 02:24 PM
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My car acts like Swoope's...but I'm also in the USA
Just so we are 100% straight here. When you turn off DSC by pushing - then try and spin your tires, the traction control system intervenes and your DSC Indicator light (squiggly lines) illuminates?
Old 03-03-2008 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by SpIcEz
It turns on when I havent pressed the DSC button.

Do you mean, if I have it off, and I rev in the snow up to 8-9k does it blink ?

I'll have to check that, I dont usually have to rev up to 9k when drifting around in the snow.
You don't need to rev that high - just get your tires spinning. Does your DSC Indicator (squiggly lines) light blink at any time after you turn off DSC by pressing?
Old 03-03-2008 | 02:52 PM
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Old 03-03-2008 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Mobile
Just so we are 100% straight here. When you turn off DSC by pushing - then try and spin your tires, the traction control system intervenes and your DSC Indicator light (squiggly lines) illuminates?
I dont know about just spinning the tires...I do know that if you take an auto-x corner too aggressively with just DSC off, it will park the car and the squiggly light will come on.
Old 03-03-2008 | 03:44 PM
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nope
Which means both DSC and TC systems are disabled by pressing the DSC Off button. This is because traction control is a subsystem of DSC. There is no need to hold down the DCS button.
Old 03-03-2008 | 06:18 PM
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do you ever feel like doing this Mobile might be more productive
Old 03-03-2008 | 06:50 PM
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do you ever feel like doing this Mobile might be more productive
LOL - I was just thinking that!
Old 03-03-2008 | 07:43 PM
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My USDM car with DSC behaves like Mobile's (I wrote similar earlier but didn't specify my car's nationality).
Old 03-05-2008 | 10:33 AM
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thought i'd ask this here, couldnt seem to find anything on it. i do go out to the occasional auto-x, and because its not too regular, i do forget to turn the DSC off all the way until the first major turn in the course, then i can only turn it partially off.

would it be a bad idea to pull the DSC/ABS fuse for the track/auto-x day. i bet i'd have to reset it but thats easily done. just wondering i there were any repercussions i dont anticipate. thanks, nick
Old 03-05-2008 | 11:04 AM
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Well if that fuse disables ABS as well as DSC you better start saving for some new tyres ....... Ask me how I know
Old 03-05-2008 | 11:20 AM
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Well if that fuse disables ABS as well as DSC you better start saving for some new tyres ....... Ask me how I know
lol, i am. there are 2 fuses for the dsc i think. There is a large 60A one labeled DSC/ABS, as well as a smaller, 30A fuse below it labeled just DSC. I'm thinking pulling those will let me turn the car off in between runs while im sitting in grid, and let the brakes cool properly, rather than leave it running so i dont have to remember to turn off DSC all the way.has anyone tried this or will i pioneer it. i think i read somewhere people were pulling at least one of the fuses for dyno runs...im not 100% sure tough.
Old 03-06-2008 | 01:06 PM
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Rather then leave your car running, or pull fuses, just tape a note to your steering wheel or dash that says "TURN OFF DCS".

What we have been debating here is the fact that some drivers believe that you need to hold the DSC button to turn everything off - but other drivers armed with their own experiences, owners manual and service manual believe this to not be the case. Holding the DCS button does nothing more then pressing it, except to trigger an error condition in your DCS system as the computer thinks there's a short.

Your input would be appreciated:
If you turn off DSC by pressing, are you able to get the DSC Indicator light (squiggly lines) to illuminate? Try spinning up your tires and watch for the light.

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Old 03-06-2008 | 01:48 PM
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If you are faster in the wet or dry with the DSC or TC on you need to work on your driving. The OE TC and DSC systems are not a performance based system and they will slow you down every time.
Very true. I forgot to turn the DSC off on my first Sunday run at the Dixie NT and dropped almost 4 seconds by my 2nd run!

Factory DSC is definitely not performance based - from my experience it'll cut the power anytime it detects wheelspin or the car sliding.
Old 03-06-2008 | 01:59 PM
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Very true. I forgot to turn the DSC off on my first Sunday run at the Dixie NT and dropped almost 4 seconds by my 2nd run!

Factory DSC is definitely not performance based - from my experience it'll cut the power anytime it detects wheelspin or the car sliding.
I don't understand how you could not notice DCS being activated? I would think it would become apparent after the first corner?
Old 03-06-2008 | 02:35 PM
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Im sure he did notice in the 1st corner...that's why he dropped 4 secs off of his next run.
Old 03-06-2008 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Mobile
I don't understand how you could not notice DCS being activated? I would think it would become apparent after the first corner?
Oh I noticed it alright, but I don't have the "mad tight skillz" to hold the button down while navigating an autocross course!
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Im sure he did notice in the 1st corner...that's why he dropped 4 secs off of his next run.
Correct.
Old 03-06-2008 | 03:25 PM
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Im sure he did notice in the 1st corner...that's why he dropped 4 secs off of his next run.
No doubt - I was just poking fun - he did state he lost 4 seconds on the run, not the corner.

Both of your input would be appreciated:
If you turn off DSC by pressing (not holding), are you able to get the DSC Indicator light (squiggly lines) to illuminate? Try spinning up your tires and watch for the light.

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Old 03-06-2008 | 06:53 PM
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On my way out of the parking at work today, I went sideways at 9k rpm with just the DSC button pushed once.

Now ABS breaking, no engine cut off except at the standard fuel cut off.

And more importantly, no squiggly lines.
Old 03-06-2008 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Mobile
Both of your input would be appreciated:
If you turn off DSC by pressing (not holding), are you able to get the DSC Indicator light (squiggly lines) to illuminate? Try spinning up your tires and watch for the light.
Yes, I've had it happen to me on an autox course before.
Old 03-06-2008 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by SpIcEz
On my way out of the parking at work today, I went sideways at 9k rpm with just the DSC button pushed once.

Now ABS breaking, no engine cut off except at the standard fuel cut off.

And more importantly, no squiggly lines.
I hope your engine was warm!
Old 03-06-2008 | 10:45 PM
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