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Old 12-18-2005 | 11:07 PM
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looks like it will take a 3/16" - 1/4" spacer on the Enkei RP-F1 18 x 9.5" wheels sold by Goodwin Racing to clear the front RacingBrake caliper

fender clearance won't be an issue, but that's about the limit of the OE wheel stud length to still have enough lugnut thread engagement
Old 12-19-2005 | 12:13 AM
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Another good reason to stay with the stock calipers I guess ...
Old 12-19-2005 | 12:20 AM
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except that you miss out on a major part of the weight savings, but it's close and I wasn't exactly using highly accurate measurement devices, I already have a set of spacers so no biggie for me


BTW, Tuesday December 20 is the last day of the pre-sale



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Old 12-30-2005 | 07:30 PM
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notified today that the pre-sale order is shipping soon
Old 12-30-2005 | 07:32 PM
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Hear any word on the rears TeamRX8? Would be nice to get both at the same shipment.
Old 12-30-2005 | 07:41 PM
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The rear rotors are still in the prototype phase, they won't offer them for pre-sale until the design details are finished. So no, they aren't available to be delivered with the pre-sale orders.
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Great..can't wait till they come. I'm sure the back rotors won't be for a few months
Old 12-31-2005 | 10:52 AM
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If they finish them by spring it should be all good. Also, I talked to the shipping supervisor not two days ago and he said that they were having problems getting some parts from one of their manufacturers (for the brake kit) and that he was not sure when the kits would ship.
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w00t, order has shipped

too bad my car is sitting on jackstands without any springs/shocks
Old 01-04-2006 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
too bad my car is sitting on jackstands without any springs/shocks
Who remembers the SNL skit about the trans am being up on blocks?
Old 01-04-2006 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by clyde
Who remembers the SNL skit about the trans am being up on blocks?


fwiw, I wasn't inferring anything about the box that shipped today
Old 01-06-2006 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
looks like it will take a 3/16" - 1/4" spacer on the Enkei RP-F1 18 x 9.5" wheels sold by Goodwin Racing to clear the front RacingBrake caliper

fender clearance won't be an issue, but that's about the limit of the OE wheel stud length to still have enough lugnut thread engagement
Team, I agree that loosing a 1/4" of stud is really at the limit, but also, aren't your treads hanging out of your fender now?
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Old 01-06-2006 | 10:58 PM
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I wish I could replicate your loquaciousness, but I only ask because the sidewalls of 275 are just visable as you look down on the wheel well (the tread is not). 265s would only be 5 mm inboard at best and a 1/4 back out should make the tread visable. (Unless you have a good amount of -camber. Hadn't thought about that, and considering you...)
Old 01-06-2006 | 11:04 PM
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I would never use stock studs with anything bigger than a 1/8" spacer:

http://cashmo.org/2005/05.atlanta.br....dsp.wheel.mpg
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I can appretiate that. It is what it is, right?
Old 01-06-2006 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ULLLOSE
I would never use stock studs with anything bigger than a 1/8" spacer:

http://cashmo.org/2005/05.atlanta.br....dsp.wheel.mpg

that's not quite correct

it would just depend on how long the OE studs are, the length of engagement is all that matters

and the BMW uses lugbolts, not studs, they were too short and to fully engage the threaded holes in the 3/8" thick hub, the engagement on the RX-8 would exceed that, FWIW I ran just under 3/16" spacers all year with my SSR's to be at the full 1/4" max offset

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Old 01-06-2006 | 11:13 PM
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That looks like a fairly wide spacer in the video.......I have a no wheel spacer rule. If it doesn't fit don't fake it...
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
as usual, you don't have your facts straight

it would just depend on how long the OE studs are, the length of engagement is all that matters

and the BMW uses lugbolts, not studs, they were too short and to fully engage the threaded holes in the 3/8" thick hub, the engagement on the RX-8 would exceed that, FWIW I ran 3/16" spacers all year with my SSR's
The link was just to show a point... I am aware that stock BMWs use bolts, as you know many SP BMWs use studs. You go right ahead and use wtf ever combo you want. In the past when I use spacers I used longer studs so I did not have to worry about that. fwiw any time I have seen something like that happen it was due to cheap lugs rather than a stud failure.

My math might be off, how did you put a 48mm offset wheel with a 3/16" (4.7625mm) spacer and still be legal for BS? That adds up to 6.7625mm (.26624") offset which is not legal. Or did you mean you used a 3mm spacer?

Damn, you would try to edit that before I got a chance to reply.

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Old 01-06-2006 | 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by carbonRX8
I wish I could replicate your loquaciousness....
Now there's a word that doesn't pop up enough in everyday conversation...

Has anyone looked at the DBA 5000 series 2-piece rotors that are available for the RX-8?? They should be available from Stillen in California. I have no idea what they'd cost over there.

http://www.dba.com.au/usa.asp

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Also available in drilled/slotted....

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Originally Posted by ULLLOSE
The link was just to show a point... I am aware that stock BMWs use bolts, as you know many SP BMWs use studs. You go right ahead and use wtf ever combo you want. In the past when I use spacers I used longer studs so I did not have to worry about that. fwiw any time I have seen something like that happen it was due to cheap lugs rather than a stud failure.

My math might be off, how did you put a 48mm offset wheel with a 3/16" (4.7625mm) spacer and still be legal for BS? That adds up to 6.7625mm (.26624") offset which is not legal. Or did you mean you used a 3mm spacer?

Damn, you would try to edit that before I got a chance to reply.

I edited the other part too, my apology for being rude, I'm sick and grumpy

the spacers were resurfaced to knock off 0.02", in my book that still makes them 3/16" but they are legal in stock with a 48mm offset wheel
Old 01-07-2006 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by ULLLOSE
fwiw any time I have seen something like that happen it was due to cheap lugs rather than a stud failure.
Not this time. In his own words:
The main culprit was insufficient stud length (ok, no comments here, perverts...). 20mm spacing with studs which were already marginal in length for my former 15mm spacers was not, apparently, the right answer. Nor were the hardware store washers used to gain the extra 5mm. New, longer ones were not available in time so I pushed my luck with these. And lost.
Not to discount the wisdom of adding stud length when appropriate, but Flannigan did everything he could to make that happen. He wasn't even getting two threads of engagement.

FWIW, this is the front wheel that didn't come off after the car was back up on the trailer:

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DUH? sometimes the brain shuts off for the chance to win in a competition.......

That's over 3/4 of an inch of spacers......


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