slightly off-topic and maybe a repost, but has this MS3 HPDE crash vid made the rounds yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx-zmGm3Kj4
(look closely, you can see the MS3 flyin' about in the distance)

are the braking problems suggested in the comments area a known issue w/ the MS3??

 

wow i can almost see nothing in this vid

 

I would hardly call a failure to check brake pad thickness prior to heading out on the track "brake failure".

I'd also be interested in knowing what type brake pads were on the car. People should understand that street cars, even high performance street cars, were not designed for the kind of abuse cars take on a race track. My advice to anyone doing a track day is to make sure that your brakes and tires and all safety equipment are up to the task at hand.

 

Not good at all - what a bummer

 

Oucch! Hope that guy made it out alive

 

+1 That car took a nasty hit!

 

These are the info given to the video.

It is so true to check the brake.

AND make sure you have at least 50% of the pad before the day. The last 25% of any compound may not withstand the heat it should absorb and crumble to nothing.

That is prob what happen there.

 

daam that got f'ed up!

 

Glad the guys ok, sorry the car isn't. That's a tough way to learn that brakes are THE most important piece of equipment on your car on track, or anywhere else for that matter. Oh, I propably should qualify that assessment in this case. The persons COMMON SENSE and ABILITY are of paramount importance too and obviously weren't in attendance.

Just my opinion, but anyone driving as the person says, quote, "Because I was in the ABS so much" is overdriving the car, their abilities, and endangering others. The other comment, "It was the dump mode that made a stupid mistake into a potentially deadly one." is also acting irresoponsible in not taking responsibility for their (flawed) actions (or lack there of) and at least in his mind attempting to shift the blame to the mechanicals of the car, which certainly were not the problem.

Wonder if there was an instructor with the person or if not, why not? Any HPDE I've been to would have the guy off the track and on their way home if discovered driving in such an unsafe manner as was described.

 

ouch dude fing scary stuff

 

completely OT and has no business in the RX-8 Comp area, where's a Mod when you need one

 

i was hoping it would spur a discussion about trackday driving and brake system anomalies (if indeed that was a factor), with an eye towards a possibility that the MS3 may have brake system commonality w/ the RX8.
I guess I could move this to General Automotive, but I wanted to show it to the audience who would be most knowledgeable about the setting/situation in question.

 

Horrible video quality can barely see anything, but that sucks!

 

Why does everyone say it's the brakes?

How do you know he didn't over drive the corner and then panic?

He went too deep.

 

Because that's what the person who posted the video wrote?

 

Hell, how do we know it's even an MS3.

 

That is what we are told.

 

Hey look! That's a FD!


















Oh yeah, poor guy with the MS3.

 

Same thing happened to me . . . fortunately, my brakes did not go into dump mode.

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...ighlight=brake

 

The pedal went to the floor, and he lost all brake power. The driver questions if the brake system went into dump mode. Losing traction on one wheel is one thing, but all four wheels is suspect. If the system thought he was on ice and dumped all brake pressure, then there might be a safety issue.

 

Of course it could be a brake failure, plain and simple. Still, I'd want to find out if the the fellow did his own brakes, that is, did his own bleeding; replaced his own pads, rotors, whatever. There are things that, done wrong, can cause erratic, even disasterous consequences. Bleeding or replacing pads or rotors incorrectly can leave a car with weak, unbalanced, or no braking.