Nationals on concrete?
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Nationals on concrete?
If Nationals ends up on a grippy, wide open concrete site (Lincoln or Blytheville), what do you think the effect is on the RX8 in BS? Does the 350Z become more of a threat? 968?
I think a few classes may shift a little bit, like the current DS (if it stays as is). I also think you'll see more stock class winners on team K, if there are no compound changes.
I think a few classes may shift a little bit, like the current DS (if it stays as is). I also think you'll see more stock class winners on team K, if there are no compound changes.
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+1 on more stock class winners on the K tire - concrete chews Hoosiers for lunch.
Personally I don't think BS would change much -- Isley won in '05 at Forbes and beat Goeke in a 968 and Carter in a 350Z IIRC. However, of all the current BS cars, the Z probably has the most to gain by switching to concrete. Personally, I still feel that a well-prepped Nismo Z driven by a top driver could be a serious threat in the class.
P.S. DS will be the new kingdom of the 135i.
Personally I don't think BS would change much -- Isley won in '05 at Forbes and beat Goeke in a 968 and Carter in a 350Z IIRC. However, of all the current BS cars, the Z probably has the most to gain by switching to concrete. Personally, I still feel that a well-prepped Nismo Z driven by a top driver could be a serious threat in the class.
P.S. DS will be the new kingdom of the 135i.
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If Nationals ends up on a grippy, wide open concrete site (Lincoln or Blytheville), what do you think the effect is on the RX8 in BS? Does the 350Z become more of a threat? 968?
I think a few classes may shift a little bit, like the current DS (if it stays as is). I also think you'll see more stock class winners on team K, if there are no compound changes.
I think a few classes may shift a little bit, like the current DS (if it stays as is). I also think you'll see more stock class winners on team K, if there are no compound changes.
I would think the things that will have the biggest effects on classes will be course length and speeds.... And with our lack of TQ, faster is better.
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Thank you for posting the video, can you offer any insight about the surface condition, grip, tire wear etc.
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I was one of the drivers of the 350z that was there. It was nice to meet you and i'm glad a rx8 was out there We didn't have the maxqdata (thing we put on top of your car and our car) setup right so we got no data at all
Btw that video is just a small portion of what we can actually use out there
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I was told that they brought out a street sweeper and cleaned the area before the event.
The first heat had to make a line just like any event. The grip was typical concrete. It is a different type of concrete than Forbes field. Off line a fine grit was present just like any other surface. There were a couple places that the surface broke up at the edges.
It did not eat up the Hoosiers. The Hoosiers were 30 run used tires. This was my first time to use Hoosiers on a RX8. It was a new car to me and new setup also. (42F-40R) Yes, I did try higher pressures too.
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The course could have been wider or longer but I think the region used most of the cones that they had.
The first heat had to make a line just like any event. The grip was typical concrete. It is a different type of concrete than Forbes field. Off line a fine grit was present just like any other surface. There were a couple places that the surface broke up at the edges.
It did not eat up the Hoosiers. The Hoosiers were 30 run used tires. This was my first time to use Hoosiers on a RX8. It was a new car to me and new setup also. (42F-40R) Yes, I did try higher pressures too.
The course could have been wider or longer but I think the region used most of the cones that they had.
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There is no perfection...well, actually there is, it's called Castle AFB and it's in Atwater, CA.
Regardless, my vote is for Lincoln, hands down. I appreciate all the work the folks in the Southeast have done, but there's no way I can support Blytheville as a solution for autocrossing's premier event.
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From what I've heard from old fart Neb Region guys the Airport site has super bitchin thick concrete that is uber durable, ie it doesn't break up.
YMMV, secondhand story, bla bla.
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Another Old Fart report
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Lincoln Air Park
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As a contrast, I thought I put one up from the recent event at the Lincoln Air Park as well.
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I'm considering taking a trip down there for next weekend's event. Any idea of the planned course size for that one ? (Minnesota autox season is over, with snow flurries in the forecast ).
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Looks like it was a fun course, a couple of beeps even. How'd you feel about that section of the pad?
I'm considering taking a trip down there for next weekend's event. Any idea of the planned course size for that one ? (Minnesota autox season is over, with snow flurries in the forecast ).
I'm considering taking a trip down there for next weekend's event. Any idea of the planned course size for that one ? (Minnesota autox season is over, with snow flurries in the forecast ).
That site will be great with hopefully a little bit more usage (by us autocrossers) next year.
As for the upcoming weekend, the club will not be using that site. They will be at Lincoln Airpark, but not the proposed "Nationals site". It's actually about a block away and much smaller. See our forums regarding the topic.
http://www.nrscca.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1422
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