Special care for RX-8 at track?
#76
The condition of my tires is gonna let someone know how I was driving until I replace the tires. I tore off 1/3 of the first tread block row on my front outside tire, and took some pretty good chunks off the rear too the last time I was at Pacific Raceways.
It's a great way to speed up the tire replacement process!
It's a great way to speed up the tire replacement process!
#77
Originally Posted by dsmdriver
Does anyone know what the blink->solid behavior is? Only code I've ever gotten is the cyl 2 misfire code, but sometimes it blinks for a few seconds and goes solid, sometimes it blinks for minutes then goes solid. Seems like the blinking is trying to tell you something, but I don't know what it is. Maybe "this is occuring right now?"
#78
Originally Posted by Skinless
This is exactly what happened to me at the track yesterday. First session I got a flashing CEL, came into the pits and it went off (I didn't have to kill the car). In the second session I got a flashing CEL, following by a sold CEL. Pumping the brake 20 times to reset the KAM didn't clear it. I took it to a nearby Schucks (Kragen) and they checked and saw a "Cylinder 2 misfire" code, just as other people have reported. They cleared it and it didn't come back. Later in the day I got the flashing CEL and came into the pits to clear it. If it had come on solid I think I would have continued to run and gone to Schucks to clear it at the end of the day. I don't know if I'd go to the dealer with a solid CEL right after coming off the track. The condition of the tires right after coming off of the track would be one indicator of how you were driving.
#79
Originally Posted by CosmosMpower
Hrmm so that could be potentially bad if I take my car to the dealer for a CEL and it says that the car was at 9000 rpms when the CEL came on. If you don't have a reader is there another good way to reset without pulling the battery? I'm still in the process of researching readers.
Oh, and about the DSC at the track... At Summit Point / Shenandoah Circuit there's a banked turn. Last year I forgot to turn off the DSC one time and it kicked in right in the middle of that turn. Scared the crap outa me - I thought a tire had fallen off or something!
Last edited by Paul_in_DC; 08-19-2006 at 09:18 AM.
#80
Originally Posted by CosmosMpower
Hrmm so that could be potentially bad if I take my car to the dealer for a CEL and it says that the car was at 9000 rpms when the CEL came on. If you don't have a reader is there another good way to reset without pulling the battery? I'm still in the process of researching readers.
As for recording speed at time of misfire - the dealer isn't in the business of law enforcement. Just because a misfire happened at an extralegal speed doesn't - in my mind - imply any kind of actual abuse of the eqiupment. Again, my question do the dealer would be "If operating the car above 75mph could cause potential damage to the engine, why didn't Mazda's engineers install a speed limiting device? Did Mazda knowingly sell me a product that could be operated in an unsafe and potentially life-threatening manner?" I assure you they don't want to answer that question, because the legal implications would be horrendous.
Just a word on my background - I'm an engineer involved in engine systems design for large self-propelled mining equipment. I'm quite familiar with the protocols and rationale used to develop and set engine limitations. When we set engine limitations, we have to go on the assumption that the machines will be used at any and all combinations of throttle and RPM within the ranges we allow. To do anything less would open us up to litigation in event of a machine failure. The biggest difference between my company and Mazda is that our end users are a little more educated about their legal rights, and a lot more willing to take matters to court (you would be too if you'd just paid $3mil for a machine). They know that we'd need a lot more proof than an engine that was running under factory set limits when it failed to claim "end user abuse".
Last edited by altiain; 08-19-2006 at 11:29 AM.
#81
All very good points, but I'd definitely like to avoid having to go through the hassle of fighting it in court. Mitsubishi actively searched forums and voided the warranties on all of the Evo's they could find that had been to track days or autocross events. From what you are saying it sounds like the owners have a legal leg to stand on, although I don't know the legal conditions of the warranty, but the process of fighting it would definitely suck. Fortunately I haven't heard of any cases of Mazda doing the same. Still, I'd personally rather not test this.
#82
Originally Posted by Skinless
All very good points, but I'd definitely like to avoid having to go through the hassle of fighting it in court. Mitsubishi actively searched forums and voided the warranties on all of the Evo's they could find that had been to track days or autocross events. From what you are saying it sounds like the owners have a legal leg to stand on, although I don't know the legal conditions of the warranty, but the process of fighting it would definitely suck. Fortunately I haven't heard of any cases of Mazda doing the same. Still, I'd personally rather not test this.
#83
Not sure if it has been covered.
Please take care of your brakes. Let it cool down by running a cool down lap with moderate speed, minimal braking.
Then in the pit, do not put on your hand brake, put the car in gear and shut it.
That will not wrap the disc or leave burn marks. I learnt it the hard way.
Please take care of your brakes. Let it cool down by running a cool down lap with moderate speed, minimal braking.
Then in the pit, do not put on your hand brake, put the car in gear and shut it.
That will not wrap the disc or leave burn marks. I learnt it the hard way.
#84
Originally Posted by takahashi
Not sure if it has been covered.
Please take care of your brakes. Let it cool down by running a cool down lap with moderate speed, minimal braking.
Then in the pit, do not put on your hand brake, put the car in gear and shut it.
That will not wrap the disc or leave burn marks. I learnt it the hard way.
Please take care of your brakes. Let it cool down by running a cool down lap with moderate speed, minimal braking.
Then in the pit, do not put on your hand brake, put the car in gear and shut it.
That will not wrap the disc or leave burn marks. I learnt it the hard way.
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...ht=brake+ducts
Nevertheless, excellent advice, and the last bit about no hand brake, needs to be an absolute ingrained habit!
#85
Yes Spin.
I want to do it so long, but has not get my *** up and do it.
I read some Japanese article about brake cooling and Endless pads. The rotor is say 500C after the session, it will still be above 300C after 5 min sitting down
I want to do it so long, but has not get my *** up and do it.
I read some Japanese article about brake cooling and Endless pads. The rotor is say 500C after the session, it will still be above 300C after 5 min sitting down
#86
500C?? That's 1060F !! Have you measured it at that temp?? My guess is our brakes would be closer to 300-400C in session. Mine were measuring ~280C post session before the brake ducts, ~165C post session with ducts installed. PS I have 2-piece rotors this season, but the temps were only somewhat higher w/OEM rotors.
Last edited by Spin9k; 08-20-2006 at 08:37 AM.
#87
Originally Posted by 4 years to Supercharge
They do paruse the forum in the shadows
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