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Bummer...
Got this response from Travis @ Cobb Tuning re: launch control and no lift shift.
Originally Posted by Travis@COBB
Right now these features are not being considered for future release. However, this is more due to lack of demand and the availability of resources than anything else. However, the AP can still give you the added benefits of enhanced power and engine control without LC or FFS. If you have any specific questions about features and tuning, please do not hesitate to email or PM me.
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I got my new Corksport catback yesterday, installed it this evening after work and went on a long 1/2 hour test drive. It doesn't seem loud at all -- I actually wish it was louder. I think my former MS dual muffler was louder. I must admit, in the upper rpm ranges (6-9K), the Corksport sounds like pure rotary heaven (the MS exhaust never sounded that good)!
Two thumbs up for the Corksport!!!!
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So the admins around this board are clearly lacking in judgment, they're letting just any old bimmer jerk register!
Just wanted to pop in and see if any of you are from the midwest? We have a good diverse STX class here in MN (330, 325, 328, WRX, all at or near national prep) but I haven't seen any RX-8's in action yet. (ok, it's only been two events, I might be impatient) I'm very curious to see how they'll do, I'm convinced they'll dominate.
Anyone near Milwaukee, or planning to hit any of the Milwaukee two day weekends, or the Milwaukee or Lincoln Divisionals?
Just wanted to pop in and see if any of you are from the midwest? We have a good diverse STX class here in MN (330, 325, 328, WRX, all at or near national prep) but I haven't seen any RX-8's in action yet. (ok, it's only been two events, I might be impatient) I'm very curious to see how they'll do, I'm convinced they'll dominate.
Anyone near Milwaukee, or planning to hit any of the Milwaukee two day weekends, or the Milwaukee or Lincoln Divisionals?
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So the admins around this board are clearly lacking in judgment, they're letting just any old bimmer jerk register!
Just wanted to pop in and see if any of you are from the midwest? We have a good diverse STX class here in MN (330, 325, 328, WRX, all at or near national prep) but I haven't seen any RX-8's in action yet. (ok, it's only been two events, I might be impatient) I'm very curious to see how they'll do, I'm convinced they'll dominate.
Anyone near Milwaukee, or planning to hit any of the Milwaukee two day weekends, or the Milwaukee or Lincoln Divisionals?
Just wanted to pop in and see if any of you are from the midwest? We have a good diverse STX class here in MN (330, 325, 328, WRX, all at or near national prep) but I haven't seen any RX-8's in action yet. (ok, it's only been two events, I might be impatient) I'm very curious to see how they'll do, I'm convinced they'll dominate.
Anyone near Milwaukee, or planning to hit any of the Milwaukee two day weekends, or the Milwaukee or Lincoln Divisionals?
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Perhaps I shouldn't ask this, but how much time do you think can be had by going from a BS setup to an STX setup?
If you assume a driver of Karl's skill was in my car, I would think another 1/2 second could have been found on Sunday's course, bringing my car within 1 sec of Karl's, on a BS setup.
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You're showing your age George.
I got my new Corksport catback yesterday, installed it this evening after work and went on a long 1/2 hour test drive. It doesn't seem loud at all -- I actually wish it was louder. I think my former MS dual muffler was louder. I must admit, in the upper rpm ranges (6-9K), the Corksport sounds like pure rotary heaven (the MS exhaust never sounded that good)!
Two thumbs up for the Corksport!!!!
I got my new Corksport catback yesterday, installed it this evening after work and went on a long 1/2 hour test drive. It doesn't seem loud at all -- I actually wish it was louder. I think my former MS dual muffler was louder. I must admit, in the upper rpm ranges (6-9K), the Corksport sounds like pure rotary heaven (the MS exhaust never sounded that good)!
Two thumbs up for the Corksport!!!!
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I decided to spend the extra $$$ on the KWs because I'm treating STX as a learning experience, and I wanted double adjustables to teach/confuse myself. But I think the PSS9 is a reasonable alternative if you want to save a little money and/or don't want to think about setting up a double adjustable.
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I thought about the PSS9s before ordering the KWs. I think the PSS9s are a good dual-purpose (daily driver/weekend autocrosser) setup. There is a thread on them over on the suspension forum. Don't get discouraged by the spring rates reported at the beginning of that thread - I called Bilstein and the rates they have are very reasonable for STX (the numbers are at the end of the thread).
I decided to spend the extra $$$ on the KWs because I'm treating STX as a learning experience, and I wanted double adjustables to teach/confuse myself. But I think the PSS9 is a reasonable alternative if you want to save a little money and/or don't want to think about setting up a double adjustable.
I decided to spend the extra $$$ on the KWs because I'm treating STX as a learning experience, and I wanted double adjustables to teach/confuse myself. But I think the PSS9 is a reasonable alternative if you want to save a little money and/or don't want to think about setting up a double adjustable.
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Only thing I'll add to that is that it appears Bilstein's philosophy with valving is that they have a fairly narrow adjustment range. Full-soft to full-stiff, as I understand it, is not as a dramatic change as it is on many other systems out there. When I was talking to Bilstein about getting a set revalved with aggresive autocross valving, they suggested that I run them stock first to determine if I wanted stiffer spring rates.
So, while they can be revalved to higher spring rates and/or to get agressive low speed damping (and they do that quite well, is my understanding) I'm not sure they are the best choice if you expect to bump the spring rates significantly on stock valving. This is just an impression I got after talking with Bilstein, however. I never specificaly asked them how much spring they could handle before a revalve was necessary.
So, while they can be revalved to higher spring rates and/or to get agressive low speed damping (and they do that quite well, is my understanding) I'm not sure they are the best choice if you expect to bump the spring rates significantly on stock valving. This is just an impression I got after talking with Bilstein, however. I never specificaly asked them how much spring they could handle before a revalve was necessary.
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whats up guys,
im trying to get into stx so im reading up on rules and regulations, aswell as learn from experience from you fellow rotorheads. ive never tracked my 8 so what do you guys recommend i start with to get some basic experience???
i looked up my scca regions schedule and found this:
http://www.nyr-scca.com/solo_ii%20dates.htm
i currently have Tanabe GF210's, MS CAI, and the Mazsport clutch bracket. plus i received my Z1 Star Specs this morning. this is not my intended setup for stx, but just stuff i put on it before wanting to get into stx. so any suggestions, pointers, do's, dont's, insults, advice is appreciated.
thanx in advance.
im trying to get into stx so im reading up on rules and regulations, aswell as learn from experience from you fellow rotorheads. ive never tracked my 8 so what do you guys recommend i start with to get some basic experience???
i looked up my scca regions schedule and found this:
http://www.nyr-scca.com/solo_ii%20dates.htm
i currently have Tanabe GF210's, MS CAI, and the Mazsport clutch bracket. plus i received my Z1 Star Specs this morning. this is not my intended setup for stx, but just stuff i put on it before wanting to get into stx. so any suggestions, pointers, do's, dont's, insults, advice is appreciated.
thanx in advance.
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Your equipment sounds like it's legal for STX (I seriously doubt anyone will care about the clutch pedal bracket locally), but you didn't say what rims you are using - are they wider than 9"? If so, they are not STX legal. Same goes for the tires - they have to be 265s or smaller. But you have good tires in the Star Specs, assuming they are legal.
Since you are just starting the most important thing you can do is get out there and drive. Just go to as many events as you can - even if it means running out of class and taking "time only" or "fun runs." Hook up with fast drivers and ask them to drive your car - it will be an eye-opening experience. Look for other regions that are within an hour or two of driving - find an event in June if you can! Sometimes there are non-SCCA clubs that have autocrosses, like PCA, BMW clubs, etc.
What is your alignment? Get that right, and get a good tire pressure gauge.
If you are asking what your next Mod should be, I'd say shocks. Autocrossers have an affliction for Konis, but I find the Tokicos work fine and are adjustable in the rear while on the car, so that's my reccomendation. Of course coilovers are even better, but they are expensive, at least if you want the good ones.
Good luck and have fun!
Since you are just starting the most important thing you can do is get out there and drive. Just go to as many events as you can - even if it means running out of class and taking "time only" or "fun runs." Hook up with fast drivers and ask them to drive your car - it will be an eye-opening experience. Look for other regions that are within an hour or two of driving - find an event in June if you can! Sometimes there are non-SCCA clubs that have autocrosses, like PCA, BMW clubs, etc.
What is your alignment? Get that right, and get a good tire pressure gauge.
If you are asking what your next Mod should be, I'd say shocks. Autocrossers have an affliction for Konis, but I find the Tokicos work fine and are adjustable in the rear while on the car, so that's my reccomendation. Of course coilovers are even better, but they are expensive, at least if you want the good ones.
Good luck and have fun!
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Since you are just starting the most important thing you can do is get out there and drive. Just go to as many events as you can - even if it means running out of class and taking "time only" or "fun runs." Hook up with fast drivers and ask them to drive your car - it will be an eye-opening experience. Look for other regions that are within an hour or two of driving - find an event in June if you can! Sometimes there are non-SCCA clubs that have autocrosses, like PCA, BMW clubs, etc.
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Your equipment sounds like it's legal for STX (I seriously doubt anyone will care about the clutch pedal bracket locally), but you didn't say what rims you are using - are they wider than 9"? If so, they are not STX legal. Same goes for the tires - they have to be 265s or smaller. But you have good tires in the Star Specs, assuming they are legal.
Since you are just starting the most important thing you can do is get out there and drive. Just go to as many events as you can - even if it means running out of class and taking "time only" or "fun runs." Hook up with fast drivers and ask them to drive your car - it will be an eye-opening experience. Look for other regions that are within an hour or two of driving - find an event in June if you can! Sometimes there are non-SCCA clubs that have autocrosses, like PCA, BMW clubs, etc.
What is your alignment? Get that right, and get a good tire pressure gauge.
If you are asking what your next Mod should be, I'd say shocks. Autocrossers have an affliction for Konis, but I find the Tokicos work fine and are adjustable in the rear while on the car, so that's my reccomendation. Of course coilovers are even better, but they are expensive, at least if you want the good ones.
Good luck and have fun!
Since you are just starting the most important thing you can do is get out there and drive. Just go to as many events as you can - even if it means running out of class and taking "time only" or "fun runs." Hook up with fast drivers and ask them to drive your car - it will be an eye-opening experience. Look for other regions that are within an hour or two of driving - find an event in June if you can! Sometimes there are non-SCCA clubs that have autocrosses, like PCA, BMW clubs, etc.
What is your alignment? Get that right, and get a good tire pressure gauge.
If you are asking what your next Mod should be, I'd say shocks. Autocrossers have an affliction for Konis, but I find the Tokicos work fine and are adjustable in the rear while on the car, so that's my reccomendation. Of course coilovers are even better, but they are expensive, at least if you want the good ones.
Good luck and have fun!
as for shocks i was considering them but id rather get to know my 8 better on the track the way she is before buying anything else. and i would rather save up and go for coilovers too.
+1 The clutch pedal bracket is the only mod that's not allowed, but as George mentioned, as you're a novice, no one should have any issue with it.
+1 Seat time, seat time, seat time! When I first started, I was doing 30+ events a year. Definitely get out there and run as many events as your budget will allow.
+1 Seat time, seat time, seat time! When I first started, I was doing 30+ events a year. Definitely get out there and run as many events as your budget will allow.
and what do you guys recommend for brake pads??
im looking at hawk hps and hp+. i was considering hawk ceramics but ive read from a few track guys that theyre terrible and are done after 1 session.
and would SS brake and clutch lines be legal in stx???
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Do it right the first time and you wont have to do it again.
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Does anyone know if the adjustable Hotchkis MX-5 rear swaybar fits the RX-8? With the ~450F/300R springs from the Fluid/Progress group buy, I doubt I'll want to run super stiff swaybars. I'll probably keep my adjustable Hotchkis MX-5 FSB on the car and would like something adjustable in the rear (that's not crazy stiff).
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Does anyone know if the adjustable Hotchkis MX-5 rear swaybar fits the RX-8? With the ~450F/300R springs from the Fluid/Progress group buy, I doubt I'll want to run super stiff swaybars. I'll probably keep my adjustable Hotchkis MX-5 FSB on the car and would like something adjustable in the rear (that's not crazy stiff).
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I checked their website and it's listed at 21mm (iirc). I have found two other RSB's that are 19mm but both appear to be solid bars. Not sure if a hollow 21mm bar would be stiffer/softer than a solid 19mm bar.
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Any thoughts on the Kumho XS vs. the Dunlop Z1 star specs?
They both seem to be rated very well and are a deal compared to the 'stone RE-11's or AD08's but I'm concerned about the comments on the autox forums about the cold/wet performance of the Kumho's.
In the Pacific NW cold and wet is more of the norm and I am only going to buy 1 tire.
Any thoughts?
They both seem to be rated very well and are a deal compared to the 'stone RE-11's or AD08's but I'm concerned about the comments on the autox forums about the cold/wet performance of the Kumho's.
In the Pacific NW cold and wet is more of the norm and I am only going to buy 1 tire.
Any thoughts?
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I've heard the Kumho's aren't as grippy as many competitive ST tires in the wet and take a while to heat up in the dry. The Dunlops are actually one of the best ST* tires in the wet. They're also competitive in the dry in comparison to the Stones, Yok's, etc. If you look at the Blytheville NT results in STX, the winning car was on the Dunlops.
Based on your two options and your location - Dunlops all the way!
Based on your two options and your location - Dunlops all the way!