there is a coolant hose right by the intake manifold, you just clamp and cut it in there

 

That sounds like the one I used. Its goes from the water pump area through the firewall. It runs between the intake manifold and the washer fluid tank.

 

There is a connecter at the upper hose...

So I use one that from R Magic...

So it does not register until the thermostat opens at 82 degree

 

i used rb ones. so far no problems on this end. hottest day here so far has been 85F and the absoulute hottest the water temps has been 200F when i have been sitting in traffic or moving under 30mph. cools off well with just a little speed down to 170-180. cool ambeint air i'm afraid is just compensation for a inadequete "high performance" cooling system. Im on the track the end of this month. it should be in the 90's then.
I am still surprised on how long the oil takes to warm.
any others?
olddragger

 

I think I am going to do my gauges very similar to yours OD, I just cant justify spending another $400 on a gauge pod. Thats a track weekend right there!

 

roger that man. mine looks even better since i took the last pics. been playing with it some. if you decide to do it this way for sure let me know and i will pm you all the specifics. ill try to get some more pics tonight.
OD

 

heres another shot
have some more will send, the night ones did not turn out well
olddragger

 

another, sorry for the quality i am not a photographer!

olddragger

 

blue here is one from above--sorry for the glare

olddragger

 

so your house has a window with shutters and you have a chair and you windshield is very clean... and you were trying to show what?????

beers

 

I know , I know I was really trying to show the reflection of my 18 days to the next track day banner hanging outside of my house but I missed the shot because I took a swallow of my Bud light and my wife was threatening to hit me with the yard rake, when I pushed the button--but what the heck--got the top part of the gauges in it. Ahhhh--memories.
rotor on
olddragger

 

I'm glad I'm not the only one My next track day is Friday Ya Hoo.

Had 4 full days this year already...............hope I learn to drive soon

 

Now I will make you all feel deprived. Just completed two days at NASA's Homestead TT Group (2nd place finish both days in class). Wife for my 60th birthday is taking me to Bondurant's 3 day advance road racing class on May 15t - 17 and on Saturday the 20th I will be at Moroso for a one day HPDE and Time TRial. Gave up for a while on instructing.

Jay Goldfarb

 

mission accomplished. I with OD, have to wait until May 20-21, roebling Road is calling us. OD, I will have to look at your setup in person, a litle more closely before I pull the trigger on this. Do they block your view at all while driving, they seem kinda high, and like they might be in the line of sight when turning right...

 

OD can always sign up to drive Rockingham. We turn left there (Nascar style)

Jay - sounds like a great gift. Bondurant school would be awesome. One day... Have fun with it and congrats on TT.

 

 

how is visibility with those gauges there?

 

not a problem. when you set in the drivers seat you can still see the passenger side front fender edge, edge of hood etc. i used the 2 5/8 gauges. smaller gauges could be installed in this manner.
olddragger

 

If you get a chance could you post up the steps you did on yours? I'm very interested in doing it to mine, and it would def. help out in that aspect!

 

<-- Jealous

On June 17-18 I'm heading back to VIR to do the full course weekend. 4.2 miles per lap, ye friggin' ha!

 

Good to hear that Jay--you go dude.
Blue I will post the steps this weekend. I will send you a pm with my phone number so if you dont understand anything or run into problems you can give me a call.
So far , so good on the street temp readings guys. Yesterday ambient temp was 88 here, drove about 20miles in 35-45 mph speed limit roads. Coolant temp never reached 200, oil temp was 180. Thats with A/c off --so no fans. I am running 65/35 coolant mixture. 5/20 RP oil.(at this time) changing to 5/30 in approx 2 wks.
olddragger

 

Ok all, i promised to report back from a track day event with my gauges install. here it is.
This past w/e our group were at Roebling road, close to Savannah Ga. The ambiet temp for Saturday was 94F. The ambiet temp for Sunday was 100F. (this was utilizing our on board outside temp readings--and no i didnt take a reading after the car was parked for a while, I moved it and allowed the air to reach it 1st.) I was running Royal Purple 5W/30 oil.
Fast laps. I have 17's for the track allowing me to run the entire track , except for the straight where I go to 5th, in 4th gear--average rpm's are around 7k car never goes below 4.5k. Its a 2.03 mile track-- co club members say I was actually pulling on a super stauker--so you could say I was pushing it a little. Front straight speeds where at 124-125.
Found these things out--
SATURDAY --ambiet temp 94f
1- oil temps are very sensitive to rpm vs speed(no brainer --right), so on a track in which your gearing makes you have to keep her revs high the oil is going to get hot--and fast,
2- Since my gearing was really good for this track my temps were not a problem at all.
on Saturday highest oil temp recorded was 230F---i played in 3nd gear some to see what would happen and temps shot up after 2 turns to 236F--stayed in 4th the next lap and temps stayed steady.
3- Coolant temp NEVER got over 210F--no matter what.

Sunday --ambiet temp 100F
1- Surprising --no change. Oil temps never higher than 230--unless I got VERY agressive and used 3nd gear more--passing traffic on a short straight etc--then it did climb to 240F
BUT it would cool on the long straight to between 220-230F
2 Coolant temp--- never over 210F ---period.

So track temps for me are not a problem. I think Dino oil may heat a little higher than the RP--at least that is what the litature says.
Interesting on the way home temp had fallen to 94 F on the interstate at a steady 4K(18's wheels back on) approx 75-80mph the oil temps were 200F

Thats my story and I am sticking to it!
Temps for me are not yet a problems. But please remember high revs/slow speeds make it much worst.
Oh yea I have mechanical gauges--autometer pro comp liquid filled.
olddragger

 

What's the life expectancy of RP 5W/30 at those temps?

 

so with your results you would say that we have adaqute cooling as it sits from the factory?

 

Life of the oil --I dont know--I change mine after a track w/e(we do about 200--300 miles) Old racers at the track told me not to worry about any temp under 250. Some said under 300!
Blue --I think we have adequete capacity for cooling on the track if the car is driven correctly and not overreved a lot.
For the street--still under investigation. If anything it is an airflow issue-- which may not be fixable and may need a better radiator. If you FI good ahead and get a better radiator.
olddragger