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Old 06-29-2007, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by blipblip
I just sent the national TT director an email looking for clarification. Let's see what he has to say.
I was planning on asking the regional guy when I attended a NASA event comming up in the next month or so but this should be the authority on the matter.
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Old 06-29-2007, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by altiain
I think you guys are misreading the rule:



This rule is written regarding dampers and dampers only. Notice that the only adjustment examples are variations of damping adjustment - compression, high speed rebound, and low speed rebound.

Spring perch height is external to the damper mechanism, and is not normally considered a damper adjustment.

Disclaimer: I don't normally play with NASA, so maybe they interpret things a little differently, but I've never heard of spring perch height included when describing the number of adjustment ranges on a damper.
You may - and probably are - entirely corerct in that i am misinterpreting the rule. I also am just starting to read these rules. I was simply trying to error on the side of caution. I wouldn't want to show up with Tein Flex's thinking I had a +19pt car and just stay in TTD and be asessed the extra 7 points and now be on the very low end of a TTC car.
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Old 06-29-2007, 03:18 PM
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Just a thought, I think they (NASA) could use some good technical writer...
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Old 06-29-2007, 03:27 PM
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I just posed the question on the NASA forums. Lets see what the guys with the experience have to say.

http://www.nasaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=102183#102183
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Old 06-29-2007, 03:36 PM
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This says it all:

http://www.nasaforums.com/viewtopic....light=coilover
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So, let me try this again:


TOYO RA-1/ NITTO NT-01 +5pts
255 width tires +1pts
Coilover suspension +3pts
Springs +2pts
F&R sway bar +2pts

Total: 13pts

I guess then I can go with Hoosiers/V710s and still stays in TTD?
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Yes. Good. Well....good for those with Tein Flex's and equivilant.
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Old 06-29-2007, 03:58 PM
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Cost:

Wheels: $1,076.00
Tires: $648.00
Coilover (Tein Mono Flex): $1,880.00
RB F&R Sway + Links: $388.00
Installation, shipping and installation (estimate): $600.00

Total: $4,592.00

Not as bad as I thought........
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Old 06-29-2007, 04:54 PM
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better swaybars and there's no need for the endlinks

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-wheels-tires-brakes-suspension-55/sway-bars-109096/

edit: maybe not for you if they give points for adjustable bars
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Old 06-30-2007, 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
better swaybars and there's no need for the endlinks

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=109096

edit: maybe not for you if they give points for adjustable bars
i dont think there is a difference in the points asessed for sway bars being adjustable or not.

If people have been snapping end links with the racing beat bars then why would these hold up with no upgraded endlinks? and conversly if these hold up without the upgraded endlinks why wouldn't the setup with racing beat bars hold up?
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The simple answer to why most people break endlinks is that they mess up and install the rear bar upside down. Now go for a ride...Ding..Ding..Ding... You are a winner! ...and now have broken endlinks ... very simple!
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The problem with that answer is that racing beat recommends to upgrade the FRONT endlinks.
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I've not heard of an OEM front link breaking given everything was installed 100% correctly. Perhaps someone has some experience if there's has ever gone bad? Seems most difficulties of this type are cockpit error, not true end link failure. There's nothing wrong with making them more heavy duty, but if the end result is the same...it's just personal choice and a little revenue for RB..
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Originally Posted by Spin9k
The simple answer to why most people break endlinks is that they mess up and install the rear bar upside down. Now go for a ride...Ding..Ding..Ding... You are a winner! ...and now have broken endlinks ... very simple!
Yep...never heard of the stock failing...I'm sportin the RB sways too...
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
better swaybars and there's no need for the endlinks

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=109096

edit: maybe not for you if they give points for adjustable bars
Good specs and good price. Do you think it'll make the car too tail happy for track?
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that would depend on any variety of factors, but my experience is that it's unlikely since both the front & rear bars are adjustable. It gives you quite a bit of balance range.
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
that would depend on any variety of factors, but my experience is that it's unlikely since both the front & rear bars are adjustable. It gives you quite a bit of balance range.
Knew it was going to be hard to quantify. I guess I'll have to do some test 'n' tune
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