Want to try SCCA Solo II this year but the rules said ...
#1
Want to try SCCA Solo II this year but the rules said ...
that I cannot modify the rear sway bar ????
and some of the rules are really confusing (or maybe Im just stupid?)
Here is my list of mods (so far), Can any Brotha here tell me, if I will be able to go any Solo events without changing everything back to stock ...
HKS HiperMax III coilover
Autoexe Front and Rear Sways
Autoexe Adjustable end link (will probably change this back to stock)
Autoexe Front and Rear Strut tower brace
Autoexe Under car Brace
Got some Defi Gauges but the rules said its ok.
Everything else stock.
So ... anybody ? can I go ??? (Yes I SEARCHED!
)
and some of the rules are really confusing (or maybe Im just stupid?)
Here is my list of mods (so far), Can any Brotha here tell me, if I will be able to go any Solo events without changing everything back to stock ...
HKS HiperMax III coilover
Autoexe Front and Rear Sways
Autoexe Adjustable end link (will probably change this back to stock)
Autoexe Front and Rear Strut tower brace
Autoexe Under car Brace
Got some Defi Gauges but the rules said its ok.
Everything else stock.
So ... anybody ? can I go ??? (Yes I SEARCHED!
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#2
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You're not allowed to touch the rear swaybar in stock class, but you're free to change this in STX (read the rules for the Street Touring category).
If you drop the under car brace, you'll fit right into STX. Btw, wheels are limited to 9.0" and tire width to 265's (must also have a treadwear rating of 140 or higher).
If you drop the under car brace, you'll fit right into STX. Btw, wheels are limited to 9.0" and tire width to 265's (must also have a treadwear rating of 140 or higher).
#3
Hey continue reading in the rule book, from what I can tell your car will fit into the Street Touring class STX ( I didn't check all of your mods)or if you want I am sure it would be in the Street Prepared class BSP. There is a class some where in SOLO II that you can run in.
#5
I can't read anything right now because my video card just went dead last night
(red/green lines going across my screen)
Using another computer now, and pdf reader is not installed and I dont want to install it to this comp (my parents computer)
Hmm ... if the rear sway is the only problem to get into stock class, then its probably easier for me to reinstall it. then trying to remove the under car brace to get into the STX class ...
hmm ... what to do what to do ...
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Using another computer now, and pdf reader is not installed and I dont want to install it to this comp (my parents computer)
Hmm ... if the rear sway is the only problem to get into stock class, then its probably easier for me to reinstall it. then trying to remove the under car brace to get into the STX class ...
hmm ... what to do what to do ...
#6
Basically, all of your mods would have to go to be stock class eligible, except the gauges and front bar.
Yes, the letter of the rules doesn't allow the under car brace in STX, but the rest of your stuff is cool. Personally, I'd just go run in STX, as is. I'm not sure the brace really results in an unfair advantage and you probably won't get protested locally unless you start kicking booty. Not the best solution, but for someone just looking to get started, I think it makes sense.
Yes, the letter of the rules doesn't allow the under car brace in STX, but the rest of your stuff is cool. Personally, I'd just go run in STX, as is. I'm not sure the brace really results in an unfair advantage and you probably won't get protested locally unless you start kicking booty. Not the best solution, but for someone just looking to get started, I think it makes sense.
#7
Basically, all of your mods would have to go to be stock class eligible, except the gauges and front bar.
Yes, the letter of the rules doesn't allow the under car brace in STX, but the rest of your stuff is cool. Personally, I'd just go run in STX, as is. I'm not sure the brace really results in an unfair advantage and you probably won't get protested locally unless you start kicking booty. Not the best solution, but for someone just looking to get started, I think it makes sense.
Yes, the letter of the rules doesn't allow the under car brace in STX, but the rest of your stuff is cool. Personally, I'd just go run in STX, as is. I'm not sure the brace really results in an unfair advantage and you probably won't get protested locally unless you start kicking booty. Not the best solution, but for someone just looking to get started, I think it makes sense.
well if thats the case ... I guess I will give STX a shot. Gonna order the "missing" part back and start from there ... grr ... hate to remove the underbrace ...
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hmm, just found the part :
"No underbody panels may be added or substituted."
hmm ... but those are not panels ... hmm ? stock has bars too, just thinner.
Think I will be cool with it ?
I will register anyway and see what happens. Don't care if I run the last place. Just trying to get some experience
"No underbody panels may be added or substituted."
hmm ... but those are not panels ... hmm ? stock has bars too, just thinner.
Think I will be cool with it ?
I will register anyway and see what happens. Don't care if I run the last place. Just trying to get some experience
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There's nothing in STX that permits any bracing except 2-point bracing from one suspension point to another; strut tower braces, lower rear suspension brace, etc. So therefore any additional bracing isn't permitted.
The general rule of thumb about the rules allowances is if it doesn't say you can do it then generally you can't.
The general rule of thumb about the rules allowances is if it doesn't say you can do it then generally you can't.
#10
There's nothing in STX that permits any bracing except 2-point bracing from one suspension point to another; strut tower braces, lower rear suspension brace, etc. So therefore any additional bracing isn't permitted.
The general rule of thumb about the rules allowances is if it doesn't say you can do it then generally you can't.
The general rule of thumb about the rules allowances is if it doesn't say you can do it then generally you can't.
if I have to remove them, might as well go back bone stock or just go all out mod the **** and go whatever class that allows more mods.
#12
it did reinforced the body by significant margin. something that you can feel, especially when you're pushing around the corners.
I wonder if it would be different if I go Mazdaspeed's brace. (talking about the Mazdaspeed Japan one)
Im thinking ... thinking ...
I wonder if it would be different if I go Mazdaspeed's brace. (talking about the Mazdaspeed Japan one)
Im thinking ... thinking ...
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i'd point out that plenty of STX RX8s get around corners just fine without extra bracing. the RX8 chassis is pretty stiff as it is.
honestly, i wouldn't worry too much about it. it's going to be a while until you're competitive anyway, so just go, run in your proper class, and focus on learning and getting faster.
#18
Do you mean Street Modified ?
Just finished reading the whole Solo Guide, it seems that I might fit into Street Modified without all the work (to take things off)
I might sound like Im lazy but my Rx-8 is already down at the moment (adjustable endlink is not working, waiting for stock end links to come tomorrow)
as soon as Im done with the 8 I need to work on the 7 right away, something I really need to fix it up ASAP before it breaks.
Just finished reading the whole Solo Guide, it seems that I might fit into Street Modified without all the work (to take things off)
no, the mazdaspeed brace would not be legal either unless it's as described above: attachment between just two points.
i'd point out that plenty of STX RX8s get around corners just fine without extra bracing. the RX8 chassis is pretty stiff as it is.
honestly, i wouldn't worry too much about it. it's going to be a while until you're competitive anyway, so just go, run in your proper class, and focus on learning and getting faster.
i'd point out that plenty of STX RX8s get around corners just fine without extra bracing. the RX8 chassis is pretty stiff as it is.
honestly, i wouldn't worry too much about it. it's going to be a while until you're competitive anyway, so just go, run in your proper class, and focus on learning and getting faster.
as soon as Im done with the 8 I need to work on the 7 right away, something I really need to fix it up ASAP before it breaks.
#21
Heres the thing, unless you have been to the autocross before, you are going to be in the novice class, which really means your just learning anyway. You wont be racing for the points series, and really class wont matter. Still find the set of rules that match what you want to do mod wise if you want to eventually compete in a given class. Otherwise just do whatever mods you want, and then just go there to race your car, no matter what class they stick you in.
So do you want to compete in autox? Or do you just want to do what ever you want and have fun when you go out there.
You dont mention the air intake in your posts, but your pictures show it, which would also be illegal for stock class. You can only change the filter, not the housing for stock class. I dont know if you have aftermarket wheels, but for stock they must be the same, 18x8 and within a 1/4 inch of the stock offset of +50
So do you want to compete in autox? Or do you just want to do what ever you want and have fun when you go out there.
You dont mention the air intake in your posts, but your pictures show it, which would also be illegal for stock class. You can only change the filter, not the housing for stock class. I dont know if you have aftermarket wheels, but for stock they must be the same, 18x8 and within a 1/4 inch of the stock offset of +50
#22
Heres the thing, unless you have been to the autocross before, you are going to be in the novice class, which really means your just learning anyway. You wont be racing for the points series, and really class wont matter. Still find the set of rules that match what you want to do mod wise if you want to eventually compete in a given class. Otherwise just do whatever mods you want, and then just go there to race your car, no matter what class they stick you in.
So do you want to compete in autox? Or do you just want to do what ever you want and have fun when you go out there.
You dont mention the air intake in your posts, but your pictures show it, which would also be illegal for stock class. You can only change the filter, not the housing for stock class. I dont know if you have aftermarket wheels, but for stock they must be the same, 18x8 and within a 1/4 inch of the stock offset of +50
So do you want to compete in autox? Or do you just want to do what ever you want and have fun when you go out there.
You dont mention the air intake in your posts, but your pictures show it, which would also be illegal for stock class. You can only change the filter, not the housing for stock class. I dont know if you have aftermarket wheels, but for stock they must be the same, 18x8 and within a 1/4 inch of the stock offset of +50
You are right, I have to go into the Novice class 10 times before anything else.
I dont have Intakes, I went back to stock almost a year ago.
Also the aftermarket Wheels, its the exact same size/offset +50 as Originals, because its from Mazdaspeed Japan (Its Mazdaspeed Version II wheels)
I guess I will go anyway and ask the guys there, they should be able to tell me what class I should be in. if I really have to remove the autoexe stuff, Im gonna sell it and get something else.
Last edited by nycgps; 04-22-2010 at 11:16 AM.
#23
Just go and enjoy your car the way it is. It'll be a blast.
In all likelihood, you're going to get thwomped for a solid 2-3 years minimum before you learn enough to have a shot at being competitive. If you fall in love with the sport, you'll know exactly what to do with the car at that time.
The important thing is to get out there, go play, and have fun.
In all likelihood, you're going to get thwomped for a solid 2-3 years minimum before you learn enough to have a shot at being competitive. If you fall in love with the sport, you'll know exactly what to do with the car at that time.
The important thing is to get out there, go play, and have fun.
#24
Just go and enjoy your car the way it is. It'll be a blast.
In all likelihood, you're going to get thwomped for a solid 2-3 years minimum before you learn enough to have a shot at being competitive. If you fall in love with the sport, you'll know exactly what to do with the car at that time.
The important thing is to get out there, go play, and have fun.
In all likelihood, you're going to get thwomped for a solid 2-3 years minimum before you learn enough to have a shot at being competitive. If you fall in love with the sport, you'll know exactly what to do with the car at that time.
The important thing is to get out there, go play, and have fun.
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