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Old 01-11-2004 | 01:08 PM
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Who makes the best wax for shine?

Who makes the best wax for show shine.....cost not an issue.
Old 01-12-2004 | 11:11 AM
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Don't even bother looking at other posts, I guess. Try Zaino
Old 01-12-2004 | 09:39 PM
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I have tried Zaino and I do not think it is near the best....but thanks for all the help.....
Old 01-13-2004 | 03:35 AM
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Well, if you don't think it's near the best then you must have a pretty good idea of what the best is.
If you've found something better than Zaino, then use it as I and many others have tried a good number of products and found Zaino to give the best results, so you're obviously onto something special with the waxes you think are better.
Old 01-13-2004 | 02:16 PM
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zaino...nuff said
Old 01-13-2004 | 02:22 PM
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I waxed my 8 for the first time last week with meguiars gold class and it looked good but not GREAT
Old 01-13-2004 | 03:57 PM
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i have just done the same, except I did a dawn wash, clay bar, then applied Meguiars Gold Class (liquid), it's a polymer base just like ZAINO!, just yesterday used the detailing spray...looks just as good as the $85 Zaino kit, except i think all in all i paid around $20 for all the Meguiars stuff....

since it's been raining this weekend i'll wash with #2 Meguiars and reapply Detail Spray....
Old 01-13-2004 | 06:25 PM
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Been using Mother's California Gold Original Formula Paste. Lots of canoba wax (read "protection") and a nice shine, though that's less important to me than protection. Good exercise too!
Old 01-13-2004 | 06:33 PM
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I spent Sunday Afternoon going through the Zaino Drill, Wash, Clay Bar, Wash, Zaino #2, Zaino #6, Zaino #5, then Zaino #6! Alot of work but it is beautiful! I have not driven since due to rain and fog but I am duly impressed with the outcome. I will go for another Zaino #2 this weekend and that should cover it for awhile. Also if there is something better out there please share!
Old 01-13-2004 | 06:42 PM
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Try that $1300 can of wax that has been talked about in a few threads here. It should be the ticket for discriminating users like you :p

For the rest of us 8 owners, Zaino seems to be good enough :p
Old 01-13-2004 | 07:39 PM
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$1300.........right!!!!!!!!!
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Old 01-13-2004 | 09:50 PM
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BTW, remember that Zaino layers nicely, so if ya like the look and want it deeper and wetter, just keep putting it on until you get what you want.
Old 01-13-2004 | 10:02 PM
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Meguiars Gold Class. Latest technology in car wax at a quater of the price as Zaino.
Old 01-14-2004 | 02:27 AM
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Originally posted by Doug Green
I have tried Zaino and I do not think it is near the best....but thanks for all the help.....
So tell us what are the best you've seen?
Old 01-14-2004 | 08:28 PM
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I would say crystal guard for best shine. it's not a wax but a sealant with glass flourine. it's pricey but the shine you get on a black car is really nice. better than zaino shine imho. I can't say bout durability though or it's protection ability. P21s concour wax is the best wax i've used so far. $15 for the s100 (same wax just different name) at any local harley davidson store. Zaino does give a nice gloss but sometimes looks a bit plasticky on a dark colored car.
Old 01-14-2004 | 08:47 PM
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Originally posted by blivets
Been using Mother's California Gold Original Formula Paste. Lots of canoba wax (read "protection") and a nice shine, though that's less important to me than protection. Good exercise too!
I LOVE mothers products.

I use the carnuba paste wax (in the big tin) without cleaners. I only clay specific areas like the rockers an just behind the wheels. Its a very rich, quality wax.

Maybe I would consider Zaino if my car wasn't silver.
Old 01-14-2004 | 09:02 PM
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The word protection has been mentioned several times. Question comparing Zaino, carnuba, ect, does either one offer better 'physical' protection to help with the very small paint chips that the 8 is prone to?

Every road trip I take, I get a new one
Old 01-14-2004 | 09:54 PM
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Originally posted by Doug Green
I have tried Zaino and I do not think it is near the best....but thanks for all the help.....
OK, if Zaino is "near the best" then name something better. Zaino is the best I've ever used, but I am open to better products. Until I convinced otherwise, Zaino rules! And it's really not expensive, I can get 3 coats from 2 ounces, and I've read about one member that can get 2 coats from 1 ounce.
Old 01-14-2004 | 10:46 PM
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Carnuba or Carnauba Wax

In 1935, the S.C. Johnson Wax Company sent an expedition to South America to survey for new Carnuba wax sources. They used an Sikorsky S-38 names the "Spirit of Carnuba". This replica was constructed for a recent re-enactment of that historic flight.

Carnauba is really pronounced (carnowba) contrary to popular belief not (carnewba).

Carnauba Wax is obtained from the leaves of a palm tree known as Copernica Cerifera, which is also referred to as the "Tree of Life". This slow-growing Carnauba palm flourishes in the northeastern regions of Brazil, reaching an average height of 25-35 feet. It proliferates along river banks, streams and damp lowlands.
The tree exudes a wax through the petioles of its fan-shaped leaves, preventing dehydration from the equatorial climate.
The cutting of the leaves and sprouts takes place during the dry months of September through February. Workers use knives on long poles to trim the leaves from mature trees. The cut leaves are sun-dried and mechanically thrashed to remove the crude wax. This crude wax, in its powder form, is transported from the countryside and sold to shippers for export.
With a maximum cutting of twenty leaves per year from a tree, the average yield of wax for each tree is about one kilo per cutting. The majority of tree harvesting takes place in the Brazilian States of Ceara and Piaui. The color and quality of the wax are governed by the age of the leaves and care used in processing of this hard, brittle,

CARNAUBA WAX
S & P
Number Melting Point
Open Cap. Tube USP Class II Flash Point
Minimum Acid
Value Saponification
Value Paraffinic
Hydrocarbons Volatile
Matter Insoluble
Impurities Color
8 82.5 Deg. C Min. 299 Deg. C 4-10 78-88 2% Max. Nil Nil Brown
63 83.0 Deg. C Min. 310 Deg. C 2-6 78-88 2% Max. Nil Nil Yellow
142 82.5 Deg. C Min. 299 Deg. C 4-10 78-88 2% Max. 1.00% 0.50% Brown
200 82.5 Deg. C Min. 299 Deg. C 4-10 78-88 2% Max. Nil Nil Tan
63 NF (National Formulary) 80-86 Deg. C Residue on Ignition 0.25% Max. 2-7 78-95 Heavy Metals
20ug Per G Max Nil Nil Yellow

Ok...what do I like!

Atlantique™
Atlantique Glaze is based on a custom formula developed for Ralph Lauren’s 1937 Bugatti Type 57SC Atlantique. As with many Zymöl prepared cars in other years, the Bugatti won "Best of Show" at the Pebble Beach Concours d’Elegance in 1990. The protective ingredients in Atlantique are clove, coconut, cinnamon bark and sunflower oils. Atlantique contains 60 percent Brazilian No. 1 White Carnauba by volume.

Contains White Carnauba Wax, Montan Oil, Cinnamon Bark Oil, Sunflower Oil, Banana Oil, Oil of Clove, Propolis (derived from Bees), Cetyl Esters, Cetyl Cocoamide (derived from coconut oil).


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Old 01-14-2004 | 11:12 PM
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Doug......interesting

I'm also a die hard Natural Wax guy...
Old 01-14-2004 | 11:29 PM
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Gyro.....I love your covered bridge picture.......Vermont.....New Hampshire......Maine?
Old 01-14-2004 | 11:35 PM
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Thanks

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Old 01-14-2004 | 11:37 PM
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Wax

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Old 01-15-2004 | 07:28 AM
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Never tried Zanio, but have certianly heard great things about it. But for me, I use this:

CARNAUBA WAX...THE HIGHEST GRADE OF CARNAUBA WAX YOU CAN BUY
In the photo you'll see our Carnauba Wax resting on a nest of carnauba in its natural state (shown in chip form.) It's about as hard as a brick and needs petroleum distillates, mineral spirits, and other ingredients to make it soft enough to apply to your paint. You've seen other waxes advertised as "100% carnauba wax," but unless you are buying it in brick or chip form, it's just plain false advertising. Truth is, the maximum amount of carnauba that you can put in a paste wax is about 30%. We've put the maximum amount of the highest grade carnauba in Griot's Garage Carnauba Wax. You'll notice the ability to hide swirl marks and enhance paint color more than any other carnauba wax available. The high quality and content of our Carnauba Wax offers three to five months of protection. The pleasant scent enhances your waxing experience. Note, this is not a "cleaner wax." Use Paint Cleaning Clay or Fine Hand Polish before applying Carnauba Wax for correct surface cleaning.

Info here
Old 01-15-2004 | 09:35 AM
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Griot's Garage

I have heard great things about products from Griots......I must try it.

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