Hey Gang,
I have only been apart of this forum for less than a year but hopefully I can ask for some help finding a wreckless RX8 driver...

My neighbor-was hit by a drunk driver during the summer of 2004 in July...This drunk was driving a silver Ford Truck F250 4x4...The drunk driver was racing a Silver RX8 on the Hamilton Mill Parkway in the Hamilton Mill Neighbor in Dacula Georgia....The RX8 and the F250 were playing cat and mouse while racing for more than a mile around curves thru an area with kids and people walking and jogging on the sidewalk...Witnesses stated that it was an RX8 and either silver or gray (titanium) based the GCP reports...(Gwinnett County Plice Reports)
The race started at the intersection of Hamilton Mill Parkway and Braselton Highway and ended a block down from the golf course club house...
The RX8 and the drunk driver was headed toward Winder or Lawrenceville or away from I-85...

The drunk hit my neighbor and almost killed him....His wife and kids were injured but not as bad as the Dad who was driving...The driver of the RX8 slowed down and watched the guys SUV catch on fire which was immediately and then instead of pulling over to help-the RX8 driver stomped on the gas and floored it out of there....heading away from the scene...To me and others-this was an act of cowardly behavior...The GCP department would like to have this driver confess and so would I...
As a proud owner of an 8.....with integrity...I am trying to help my neighbor find this person who by now must have confessed to someone...
So local 8 owners of North Georgia....who do you know that owns or owned a Silver or Gray RX8 during the summer of 2004 and WHO LIVES IN THE BUFORD, FLOWERY BRANCH, DACULA, BRASELTON, LAWRENCEVILL AREA....?
More importantly...do anyone of you happen to know anything about this accident...?
If so...contact the Gwinnett County Police Dept and refer to this accident...They are actively looking for this run away driver.....and so am I....
I AM NOT ACCUSING ANY OF YOU....LET ME MAKE THAT PERFECTLY CLEAR.....BUT THERE ARE NOT THAT MANY OF US 8 OWNERS IN NORTH EAST GEORGIA....MAYBE 10 OF US TOTAL.....SO LETS ASK AROUND AND LOCATE THIS DRIVER...
As a guy in his early 30's with small children....could this driver have been a teen driver of the owner...I cant beleive that an adult would take off with out any regard to life...
So please help....any info is appreciated...
Thanks!
Rudy-

 

How many posts do you need to make on this topic? The 3 threads you have started in the past week are in addition to the thread or 2 that were here in the past year. Enough already. I am tired of the witch hunt you are sponsoring. In your opinion, every silver or grey RX8 owner is a suspect. I know several. Does that mean someone should turn them in on suspicion of street racing? Terrible about the story but it doesn't put every RX8 owner to the task of accounting for their whereabouts. Now let the police do their job since you state they have strong leads and will make an arrest soon.

 

Nabil,
To answer your question-How many posts do I need to make on this topic? As many as it takes to catch the RX8 driver who was driving that day....
The last time I checked this is a free country and this forum does not belong to you nor do you own...so your comment of "Enough Already: comes across as irratated due to my plee for help to find a careless coward who obvious owns or was driving a Silver RX8 during that summer of 2004...
I also own a Silver Rx8 and live in HMILL>..and I am not afraid of the truth nor to I become irratated by plees for help...I am simply asking for those of us in this part of North Georgia to combine efforts and help pinpoint this guy....

So my advice to you is to not read this thead if it bothers you and let those of us who want to find that chicken ^&*()% driver who cowardly sped away....
Ifyou have friends in this area that drive a Silver 8 then ask them if they know who that person was or is....Why not spend your energy helping to find this coward rather than right to me telling me that my comments are enough...
I have read comments on this site about a ton of not so important things like times racing at the ATlanta Speedway and driving really fast up the mtns and how cool the RX8 car is....YOu know this is not a priority when it comes to finding some chicken that ran from an accident...What if the victim was you???? I bet your tune would be different...
Your comments to let the Police handle it is like saying they do not need our help......!
Of course-they need our help...The Police always can use civilians help....Dont you read the paper...? what world do you live in???
Civilians and good citizans help their fellow man out all of the time...and I am trying to help my neighbor....Brother-GOD says in the BIBLE to LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR as you would your self...and I am trying to take up my Brothers burden-which is my neighbor which was almost KILLED>>>>>! He showed me his arm which was almost cut completely off and his leg which was broke-he cant hardly walk even this day...and so on....

This effected me...If you are so cold harded that my plees offend you then shame on you...

Am not sure about you-but that really bothered me...enough to deal with comments from people like you...so again if you are bothered by me asking around....tough....
Again, I am not trying to come across like a jerk....but if you need to talk to me after this personally....let me know the time and date.....I have no issues with confrontations...
My College Football Coach @ Appalachian State taught me as a young man with a bad temper to take things one at a time but to deal with confrontation head on...
Rudy

 

Rudy

Let me make this perfectly clear! I drive a Silver RX8. I have driven in the general area you are discussing. I have seen other RX8s in the area and I have never seen or have I ever participated in any kind of street racing.

If you even begin to accuse me I can assure you that I will have an attorney all over your *** so fast it will make your head spin. I may be wrong but I think you are probably the person that wanted to meet for lunch under the pretense of being a buddy and a fellow RX8 owner. You are a potentially dangerous person to innocent people. I also recall you discussing having lunch with Nabil. You are playing detective and fishing amongst a group of people in a forum that prides itself on the importance of NO STREET RACING! You are lurking in the wrong forum.

Your accusations are the type of “Guilty until proven innocent”. That is a very scary proposition. On occasion I have enjoyed very much driving the back roads and enjoying the ride with my sunroof back and windows down on HWY 124 and now your have made me feel like I’m being watched. That really pisses me off. How can I drive the area now without feeling like I’m a suspect.

I would be the first to report an activity such as street racing. I have a cell phone and I know how to dial 911 and I have used it in the past.

 

i hate to say it, but if its been a year, and they haven't caught the guy, then they aren't going to. at this point, they aren't even looking into it. the investigation may still be open, but no man power is being put into it.

and asking about a silver or ti grey rx8 is like asking about a silver civic. i have no sales data to back this up because mazda doesn't collect such sales data, but based off of rx8s that i see around, those are the 2 most popular colors.

and you say there can't be more than 10 in the area, i disagree. in fact, i would bet there are many more than 10 in the area. also, ever considered the fact that the car wasn't even from the area?

if you didn't get the license plate number, and there wasn't any damage to the car, then there's no way to even prove that the car was even there. and unless they were specifically going out to cause an accident, then i doubt they were going around bragging to all their friends about it.

sorry that this tradgedy happened to your friend, but unless this guy feels guilty for himself and turns himself in, he will never be caught and convicted.

best thing you can do, is support your friend, and help him recover and move on.

and to cut off any "maybe it was you" type accusations before they begin, i drive a black 04 rx8 which i purchased in march of 2005, and is my first rx8.

 

Grow up! Nabil is one on the nicest people you could ever meet. You trying to make a confrontation with him is rediculus. He has every right to state his case after you make such accusations/assumptions and for you to want to call someone out back... Jeeze! Do me a favor and please do not participate in any of our events.

 

Sorry that this happened. It is tragic. I did interpete this entry a little differant than some. I understand the emotions involved in this thread and I can see both sides. I think it is perception. My perception is that the author of this thread was just asking for help in trying to find the responsible person that caused such a tragic event. i think he thought that the clan of the 8's are a tight mature responsible bunch(and he is right, we are) that may have some info he/the police could use. And that was all. It may have happened sometime ago but the closure hasn't occured. He was/is just trying to help. It is true there are not that many 8's around but It may not have even been a local car but someone only driving through, who knows?
Rudy i am really sorry this has happened. That family will be on my church's prayer list (doesnt matter that it happened some monthes ago), I think you are only trying to help and are not accuseing anyone. I know Nabil and Silver-- they are some of the best people you could ever want to know. They are entitled to their opinions but i know that they respect others views also. In my opinion you post as many threads as you feel you need. I know this forum to me has not only been a source of great information but it also has been a tool in forming a great botherhood that is real. If I can help in anyway feel free to send me a Pm. I wish I had some info you are seeking but I dont. I wish you luck in finding these cowards.
Everyone else, flame me if you want but that is what I have to say.
olddragger

 

OD... I'd never flame you. You are a wise gentleman!

The problem I have here is that according to Rudy,s post, I fall in this as a direct suspect. I live in Buford, I occasionally travel this area and I drive a Silver RX8. So I will definately be defensive. Any of you would be too. Even you OD. If someone said the accident happend in Macon it was a red RX8 and it happened on a road you occasionaly drive. I'm confident you would feel the need to defend yourself.

 

I am not looking for confrontations with you or anyone. Thanks to my friends who vouch for my character and intentions. They do know me. I stated what i found to be irritating and it wasn't about helping someone else. It is about casting suspicion on innocent people. I live in country where we are innocent first and then proven guilty. My country believes in freedom of speech but not in freedom of inciting others. So, that is my point. Please don't beat me up. That won't fly well in church.

 

haha! that's great!

 

Rudy, what color is your RX8 and where do you live?

 

OK, I've done a little research and I think I know why you are so intent on finding this person.

1. You drive a Silver RX8
2. You live in his neighborhood
3. This guy stopped you and thought you were the driver of the RX8
4. You were new to the neighborhood
5. You hoped the RX8 beat the truck... ".hehehehe...I hope the truck was left in his dust"
6. There is a $25,000 reward on any information leading to the confirmation.
7. The driver of the truck memorized the tag of the RX8 (OK, so what is it?) If he memorized it then why are we discussing this now? This should be a closed case.
8. Why did you refer to the guy that got hit originally as "Crazy Guy"

RE: CRAZY GUY IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD
https://www.rx8club.com/se-rx-8-forum-30/crazy-guy-my-neighborhood-74497/

Personally, I think you are afraid the Gwinnett County Police have you down as their number one suspect and you are trying to cover your ***. In your post, you didn't sound so much like you were concerned about your neighbor.

I think that anyone who is reading this thread should do a search and find out more about Rudy's post. I smell a fish!

 

trying to help your neighbor (whom you so loving refer to as "some crazy guy")? sounds more like you're trying to make a quick $25k. looks like your moral high horse is nothing more than a shetland pony.

 

Rudy, when the guy that had been hit pulled you over in his neighborhood and asked you if you were involved, here is what you said:

"I told him that I was new to this area and had just bought my 8...but he kept on asking if I knew anyone with an 8 and I pled the 5th....It seemed to bother him..."

Why would you even think of saying "I pled the 5th"?

 

sounds like the curse of the silver's has struck again!! Glad I drive a 135rwhp winning blue? No chance in hell I will ever drag race unless it is against an old lady driving a self propelled shopping cart or one of those little "rascals".
My foot ball coach (coach Klein that is) told me that Gatorade not only quenches your thirst better, it tastes better too.

 

This forum is full of good people. Some know more than I do. I am a trusting soul (to an extent) but If I find that someone misused my trust then forgiveness can be had but I never forget. I hope Rudy is on the up and up. Just trying to help someone. If he is not then he will have to live with that. If he is just trying to use/manipulate us then I hope everyone of the hairs in his armpits turned into fish hooks. The injured family will still be on the church prayer list irreguardless. The people who left the scene are still cowards. Doesnt matter what kind of car they drove.
I guess I have spent too many years in emergency rooms and seen and experienced the suffering that good people go through because of someone else's irresponsibility.
All of us other 8 driver's, There is nothing at all to feel bad about. No one can control other people's perceptions. They will think what they want to think. Just be yourself, be happy, be honest and sooner or later they will realize they where wrong. Remember no one can MAKE you feel anything. It ain't easy.
Nabil why is it you always crack me up dude! I'm still laughing!
Take care guys.
Olddragger

 

Hello...
Let me address (1) SilverEights comments all of them....and then (2) Nabil and then (3) Glyphon and then (4)Whenson 417....and last (5) Old Dragger..

(1) SilverEight-I appreciate ALL of your posts and comments...but why did you come across so defensive???
You were threatening to sue me so fast it would make my head swim and made comments that you were really "P'd Off" and so and so on....You then wanted to know where I lived and tried to turn the table on me...Whats up with that?
You also made a comment on why I stated I pled the 5th....well if you read this post carefully before you make hasty accusations which I do NOT appreciate one bit....what I stating is that I pled the 5th when the guy who stopped me in my OWN neighbor started asking me about if I knew other people who drove RX8's..............! I DID NOT SAY TO HIM that I am pleeing the 5th however I told the FORUM that I pled the 5th....MEANING that I did not tell this guy-which at that time I did not from ADAM anyones names who also drove an 8....thats all...so SilverEight you owe me an apology as a Gentleman....

I already know your website which you have posted many times on this forum...and I even know your real name-which is on your website...but I did not tell a perfect stranger that info....

BUT I go back to why are YOU so DEFENSIVE.....You have made statements that you drive thru this area and you have a Silver 8 like mine so if you have nothing to hide then why so defensive???????????

I do not know you nor do you know me....but I have stated from the time I joined this which was a while ago-WHERE I LIVE and WHAT I DRIVE and so on...
So let me RECAP to make sure that anyone who reads this post understands how I came about this topic...SilverEight-you did a nice job recapping earlier but allow me to recap:
*I simply made a comment when a middle aged man stopped me while I was driving on the HMILL parkway...I called him a CRAZY GUY because at that time-that is what he seemed like to me...
*I posted what had happened because I wanted to simply share what had happened....you guys always seem to share things so I did as well...
*TO CLARIFY....once I STARTED TO INVESTIGATE the FACTS based on what this CRAZY GUY had told me....THe CRAZY GUY was NOT so crazy but LEGIT!!!!! How was I to know this until I started looking into what he had told me...
*So when I found out the facts which ANY OF YOU CAN DO AS WELL...I then felt convicted to try and help this guy who like me has a wife and family....I felt bad for this guy....He had the crap beat out of him due to a drunk driver RACING SOMEONE in a RX8...and like the police report states NOT ME...the RX8 took off and did not stick around to see if this poor lived or died....
*Does this type of person not bother any of you...? well it did me...and also it bothered me also because I drive an 8 ...
*Once I found out the facts- I called him back cause I had his bus card...I told him that I checked his story and it all was true just like he said...He also apologized for stopping me but stated that he will always be looking for a Silver Mazda 8 and when he saw me...he had to stop me...I can understand his postition...and if you put yourself in his shoes...so can you...
*I have become friends with this guy and have talked to him a couple of times since then...He is a really nice guy...so I am trying to help him...thats it...
*WOW....dont you guys ever help anyone???whats the big deal???
Lastly- you said for people to search my posts because I something smelt like a fish meaning that my integrity was questionable....

*******WHAT ABOUT YOU??? I THINK THE READERS SHOULD QUESTION YOU...YOU WERE THE ONE THAT BLEW HIS LID AND STARTED THREATS OF LAWSUITS AND ASKING ME WHERE I LIVED and TELLING NOT TO JOIN YOU GUYS IN ANY ACTIVITIES...
I am not sure about what others think...but you come across as WHY too defensive.....regarding this incident....I am not accusing you of anything but if you do have a Silver Eight and owned one during the Summer of 2004 and live in this area.....maybe someone was driving your car back then....COuld this be a POSSIBILITY????? Do you have a teenager that could have been driving that car ....YOu already stated that you live near the area, drive a Silver 8 and have come across defensive as if you have something to hide????
(which by the way...I did NOT live in this area NOR did I own my 8 back then-I drove a BMW5 series...as I stated-I am new to the area and this is my first brand new *8)

2)Nabil...sorry if I came across as a jerk or a bully....that is not my style...Its just that you blasted me with negative comments all of sudden...which to me was not called for...
3) Glyphon-you come across as a really young man....maybe in your 20's...and your comments about my sincerity is not warranted...I did state the this guy was a crazy guy BEFORE I checked out the facts and before I got to know him thru a couple of follow up calls...and I was kidding about the $25k and buying a new 8 with the money....but you do not my financial status and lets say-I found the chicken coward driver and turned him or her in all on my own-which would never happen...I would not accept the money....I did not need it...
One piece of free advice...before you start to pull the splinter in my eye go pull the log from yours...Shockey Monkey?????? If you need any help finding a more masculine icon let me know...I have some...
4)Whenson 417- The comments about your coach was not appreciated...I get what you doing and so does everybody else.....your comments say more about you than it does me...How are old are you....20 what? Did you even play college football??? I bet not....
5) Old Dragger- YOU HIT THE NAIL on the HEAD.....You read my posts correctly and basically I am just asking some close knit guys whom I really do not know for some help...After reviewing SilverEights website and pictures of who you all are...I thought that you guys would know who this driver is or was...I never pointed a finger at anyone...
I appreciate your postive comments and interpretation of what I was simply trying to accomplish....If anyone bashes you for truthfully and calmly making comments...I think it states more about them than it does us...Again, I still not sure why SilverEight became so defensive...no one accused him of anything....!
Futher more....Someone accused me of being the crazy guy and I did not go off and become outraged....I just said nope not be but I couold understand where they were coming from...I did not start making threats of lawsuits and asking where he lived and so on...

As SilverEight-found out...I do drive a Silver 8 and I live in Hamilton Mill Subdivision off of the Patrick Road area....
As SilverEight also stated in a very pre-mature manner....He stated that I was not WELCOME to join you guys in any North Georgia Events...I must say....that was hurtful....so is this the sensus from all of you in the North Georgia area or just SilverEight...? I guess I trying to find friends or foes...

Rudy....

 

Hello...
Let me address (1) SilverEights comments all of them....and then (2) Nabil and then (3) Glyphon and then (4)Whenson 417....and last (5) Old Dragger..

(1) SilverEight-I appreciate ALL of your posts and comments...but why did you come across so defensive???
You were threatening to sue me so fast it would make my head swim and made comments that you were really "P'd Off" and so and so on....You then wanted to know where I lived and tried to turn the table on me...Whats up with that?
You also made a comment on why I stated I pled the 5th....well if you read this post carefully before you make hasty accusations which I do NOT appreciate one bit....what I stating is that I pled the 5th when the guy who stopped me in my OWN neighbor started asking me about if I knew other people who drove RX8's..............! I DID NOT SAY TO HIM that I am pleeing the 5th however I told the FORUM that I pled the 5th....MEANING that I did not tell this guy-which at that time I did not from ADAM anyones names who also drove an 8....thats all...so SilverEight you owe me an apology as a Gentleman....

I already know your website which you have posted many times on this forum...and I even know your real name-which is on your website...but I did not tell a perfect stranger that info....

BUT I go back to why are YOU so DEFENSIVE.....You have made statements that you drive thru this area and you have a Silver 8 like mine so if you have nothing to hide then why so defensive???????????

I do not know you nor do you know me....but I have stated from the time I joined this which was a while ago-WHERE I LIVE and WHAT I DRIVE and so on...
So let me RECAP to make sure that anyone who reads this post understands how I came about this topic...SilverEight-you did a nice job recapping earlier but allow me to recap:
*I simply made a comment when a middle aged man stopped me while I was driving on the HMILL parkway...I called him a CRAZY GUY because at that time-that is what he seemed like to me...
*I posted what had happened because I wanted to simply share what had happened....you guys always seem to share things so I did as well...
*TO CLARIFY....once I STARTED TO INVESTIGATE the FACTS based on what this CRAZY GUY had told me....THe CRAZY GUY was NOT so crazy but LEGIT!!!!! How was I to know this until I started looking into what he had told me...
*So when I found out the facts which ANY OF YOU CAN DO AS WELL...I then felt convicted to try and help this guy who like me has a wife and family....I felt bad for this guy....He had the crap beat out of him due to a drunk driver RACING SOMEONE in a RX8...and like the police report states NOT ME...the RX8 took off and did not stick around to see if this poor lived or died....
*Does this type of person not bother any of you...? well it did me...and also it bothered me also because I drive an 8 ...
*Once I found out the facts- I called him back cause I had his bus card...I told him that I checked his story and it all was true just like he said...He also apologized for stopping me but stated that he will always be looking for a Silver Mazda 8 and when he saw me...he had to stop me...I can understand his postition...and if you put yourself in his shoes...so can you...
*I have become friends with this guy and have talked to him a couple of times since then...He is a really nice guy...so I am trying to help him...thats it...
*WOW....dont you guys ever help anyone???whats the big deal???
Lastly- you said for people to search my posts because I something smelt like a fish meaning that my integrity was questionable....

*******WHAT ABOUT YOU??? I THINK THE READERS SHOULD QUESTION YOU...YOU WERE THE ONE THAT BLEW HIS LID AND STARTED THREATS OF LAWSUITS AND ASKING ME WHERE I LIVED and TELLING NOT TO JOIN YOU GUYS IN ANY ACTIVITIES...
I am not sure about what others think...but you come across as WHY too defensive.....regarding this incident....I am not accusing you of anything but if you do have a Silver Eight and owned one during the Summer of 2004 and live in this area.....maybe someone was driving your car back then....COuld this be a POSSIBILITY????? Do you have a teenager that could have been driving that car ....YOu already stated that you live near the area, drive a Silver 8 and have come across defensive as if you have something to hide????
(which by the way...I did NOT live in this area NOR did I own my 8 back then-I drove a BMW5 series...as I stated-I am new to the area and this is my first brand new *8)

2)Nabil...sorry if I came across as a jerk or a bully....that is not my style...Its just that you blasted me with negative comments all of sudden...which to me was not called for...
3) Glyphon-you come across as a really young man....maybe in your 20's...and your comments about my sincerity is not warranted...I did state the this guy was a crazy guy BEFORE I checked out the facts and before I got to know him thru a couple of follow up calls...and I was kidding about the $25k and buying a new 8 with the money....but you do not my financial status and lets say-I found the chicken coward driver and turned him or her in all on my own-which would never happen...I would not accept the money....I did not need it...
One piece of free advice...before you start to pull the splinter in my eye go pull the log from yours...Shockey Monkey?????? If you need any help finding a more masculine icon let me know...I have some...
4)Whenson 417- The comments about your coach was not appreciated...I get what you doing and so does everybody else.....your comments say more about you than it does me...How are old are you....20 what? Did you even play college football??? I bet not....
5) Old Dragger- YOU HIT THE NAIL on the HEAD.....You read my posts correctly and basically I am just asking some close knit guys whom I really do not know for some help...After reviewing SilverEights website and pictures of who you all are...I thought that you guys would know who this driver is or was...I never pointed a finger at anyone...
I appreciate your postive comments and interpretation of what I was simply trying to accomplish....If anyone bashes you for truthfully and calmly making comments...I think it states more about them than it does us...Again, I still not sure why SilverEight became so defensive...no one accused him of anything....!
Futher more....Someone accused me of being the crazy guy and I did not go off and become outraged....I just said nope not be but I couold understand where they were coming from...I did not start making threats of lawsuits and asking where he lived and so on...

As SilverEight-found out...I do drive a Silver 8 and I live in Hamilton Mill Subdivision off of the Patrick Road area....
As SilverEight also stated in a very pre-mature manner....He stated that I was not WELCOME to join you guys in any North Georgia Events...I must say....that was hurtful....so is this the sensus from all of you in the North Georgia area or just SilverEight...? I guess I trying to find friends or foes...

Rudy....

 

Rudy, as was posted in the other thread that I moved, this is not the place for bounty hunters or personal vendettas. That is the job of the police, or witnesses to the accident. Please do not post this any more.