Barber Motorsports Park - PBOC - Nov 18-19
12-01-2006, 05:25 PM
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apexinghonda, two amazing little power houses were a blast to watch... yours and a little red screamer. Sorry, I did not get a pic of you. I knew more people would come to this party! 
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12-01-2006, 05:28 PM
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Funny the turbo CRX was trackside with I think a mechanical on the same lap mine went to lunch. Nothing like feeling the engine "stutter" right when it was to come onto vtec at 6K. I never got to talk to the red CRX. I don't know which car was uglier, his or mine. My car does not get its picture taken too often because it is not "photogenic". New paint weighs more and doesn't make you faster. Thanks guys.
When the Alabama Region SCCA puts on its PDX at Barber next year, bring your cars!! We will have plenty of track time and open passing in the advance group.
When the Alabama Region SCCA puts on its PDX at Barber next year, bring your cars!! We will have plenty of track time and open passing in the advance group.
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12-01-2006, 06:56 PM
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apexinghonda---thanks for the post--i enjoyed reading it. Sounds like you really like your car. I have always thought it was just that type of car that helped todays teenagers understand what I felt when I worked on my 55chevy when I was much younger.
We rx8 folks certainly understand momentum and lack of torque. It's a wonder we get up the hills we run.
Slip angles with the V710"s lol who has ever heard of such! (They can get ya all excited cant they) Try some crawl space dust coated toyo RA's at 128 mph(or so) braking into 10A at Road Atlanta which madates a valium tablet as big as a biscuit by the time you reach(if you reach!) turn 12. Damn things ride like a wagon wheel but actually they are pretty good tires. In my case it is the driver making the tires bad.
Again enjoyed your post--dont be a stranger.
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We rx8 folks certainly understand momentum and lack of torque. It's a wonder we get up the hills we run.
Slip angles with the V710"s lol who has ever heard of such! (They can get ya all excited cant they) Try some crawl space dust coated toyo RA's at 128 mph(or so) braking into 10A at Road Atlanta which madates a valium tablet as big as a biscuit by the time you reach(if you reach!) turn 12. Damn things ride like a wagon wheel but actually they are pretty good tires. In my case it is the driver making the tires bad.
Again enjoyed your post--dont be a stranger.
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12-01-2006, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by TorqueAholic
Another Delusional one... Here is the all time track AI track record: 1:37:83
Look it up.
You're soooo full of it it's not even funny... Is that like your engine block that saves you 500 lbs??
Credibility dude, that's all you have on a forum. Looks like you just lost what little you had.
Look it up.
You're soooo full of it it's not even funny... Is that like your engine block that saves you 500 lbs??
Credibility dude, that's all you have on a forum. Looks like you just lost what little you had.
Oh wait, that's right....I did!!!
Did you notice who owns that lap record??? Did I say anything about an official lap???
I guess the man lied to me, since it wasn't during the race.
[In Adam Sandler falsetto]Guess someone's credibility meter is brooooken![/OFF]
Hell, I'll concede the lousy one second and tell you you're still, what?
15 seconds off the pace!
But I'm sure you will stay consistent and make excuses for why you're slower than car a,b,c and use these same handicaps as the basis for why you're so awesome cause you're faster than car x,y,z.
Please, allow me a chance to get back some credibility...
Come on out to the SCCA event at Barber.
I'll front a deposit to cover the value of your car.
And then I'll wager you $500 that Robert can beat your best lap by at least 2 seconds in your own car.
Want some, Mr. Credibility?
I don't offer to show you myself, cause I wouldn't want to be accused of comparing d!cks. Also, you have no idea what kind of driver I am (so it wouldn't be fair to ask you to wager against me), but you seem convinced that Robert can't drive, so it's a known.
As for my engine, do you pretend to know something about me or my car? Let's hear it, Mr. Passive Agressive.
Disclaimer for all you panty waisted "let's all get along" types...
Guys who toot their own horn at these sites are tools who need to be shown the error of their ways. I can have a heated discussion without hating. Don't be so thin skinned. The thoughts should be evaluated based on their merit, the method of delivery is for entertainment purposes only and not to be taken seriously.
So let's have a wager and "get it on".
FYI, my engine block weighs 98 lbs....so what?
12-01-2006, 09:22 PM
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[QUOTE=Phlash]On a different side note.....vette6autoX and RealTorque, do either of you guys ever instruct/run with the NASA events? We have a real stong AI group and we have a lot of fun......first event of 07 is CMP in Feb.......
I am a member of NASA and was going to VIR last Febuary, but decided not to go because of the time of the year.I am clad I didn't.It snowed and rained the weekend. I am working on a deal now to try to purchase a Panoz GTS to do some SCCA and PBOC events. Might try out NASA if the timing is right. All my track buds say they enjoy running with them.
I am a member of NASA and was going to VIR last Febuary, but decided not to go because of the time of the year.I am clad I didn't.It snowed and rained the weekend. I am working on a deal now to try to purchase a Panoz GTS to do some SCCA and PBOC events. Might try out NASA if the timing is right. All my track buds say they enjoy running with them.
12-01-2006, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by olddragger
apexinghonda---thanks for the post--i enjoyed reading it. Sounds like you really like your car. I have always thought it was just that type of car that helped todays teenagers understand what I felt when I worked on my 55chevy when I was much younger.
We rx8 folks certainly understand momentum and lack of torque. It's a wonder we get up the hills we run.
Slip angles with the V710"s lol who has ever heard of such! (They can get ya all excited cant they) Try some crawl space dust coated toyo RA's at 128 mph(or so) braking into 10A at Road Atlanta which madates a valium tablet as big as a biscuit by the time you reach(if you reach!) turn 12. Damn things ride like a wagon wheel but actually they are pretty good tires. In my case it is the driver making the tires bad.
Again enjoyed your post--dont be a stranger.
olddragger
We rx8 folks certainly understand momentum and lack of torque. It's a wonder we get up the hills we run.
Slip angles with the V710"s lol who has ever heard of such! (They can get ya all excited cant they) Try some crawl space dust coated toyo RA's at 128 mph(or so) braking into 10A at Road Atlanta which madates a valium tablet as big as a biscuit by the time you reach(if you reach!) turn 12. Damn things ride like a wagon wheel but actually they are pretty good tires. In my case it is the driver making the tires bad.
Again enjoyed your post--dont be a stranger.
olddragger
12-01-2006, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by apexinghonda
. Yeah I enjoy my car. I sold a mkiv twin turbo six speed supra (I kept mine stock boost) and bought the CRX because it was more fun, faster, and a lot cheaper on the expendables. Road Atlanta, my favorite track.
12-01-2006, 09:41 PM
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Silvereight, I was instructing at Road Atlanta last year and I remember a group of RX8s there. Were you in that group? David
12-01-2006, 09:50 PM
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The Panoz events are better on Sunday. They only have two run groups,A & B. you run every 30 minutes, lots of driving. Road Atlanta is my favorite track.There is nothing like doing 165 down the back straight and standing on the brakes and hope she stops. Then if thats doesn't get the juices flowing, they toss turn 12 at you. David
12-01-2006, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by vette6autox
The Panoz events are better on Sunday. They only have two run groups,A & B. you run every 30 minutes, lots of driving. Road Atlanta is my favorite track.There is nothing like doing 165 down the back straight and standing on the brakes and hope she stops. Then if thats doesn't get the juices flowing, they toss turn 12 at you. David
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There are three areas I plan to work on when I go back. Turn 4 through the Esses, entering turn 6 with more speed and trail braking and more speed in turn 12,
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The Esses are where I notice a lot of students get nervous. What sets your car up well for the Esses actually starts at T3. If you take that turn correctly it makes the transition going to the Esses beter.T6 you should not need to trail brake. The car should be braking in a straight line ,and at your turn in you need to be rolling into the gas. As your car starts to settle,you should be able to go to the floor and brake straight line for T7. T12 is and always will be a butt tightener.The seat in my car looks like a volcano from that turn.
12-01-2006, 11:08 PM
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[QUOTE=TorqueAholic]
As far as brakes are concerned: One set of Performance Friction Z Rated pads found on ebay + machining one set of rotors: about 70 bucks. Out-braking Porsches, BMW's, CRX's, Corvettes, Race Prepared Firebirds, etc all weekend: Priceless!
Let me get this straight. Am I reading this correctly. That your car can out brake these cars above? Or are you trying to say that YOU in YOUR CAR out-broke the other drivers in their cars. Bcause if you are saying your car can out brake those cars quoted above,well I would have to say
As far as brakes are concerned: One set of Performance Friction Z Rated pads found on ebay + machining one set of rotors: about 70 bucks. Out-braking Porsches, BMW's, CRX's, Corvettes, Race Prepared Firebirds, etc all weekend: Priceless!
Let me get this straight. Am I reading this correctly. That your car can out brake these cars above? Or are you trying to say that YOU in YOUR CAR out-broke the other drivers in their cars. Bcause if you are saying your car can out brake those cars quoted above,well I would have to say
12-02-2006, 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by vette6autox
The Esses are where I notice a lot of students get nervous. What sets your car up well for the Esses actually starts at T3. If you take that turn correctly it makes the transition going to the Esses beter.T6 you should not need to trail brake. The car should be braking in a straight line ,and at your turn in you need to be rolling into the gas. As your car starts to settle,you should be able to go to the floor and brake straight line for T7. T12 is and always will be a butt tightener.The seat in my car looks like a volcano from that turn.
Yep, a little maintenance throttle there. No trail brake.
12-02-2006, 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by apexinghonda
Funny the turbo CRX was trackside with I think a mechanical on the same lap mine went to lunch. Nothing like feeling the engine "stutter" right when it was to come onto vtec at 6K. I never got to talk to the red CRX. I don't know which car was uglier, his or mine. My car does not get its picture taken too often because it is not "photogenic". New paint weighs more and doesn't make you faster. Thanks guys.
When the Alabama Region SCCA puts on its PDX at Barber next year, bring your cars!! We will have plenty of track time and open passing in the advance group.
When the Alabama Region SCCA puts on its PDX at Barber next year, bring your cars!! We will have plenty of track time and open passing in the advance group.
12-02-2006, 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by vette6autox
Barry, I dare you to go say that on the Supra forums. Those guys will be coming after your ****. David
Already have. They didn't ban me.
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Originally Posted by apexinghonda
When the Alabama Region SCCA puts on its PDX at Barber next year, bring your cars!! We will have plenty of track time and open passing in the advance group.
Not to get away from the arguing, but is their a date on this?? I know the race date, but I haven't heard anything about having a PDX next year?? If so I guess I'm going to have to go away from my plan of not running a DE next year so I could get a dedicated track car and not kill mine FD.
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Yes,the date is June 30 and July 1 of 07. I will be the event chair and chief instructor at that event that Alabama Region of the SCCA for our PDX. David Leonard
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12-02-2006, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by vette6autox
T12 is and always will be a butt tightener.The seat in my car looks like a volcano from that turn.
As far as my favorite track - I am up in the air on this one. RA is great, but so are Barber and Sebring. Barber for being so technical and Sebring for their bumps. I never thought I would like bumps on track, but Sebring makes it interesting, especially turn 17 under the tunnel, that one is also a big butt tightener! Yet, I have not been to VIR yet, but I will correct this next weekend!
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Originally Posted by apexinghonda
When the Alabama Region SCCA puts on its PDX at Barber next year, bring your cars!! We will have plenty of track time and open passing in the advance group.
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REALTorque -
Hey - I know you where my instructor (and you where the right instructor for me!) and I agree with a few points you made on this forum, but TA2 is TA2 and we all like him for who he is. But I do agree with you that he needs to not be so agressive at track. But, could we make this a friendly wager - something like the looser has to wear a dress on track the next day?
I know exactly who you where talking about that ran into the GT3 Cup at Barber, since I was there. Now he is band from all HPDE and club racing events in the Southeast.
I talked to the mechanics from the GT3 Cup after it happened, and they where expecting the guy to come up and say he was sorry for what had happened. Instead he came up with his video camera and try to state how he was in control and it was the track and the GT3 fault for him running into them. Funny - because the GT3 had run off track a minute before the accident, sitting on the grass on a wall, and the corner workers had thrown the yellow flag. Everyone else slowed down for him, and the BMW ran around everyone that had slowed down for the yellow, then got out of control - went off track and hit the parked GT3 Cup. Thus, he could brag that he passed everyone, yet he still crashed.
And I think you said you where going back to Sebring this winter - if so - have a great time!
Hey - I know you where my instructor (and you where the right instructor for me!) and I agree with a few points you made on this forum, but TA2 is TA2 and we all like him for who he is. But I do agree with you that he needs to not be so agressive at track. But, could we make this a friendly wager - something like the looser has to wear a dress on track the next day?
I know exactly who you where talking about that ran into the GT3 Cup at Barber, since I was there. Now he is band from all HPDE and club racing events in the Southeast.
I talked to the mechanics from the GT3 Cup after it happened, and they where expecting the guy to come up and say he was sorry for what had happened. Instead he came up with his video camera and try to state how he was in control and it was the track and the GT3 fault for him running into them. Funny - because the GT3 had run off track a minute before the accident, sitting on the grass on a wall, and the corner workers had thrown the yellow flag. Everyone else slowed down for him, and the BMW ran around everyone that had slowed down for the yellow, then got out of control - went off track and hit the parked GT3 Cup. Thus, he could brag that he passed everyone, yet he still crashed.
And I think you said you where going back to Sebring this winter - if so - have a great time!
