NASA March 18/19 Road Atlanta
03-22-2006, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by L8APEX
Photos by: Wes DuenkelLots of Pictures
Some of you guys must have had a cloak on your car and run in stealth mode. I may have missed a few images. If someone finds some I missed, please post them and make sure you give Wess credit for his hard work. I know and respect what he has to do to get these fine images.
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03-22-2006, 08:13 AM
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03-22-2006, 08:46 AM
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hey Blue--I got the brushed aluminum to match the interior trim. I also got the "large size". You may want to order a cover for it as it does get cold in the winter and hot if left parked in the summer. I sure love the position the **** gives.
STF-- only 15 yrs? lol So --when where you NOT on the track.
Don--yes some of it is definitly a "feel" a seat of the pants thing--but a lot of it is aquired knowledge. It's funny but I always drive faster when I am trying to catch someone. Observing the guys in hp 1--on Sunday--man all of you where doing well. Coming out of turn 12 you really looked as if you where at home. You will find out later and your speeds progress the way you drive the track will change a little. This comes with seat time and nothing else. Take my advance --dont get lost into modding your car. The car is very capable as it is. the only recommendation from me is better shocks and of course track pads. As you progress then look at R compunds etc.
This past event I learned a lot. Like the observed results of slow in fast out in certain corners. Like the value of short shifting in certain spots. Like a lap with no braking--that was really cool and smooth and i dont think i was much slower at all. like going from a true mometum car to a car that had a little more grunt coming out of the corner--totally changed the way i did 10a/10b, turn 6 and the esses. I also realized now that we are obtaining faster track speeds I am burning up the brakes much faster and for my next road atlanta event I will have some function front brake ducts.
Dang I could talk all day on this.
I hope I can make Roebling--it depends.
TA dont worry about being in 3 man. They would not put you there if they didnt think you where ready. It is sort of like when you are invited to join a new club---go in quite--listen a lot--have fun- meet new people--dont show them all you got and before you know it --you will feel right at home.
I may explore going to 3 if anyone thinks I am capable. It is a lot of fun being on the track with my homeys
olddragger
STF-- only 15 yrs? lol So --when where you NOT on the track.
Don--yes some of it is definitly a "feel" a seat of the pants thing--but a lot of it is aquired knowledge. It's funny but I always drive faster when I am trying to catch someone. Observing the guys in hp 1--on Sunday--man all of you where doing well. Coming out of turn 12 you really looked as if you where at home. You will find out later and your speeds progress the way you drive the track will change a little. This comes with seat time and nothing else. Take my advance --dont get lost into modding your car. The car is very capable as it is. the only recommendation from me is better shocks and of course track pads. As you progress then look at R compunds etc.
This past event I learned a lot. Like the observed results of slow in fast out in certain corners. Like the value of short shifting in certain spots. Like a lap with no braking--that was really cool and smooth and i dont think i was much slower at all. like going from a true mometum car to a car that had a little more grunt coming out of the corner--totally changed the way i did 10a/10b, turn 6 and the esses. I also realized now that we are obtaining faster track speeds I am burning up the brakes much faster and for my next road atlanta event I will have some function front brake ducts.
Dang I could talk all day on this.
I hope I can make Roebling--it depends.
TA dont worry about being in 3 man. They would not put you there if they didnt think you where ready. It is sort of like when you are invited to join a new club---go in quite--listen a lot--have fun- meet new people--dont show them all you got and before you know it --you will feel right at home.
I may explore going to 3 if anyone thinks I am capable. It is a lot of fun being on the track with my homeys
olddragger
03-22-2006, 10:41 AM
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Here is a cut and paste job. "Robert" is our own OD
Lost my ***** at Road Atlanta last weekend..
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In every track guys life there comes a time for equipment dysfunction - while it can be age dependent it can, and does, happen at anytime. In the scheme of things mine was pretty minor last weekend - I lost the ball bearings out of the rails for my Corbeau seat - it literally made for a rocking time at the track. Compared to Toby breaking the crank in his Mercedes, Tim breaking a windshield and having the left front hub fail in his ZO6 and Tony kissing the concrete in Turn 12 in his 1998 Trans Am - life was pretty good. Toby helped me pull the seat and look for my loose ***** in the interior - the amount of assistance people give and receive at the track always impresses me - it takes a true friend to dive in and help you find your *****. I whittled a stick to jam in the seat rail but it did not survive the g's (or possibly it was the load) at turn 5 - so I wobbled but did not fall down.
All told the NASA event at Road Atlanta was a great time. The prep of getting the alternate tow vehicle wired, the '99 Fixed Roof Coupe (FRC) prepped and the vehicles loaded was getting routine since it is the third weekend in a row. Getting there on Friday was brutal for Jake and I though - due to school we did not leave till 1600. There was an accident on I-20 that held us up for most of an hour, the mapquest directions through Athens for Road Atlanta are - uh, inaccurate - and when we got to the paddock at Road Atlanta I thought the carnival was in town. The paddock was packed with all shapes and sizes at 1930 on a Friday evening. We eventually found a laydown spot and got registered. About 2200 we managed to get into the Local Cracker Barrel for late supper/early breakfast.
On Saturday I lucked out with Todd in an '02 ZO6 as one of my students (met him at VIR in Dec) and my other student was also a fun guy in an RX8. I was able to get them teched and myself out on the track for the first session in HPDE4/Time Trials group. The first session was an eye opener since I was not that familiar with Road Atlanta, open passing everywhere and I was shaking down a relatively new car for me. I did not block anybody, passed a few cars, got passed by more and learned the track. Luckily, I came up to speed - so to speak - fairly quickly. I went out with my students, rode with Tim for a session, took my students out in my car and had more fun then can possibly be legal. Riding with Tim is something he ought to charge money for - the running commentary is worth it. He showed me some "aggressive line" options and how to pick people off in a safe manner. Todd as a hard charging combat veteran had no issues with the track, traffic or riding with me. I showed him how close you can come to the edge in a Vette in Turn 1 (all part of my instructional plan, honest) and he was pretty nonchalant about it - we rode around talking about HALO jumping, field living, how most folks never had a really bad day "at work" plus worked in a little bit about turn ins, exit points, braking points, shift points and run off options. Robert, my RX8 student, who is a Purple Heart Marine veteran thought my whole purpose in life was to kill him on the track. It seemed he had reservations about riding with me - I guess my talk about me pumping the brakes four times at every brake point was not abnormal plus when he heard a rattle and saw me leaning towards him it was just my loose seat rail did not help much. I messed up once and got a little loose in Turn 5 and Robert was bracing for impact. When I never lifted and accelerated out of it I thought he had forgotten how to breathe. After that I never saw anyone wedge themselves so tight in the passenger side of a Corvette. Tim has some video of the event - I am sure you can hear him laughing at me on the tape. Robert actually did relax a little so I could show him some details he could use in the RX8 to get around the track better. During the day I was able to chase down and pass several ZO6s, a Phoenix prepped ZO6, at least one Turbo 911, Cobras, Mustangs, Camaros, BMWs, Porsches and had a ZR1 Corvette dive into the pits so my 120,000 mile beater would not pass him. I did notice a few go by me at times also. I was able to meet up with several folks from the forums I had not met yet and it always a good time to put a person with the words I have read. Jake worked the Turn 10 flag station all weekend, and according to him, he had a blast. One more work weekend and he has a free event coming. Jake will probably run the track in August with NASA. I know he enjoyed Saturday night.....Playmates, pubs, halter tops what is not to like? . Jody and Tony both got mugs and hugs for their Time Trial efforts.
Sunday was more of the same with me showing the track to several folks and taking Tim for a ride in the FRC (turnabout is fair play, right?). Tim and I had a great session - other than getting loose and a little sideways in Turn 7 we had a good time chasing folks down. He, once again, provided me some great tips and insights from his experience at Road Atlanta. The lunch time touring lap was bogus - they wanted $20 bucks for people to run touring laps. Jake, as a corner worker, decided it was not worth $20 bucks to him for "slow laps".
I was on unknown heat cycle Hoosiers and Kumhos (I even ran them mixed on Sunday), had unknown pads mostly wore down from CMP last weekend, and suspension I have yet to touch. Considering the unknowns and the fact I was at the wheel the car ran extremely well. I had to back off almost every session at some point to keep the oil temp at 285 or less but otherwise the car performed flawlessly. The Suburban makes a pretty good low buck substitute for a RV - beats the tent at CMP last weekend. The F-250 is a better tow vehicle though. The facilities at Road Atlanta are also very nice for the paddock campers.
The track was great, the event was fun, it was mostly safe - the guys (also volunteers - bless them) pushing the cars out on the track from the pit could use a bit more training, the weather was great and the people were fun to hang with. I will be doing Roebling, Rockingham and Road Atlanta (again) this year with NASA so that should speak for itself. Looking forward to Roebling in April with Seat-Time.
Be safe out there.
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Lost my ***** at Road Atlanta last weekend..
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In every track guys life there comes a time for equipment dysfunction - while it can be age dependent it can, and does, happen at anytime. In the scheme of things mine was pretty minor last weekend - I lost the ball bearings out of the rails for my Corbeau seat - it literally made for a rocking time at the track. Compared to Toby breaking the crank in his Mercedes, Tim breaking a windshield and having the left front hub fail in his ZO6 and Tony kissing the concrete in Turn 12 in his 1998 Trans Am - life was pretty good. Toby helped me pull the seat and look for my loose ***** in the interior - the amount of assistance people give and receive at the track always impresses me - it takes a true friend to dive in and help you find your *****. I whittled a stick to jam in the seat rail but it did not survive the g's (or possibly it was the load) at turn 5 - so I wobbled but did not fall down.
All told the NASA event at Road Atlanta was a great time. The prep of getting the alternate tow vehicle wired, the '99 Fixed Roof Coupe (FRC) prepped and the vehicles loaded was getting routine since it is the third weekend in a row. Getting there on Friday was brutal for Jake and I though - due to school we did not leave till 1600. There was an accident on I-20 that held us up for most of an hour, the mapquest directions through Athens for Road Atlanta are - uh, inaccurate - and when we got to the paddock at Road Atlanta I thought the carnival was in town. The paddock was packed with all shapes and sizes at 1930 on a Friday evening. We eventually found a laydown spot and got registered. About 2200 we managed to get into the Local Cracker Barrel for late supper/early breakfast.
On Saturday I lucked out with Todd in an '02 ZO6 as one of my students (met him at VIR in Dec) and my other student was also a fun guy in an RX8. I was able to get them teched and myself out on the track for the first session in HPDE4/Time Trials group. The first session was an eye opener since I was not that familiar with Road Atlanta, open passing everywhere and I was shaking down a relatively new car for me. I did not block anybody, passed a few cars, got passed by more and learned the track. Luckily, I came up to speed - so to speak - fairly quickly. I went out with my students, rode with Tim for a session, took my students out in my car and had more fun then can possibly be legal. Riding with Tim is something he ought to charge money for - the running commentary is worth it. He showed me some "aggressive line" options and how to pick people off in a safe manner. Todd as a hard charging combat veteran had no issues with the track, traffic or riding with me. I showed him how close you can come to the edge in a Vette in Turn 1 (all part of my instructional plan, honest) and he was pretty nonchalant about it - we rode around talking about HALO jumping, field living, how most folks never had a really bad day "at work" plus worked in a little bit about turn ins, exit points, braking points, shift points and run off options. Robert, my RX8 student, who is a Purple Heart Marine veteran thought my whole purpose in life was to kill him on the track. It seemed he had reservations about riding with me - I guess my talk about me pumping the brakes four times at every brake point was not abnormal plus when he heard a rattle and saw me leaning towards him it was just my loose seat rail did not help much. I messed up once and got a little loose in Turn 5 and Robert was bracing for impact. When I never lifted and accelerated out of it I thought he had forgotten how to breathe. After that I never saw anyone wedge themselves so tight in the passenger side of a Corvette. Tim has some video of the event - I am sure you can hear him laughing at me on the tape. Robert actually did relax a little so I could show him some details he could use in the RX8 to get around the track better. During the day I was able to chase down and pass several ZO6s, a Phoenix prepped ZO6, at least one Turbo 911, Cobras, Mustangs, Camaros, BMWs, Porsches and had a ZR1 Corvette dive into the pits so my 120,000 mile beater would not pass him. I did notice a few go by me at times also. I was able to meet up with several folks from the forums I had not met yet and it always a good time to put a person with the words I have read. Jake worked the Turn 10 flag station all weekend, and according to him, he had a blast. One more work weekend and he has a free event coming. Jake will probably run the track in August with NASA. I know he enjoyed Saturday night.....Playmates, pubs, halter tops what is not to like? . Jody and Tony both got mugs and hugs for their Time Trial efforts.
Sunday was more of the same with me showing the track to several folks and taking Tim for a ride in the FRC (turnabout is fair play, right?). Tim and I had a great session - other than getting loose and a little sideways in Turn 7 we had a good time chasing folks down. He, once again, provided me some great tips and insights from his experience at Road Atlanta. The lunch time touring lap was bogus - they wanted $20 bucks for people to run touring laps. Jake, as a corner worker, decided it was not worth $20 bucks to him for "slow laps".
I was on unknown heat cycle Hoosiers and Kumhos (I even ran them mixed on Sunday), had unknown pads mostly wore down from CMP last weekend, and suspension I have yet to touch. Considering the unknowns and the fact I was at the wheel the car ran extremely well. I had to back off almost every session at some point to keep the oil temp at 285 or less but otherwise the car performed flawlessly. The Suburban makes a pretty good low buck substitute for a RV - beats the tent at CMP last weekend. The F-250 is a better tow vehicle though. The facilities at Road Atlanta are also very nice for the paddock campers.
The track was great, the event was fun, it was mostly safe - the guys (also volunteers - bless them) pushing the cars out on the track from the pit could use a bit more training, the weather was great and the people were fun to hang with. I will be doing Roebling, Rockingham and Road Atlanta (again) this year with NASA so that should speak for itself. Looking forward to Roebling in April with Seat-Time.
Be safe out there.
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03-22-2006, 11:30 AM
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TA, where did you pull that from... it's funny as hell! Way to go OD, no wonder you were so quiet after coming back in from that treck! I thought you looked a little pale. LOL
03-22-2006, 12:50 PM
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03-22-2006, 03:24 PM
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Jeff was great. Scared the heck out of me! His vette with 120k miles on it would go--love that torque. It was a REAL treat learning about the unsecured seat and the weak brakes as we are pulling out on the track! He did give me really good advice and direction and was fun at the same time. taught me a lot about 10a/b. Told me one time "Catch that Mustang"! (I did)--Dont let him past --you will leave him in the braking zone!(I did)
I HIGHLY recommend him as an instructor and I will ask for him again if I have the chance. Besides he is great corner weight for turn 7. And if you think he is fast you ought to see his 16 yr old son driving.
OD
I HIGHLY recommend him as an instructor and I will ask for him again if I have the chance. Besides he is great corner weight for turn 7. And if you think he is fast you ought to see his 16 yr old son driving.
OD
03-22-2006, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverEIGHT
TA, where did you pull that from... it's funny as hell! Way to go OD, no wonder you were so quiet after coming back in from that treck! I thought you looked a little pale. LOL
One word of warning... You do not want to post here asking a question you have not thoroughly researched. They will hand you your ***, then ban you. They also require you type your post into a program with a grammar and spelling checker as they do not tolerate that either. I am too frightened to post there so I just lurk. Maybe one day I will work up the courage.
03-22-2006, 04:52 PM
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yeah, it is a nice site, a good forum, with lots of diehard track junkies. But only the well researched, and brave should post, as TA said, they seem pretty strict, and pretty set on beign that way. But there is a lot of good reading there, and some good footage of different tracks, including RA.
03-22-2006, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Stop&TurnFreak
Maybe Nabil will play nice, you know I end up leading more than following. Something about seeing a car, and playing fetch.
03-22-2006, 07:04 PM
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ALRIGHT! NOW WE ARE COOKING, Can't wait to see them RSD! 
Speaking of cooking... RSD, you asked for my wife's recipe for those Chocolate/Peanut butter chip cookies and I thought I'd share it with everyone that had the pleasure of sampling them at the track.
(Makes 24 to 36 bars)
1/2 cup margarine or butter
1-1/2 cups graham cracker crumbs
1 914-oz) can Eagle Brand Sweetened Condensed Milk (NOT evaporated milk)
1 (12-oz) package semi-sweet chocolate chips
1 cup peanut butter chips
Preheat oven to 350º (325º for glas dish). In 13x9" baking pan, melt margarine in oven. Sprinkle crumbs evenly over margarine; pour sweetened condensed milk evenly over crumbs. Top with chips; press down firmly. Bake 25 to 30 minutes or until lightly browned. Cool. Cut into bars.
GOOD STUFF!
Speaking of cooking... RSD, you asked for my wife's recipe for those Chocolate/Peanut butter chip cookies and I thought I'd share it with everyone that had the pleasure of sampling them at the track.
(Makes 24 to 36 bars)
1/2 cup margarine or butter
1-1/2 cups graham cracker crumbs
1 914-oz) can Eagle Brand Sweetened Condensed Milk (NOT evaporated milk)
1 (12-oz) package semi-sweet chocolate chips
1 cup peanut butter chips
Preheat oven to 350º (325º for glas dish). In 13x9" baking pan, melt margarine in oven. Sprinkle crumbs evenly over margarine; pour sweetened condensed milk evenly over crumbs. Top with chips; press down firmly. Bake 25 to 30 minutes or until lightly browned. Cool. Cut into bars.
GOOD STUFF!
03-22-2006, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverEIGHT
ALRIGHT! NOW WE ARE COOKING, Can't wait to see them RSD!
Speaking of cooking... RSD, you asked for my wife's recipe for those Chocolate/Peanut butter chip cookies and I thought I'd share it with everyone that had the pleasure of sampling them at the track.
(Makes 24 to 36 bars)
1/2 cup margarine or butter
1-1/2 cups graham cracker crumbs
1 914-oz) can Eagle Brand Sweetened Condensed Milk (NOT evaporated milk)
1 (12-oz) package semi-sweet chocolate chips
1 cup peanut butter chips
Preheat oven to 350º (325º for glas dish). In 13x9" baking pan, melt margarine in oven. Sprinkle crumbs evenly over margarine; pour sweetened condensed milk evenly over crumbs. Top with chips; press down firmly. Bake 25 to 30 minutes or until lightly browned. Cool. Cut into bars.
GOOD STUFF!
Speaking of cooking... RSD, you asked for my wife's recipe for those Chocolate/Peanut butter chip cookies and I thought I'd share it with everyone that had the pleasure of sampling them at the track.
(Makes 24 to 36 bars)
1/2 cup margarine or butter
1-1/2 cups graham cracker crumbs
1 914-oz) can Eagle Brand Sweetened Condensed Milk (NOT evaporated milk)
1 (12-oz) package semi-sweet chocolate chips
1 cup peanut butter chips
Preheat oven to 350º (325º for glas dish). In 13x9" baking pan, melt margarine in oven. Sprinkle crumbs evenly over margarine; pour sweetened condensed milk evenly over crumbs. Top with chips; press down firmly. Bake 25 to 30 minutes or until lightly browned. Cool. Cut into bars.
GOOD STUFF!
03-22-2006, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by RedSheDevil
SECOND!
was that too loud? sorry!!!
here is a sample of some of the stellar photos I am sifting through ...
was that too loud? sorry!!!
here is a sample of some of the stellar photos I am sifting through ...
03-22-2006, 08:36 PM
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OK, here's the deal...I've been fighting a headache all day, so I'm just going to upload the small versions of these pics (took me 2 hours to go through, choose ones that HAD cars in them, and then resize). There are a handful that I'd like to play around with in photoshop, but my brain has just had it today. So, instead of keeping y'all (or is it ya'll) waiting, here are some of the best shots. I will upload all of my shots to silver's site.....just not tonight 
Next post will have pics!!!
Next post will have pics!!!
