350Z's and WRX's make me mad!!!!
07-08-2005 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Sigma
Well, yes, V8s can get really good mileage on the freeway since they're cruising at almost idle, but they get even worse than an RX-8 in-town, particularly if you're one to really get on it. Most people's average mileage overall in the GTO for example (a car that in Automatic form has a Gas Guzzler tax in the US) is right around what most people get on average in the RX-8 -- about 17 mpg.
When I bought the 8 I wasn't expecting great mpg. For the first tank I got 18.5mpg, second tank was 19.5mpg, and the last fill was 20.1mpg. Not bad, but I'm still hoping it will match the mpg I was getting from the V8 in the 02 Mustang GT.
One thing is for sure, when I drive the 8, I don't care about other cars. I'm in love with the 8, it feels like a more expensive car that it actually is. Three weeks ago I was shopping for a new car, I considered the G35 and 350Z. The WRX/Evo were out of the question because I don't like grocery-getter-vehicles with turbo; their performance is great, but these cars just looks nasty for $30k. Besides, the hate the "ricer" look they have. The 350Z proportions are wrong, it looks attractive because is very different to other cars, but when looking a it closely, it looks ugly IMO. The G35 is beutiful, but the 8 is nicer to my eyes. The 8 is not a perfect car, but is perfect for me
07-08-2005 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Sigma
ALL cars require oil too. And they actually require checking it regularly too, it's just that your average American is too damned lazy to do so. Frankly if you got your oil changed at 3,000-mile intervals you'd probably never have to check if it really bothered you that much. Unless you got a real bad motor off the line I doubt you'd be burning oil fast enough to damage the engine before you changed it. Plenty of people haven't noticed any measureable amount of oil consumption at all between oil changes and many people don't report any more oil consumption than I lose in my Mazda6 between changes.
And if I had to choose between how often I have to stop and pour $40 into my tank and how often I have to stop and check oil and pour, maybe, 40 cents of oil into it I think I know what I'd pick. Of course I picked a car that requires both, so I'm not exactly average.
Funny thing, and rather off-topic, is that your average American will bitch and moan about a $40/tank of gas, but even if the rotary managed to get 40mpg, I think people would still be put off by having to add the oil. God forbid they have to touch a dipstick. It's hard to even find a decent squigee (sp?) at a gas station these days and you almost never seen anyone use them like you did years ago because people don't want to risk getting 'dirty'.
And if I had to choose between how often I have to stop and pour $40 into my tank and how often I have to stop and check oil and pour, maybe, 40 cents of oil into it I think I know what I'd pick. Of course I picked a car that requires both, so I'm not exactly average.
Funny thing, and rather off-topic, is that your average American will bitch and moan about a $40/tank of gas, but even if the rotary managed to get 40mpg, I think people would still be put off by having to add the oil. God forbid they have to touch a dipstick. It's hard to even find a decent squigee (sp?) at a gas station these days and you almost never seen anyone use them like you did years ago because people don't want to risk getting 'dirty'.
07-08-2005 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Niro
Did I lump all 8 buyers? I said average consumer....
I'm not a rotary enthusiast and I do care about performance. There was nothing about "average consumer". Have a nice day and come back and see us.
07-08-2005 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Stop&TurnFreak
Congratulations, this is the longest pissing match, ever. I say we all shake, flush, and move on. Start another thread to define all these different things..
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07-08-2005 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by -=Rowdy=-
No, you lumped them together-"...so who's going to be buying the car? The rotary enthusiasts and those who don't really care about performance as much but like the looks..."
I'm not a rotary enthusiast and I do care about performance. There was nothing about "average consumer". Have a nice day and come back and see us.
I'm not a rotary enthusiast and I do care about performance. There was nothing about "average consumer". Have a nice day and come back and see us.
So thanks and have a nice day and come back and see us.
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