350Z's and WRX's make me mad!!!!
07-07-2005, 03:09 PM
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PkSkull, I've also seen the WRX reviewed at 6 seconds and the 8 reviewed at 5.9. Does that mean the 8 is faster?
As far as you owning both, did you race both of them at the same time with you in each car? Well no, seeing as there's only one of you. So again, there's no way to tell. You may "feel" like the WRX is faster, but that's just because of the nature of the rotary engine...it never "feels" like it's accelerating very fast.
http://www.forbes.com/2001/03/12/0312test2.html
As far as you owning both, did you race both of them at the same time with you in each car? Well no, seeing as there's only one of you. So again, there's no way to tell. You may "feel" like the WRX is faster, but that's just because of the nature of the rotary engine...it never "feels" like it's accelerating very fast.
http://www.forbes.com/2001/03/12/0312test2.html
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07-07-2005, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by khtm
PkSkull, I've also seen the WRX reviewed at 6 seconds and the 8 reviewed at 5.9. Does that mean the 8 is faster?
As far as you owning both, did you race both of them at the same time with you in each car? Well no, seeing as there's only one of you. So again, there's no way to tell. You may "feel" like the WRX is faster, but that's just because of the nature of the rotary engine...it never "feels" like it's accelerating very fast.
http://www.forbes.com/2001/03/12/0312test2.html
As far as you owning both, did you race both of them at the same time with you in each car? Well no, seeing as there's only one of you. So again, there's no way to tell. You may "feel" like the WRX is faster, but that's just because of the nature of the rotary engine...it never "feels" like it's accelerating very fast.
http://www.forbes.com/2001/03/12/0312test2.html
07-07-2005, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by khtm
^ I agree about the clutch drops. I'm just trying to defend Broker's position, and am glad that you admitted it was a driver's race.
I never said it wasn't. Any cars within a second of eachother make it a drivers race. Heck on any give day you could beat an STI, becuase the driver sucks. Same driver, same conditions, a WRX wins.
07-07-2005, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by khtm
Ahhhh...too bad we don't live in that fantasy world though...same driver, same conditions. 
Thing is...0-60 times don't require that much skill...just know how to launch and know when to shift...you'll hit 60 in 2nd gear...so not much room to mess up either.
07-07-2005, 03:58 PM
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Niro you're putting the STI in the same class as the 8...yah ok??? Never even seen a comparison between the two...why...because they are very different beasts...correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't most write ups talk about the STI & EVO and draw the comparison as rally car knock offs....man dude give me a break....
then you flame away about the 8 only being .5sec faster than the RSX-s, yet if I give you the benefit of the doubt (hardly), the WRX would only be what, .2-.1 sec faster to 60...jesus......I am done with you.
then you flame away about the 8 only being .5sec faster than the RSX-s, yet if I give you the benefit of the doubt (hardly), the WRX would only be what, .2-.1 sec faster to 60...jesus......I am done with you.
07-07-2005, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Broker73
Niro you're putting the STI in the same class as the 8...yah ok??? Never even seen a comparison between the two...why...because they are very different beasts...correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't most write ups talk about the STI & EVO and draw the comparison as rally car knock offs....man dude give me a break....
then you flame away about the 8 only being .5sec faster than the RSX-s, yet if I give you the benefit of the doubt (hardly), the WRX would only be what, .2-.1 sec faster to 60...jesus......I am done with you.
then you flame away about the 8 only being .5sec faster than the RSX-s, yet if I give you the benefit of the doubt (hardly), the WRX would only be what, .2-.1 sec faster to 60...jesus......I am done with you.
RSX is a fwd...I'm still not understanding why you're comparing it to an rx8?
That's something you rarely see if anything...that's ok...this is all coming from a guy that claims an rx8 is faster then a wrx...so enjoy your fantasy world.
07-07-2005, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by khtm
true dat, but I'm betting your average stop-light racer has trouble managing even that much
07-07-2005, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Broker73
Niro you're putting the STI in the same class as the 8...yah ok??? Never even seen a comparison between the two...why...because they are very different beasts...correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't most write ups talk about the STI & EVO and draw the comparison as rally car knock offs....man dude give me a break...
07-07-2005, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Pkskull77
I agree, it does take some talent to put down 2 good shifts at high RPM's
07-07-2005, 04:20 PM
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It's not fair to say the 8 is slow, its a damn good car, and a ton of fun to drive. However, I do feel it is fair to compare the STI and the 8, their both sports cars. The reason mags don't bother is because their is no competition.
As far as cost is concerend, a GT 8 is 31,000 sticker. You can get it cheaper, but thats only because the car is not selling well. Therefore there is about a 3 g difference in price. If you want power the STI is a much better purchase, if you don't care about speed and want refienment go for the 8. That decision is all about personal prefence.
As far as cost is concerend, a GT 8 is 31,000 sticker. You can get it cheaper, but thats only because the car is not selling well. Therefore there is about a 3 g difference in price. If you want power the STI is a much better purchase, if you don't care about speed and want refienment go for the 8. That decision is all about personal prefence.
07-07-2005, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Niro
so because the sti is so much faster, handles so much better then the rx8 it puts it in a completely different class...not even worth comparing to a slow sport car like an rx8 even tho' the cost is about the same...makes sense, thanks.
07-07-2005, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Pkskull77
It's not fair to say the 8 is slow, its a damn good car, and a ton of fun to drive. However, I do feel it is fair to compare the STI and the 8, their both sports cars. The reason mags don't bother is because their is no competition.
As far as cost is concerend, a GT 8 is 31,000 sticker. You can get it cheaper, but thats only because the car is not selling well. Therefore there is about a 3 g difference in price. If you want power the STI is a much better purchase, if you don't care about speed and want refienment go for the 8. That decision is all about personal prefence.
As far as cost is concerend, a GT 8 is 31,000 sticker. You can get it cheaper, but thats only because the car is not selling well. Therefore there is about a 3 g difference in price. If you want power the STI is a much better purchase, if you don't care about speed and want refienment go for the 8. That decision is all about personal prefence.
07-07-2005, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by khtm
In Canada, the 8 starts at $36K whereas the STi starts at $47K...not close by my book.
07-07-2005, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Niro
In america...the difference is 3-4k...that's close by my book.
STi: $32,445 USD
RX-8: $25,935 USD
Yeah, that's about 3-4K
07-07-2005, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Pkskull77
It's not fair to compare the base mode RX-8 to an STI, because there is only one SIT. A fairer comparision is the GT to the STI.
Anybody in the market for one fully loaded car is probably a "fully loaded" type of person and wouldn't settle for the base of another type of car. Just my guess though.
07-07-2005, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by khtm
Hey, I'm just stating the facts. RX-8 base is way cheaper than STi base. RX-8 fully loaded is way cheaper than STi fully loaded. If you want to compare a fully loaded 8 to a base STi then that's your choice but I don't know why anybody would want to do that.
Anybody in the market for one fully loaded car is probably a "fully loaded" type of person and wouldn't settle for the base of another type of car. Just my guess though.
Anybody in the market for one fully loaded car is probably a "fully loaded" type of person and wouldn't settle for the base of another type of car. Just my guess though.
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Originally Posted by khtm
Hey, I'm just stating the facts. RX-8 base is way cheaper than STi base. RX-8 fully loaded is way cheaper than STi fully loaded. If you want to compare a fully loaded 8 to a base STi then that's your choice but I don't know why anybody would want to do that.
Anybody in the market for one fully loaded car is probably a "fully loaded" type of person and wouldn't settle for the base of another type of car. Just my guess though.
Anybody in the market for one fully loaded car is probably a "fully loaded" type of person and wouldn't settle for the base of another type of car. Just my guess though.
07-07-2005, 04:47 PM
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Hey, the Auto 8 and Manual 8 are the SAME PRICE in Canada so give me a break! I just looked on the US websites for the "starting from" prices. Jeez.
I'm done here.
I'm done here.
07-07-2005, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Niro
In america...the difference is 3-4k...that's close by my book.
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Niro you are clueless...when did I say the 8 was faster than the WRX?? all I said was they were close to even.....then you switch gears and start talking about the STI??.give me a break....yah the STI will blow away the 8, and the 350Z, the base WRX to name a few....we were talking about the WRX RX8 Comp.....and I am sorry, but the fully loaded 8 is no where near the price of a fully loaded STI, or G35C, at least not in Canada. We start talking about one thing and you throw in another car (STI) for what purpose....I was just throwing names out there as far as cars in the mid 14's to low 15's for the 1/4, like the RSX-S.....yah it's FWD, but who cares, is the 8 AWD like the STI??? :p Jesus man, it is clear you don't own the car....in fact you probably own the WRX and just want to mix it up over here...best of luck......and once again, a fully loaded 350Z, G33C in comparison with a fully loaded 8 is not close in price up here...sorry.
Get a life.
You had to change topics because you knew I was right about the WRX and 8....and then put words into my mouth about the 8 being faster??...once again, and listen carefully this time ! all I said was the WRX, from a light and on the highway did not pull on me....so what does that mean??..do you want me to spell it out for you.....about dead even, or close to it.....have a good weekend....I am off to Mexico for a week.......TakeCare
Get a life.
You had to change topics because you knew I was right about the WRX and 8....and then put words into my mouth about the 8 being faster??...once again, and listen carefully this time ! all I said was the WRX, from a light and on the highway did not pull on me....so what does that mean??..do you want me to spell it out for you.....about dead even, or close to it.....have a good weekend....I am off to Mexico for a week.......TakeCare