AEM Cold Air
03-17-2005 | 06:39 PM
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AEM Cold Air
I didn't see much recent information posted about the AEM cold air induction. Has anyone made a purchase?
http://www.hopupracing.com/aemcoairinsy33.html
http://www.hopupracing.com/aemcoairinsy33.html
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03-17-2005 | 10:36 PM
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wow that a stupid amoun tof power to expect off of an air intake for our car. i bet it doesn't ad anythign close to that. i'm guessing they missplaced teh decimal point on their calculations:p
03-18-2005 | 10:01 AM
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Cold Air Intakes make a HUGE difference compared to the regular intakes everyone seems to be buying. Remember - a drop of 10 degrees in ambient temperature can lead to a 1 percent increase in power - if you're sucking up 60 degree air from outside instead of 120 degree air from inside, that's a 6 percent increase in power.
Some examples - a Celica GT-S with only a CAI can gain 10 shp easily. An RSX-S with the AEM V2 CONSISTENTLY dynos an 18-20 whp gain. CAIs are the ****. Go to any other car forum, look at the dynos of before/after with a CAI and you'll see what I mean (and these dynos are inside a shop - imagine on the street, moving, with some nice cool air).
Some examples - a Celica GT-S with only a CAI can gain 10 shp easily. An RSX-S with the AEM V2 CONSISTENTLY dynos an 18-20 whp gain. CAIs are the ****. Go to any other car forum, look at the dynos of before/after with a CAI and you'll see what I mean (and these dynos are inside a shop - imagine on the street, moving, with some nice cool air).
03-18-2005 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by cretinx
Cold Air Intakes make a HUGE difference compared to the regular intakes everyone seems to be buying. Remember - a drop of 10 degrees in ambient temperature can lead to a 1 percent increase in power - if you're sucking up 60 degree air from outside instead of 120 degree air from inside, that's a 6 percent increase in power.
Some examples - a Celica GT-S with only a CAI can gain 10 shp easily. An RSX-S with the AEM V2 CONSISTENTLY dynos an 18-20 whp gain. CAIs are the ****. Go to any other car forum, look at the dynos of before/after with a CAI and you'll see what I mean (and these dynos are inside a shop - imagine on the street, moving, with some nice cool air).
Some examples - a Celica GT-S with only a CAI can gain 10 shp easily. An RSX-S with the AEM V2 CONSISTENTLY dynos an 18-20 whp gain. CAIs are the ****. Go to any other car forum, look at the dynos of before/after with a CAI and you'll see what I mean (and these dynos are inside a shop - imagine on the street, moving, with some nice cool air).
03-18-2005 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by shaunv74
Our stock intake already gets cold air from outside the engine bay behind the nosepiece.
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03-18-2005 | 01:01 PM
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Does this CAI relocate the intake to the fender well?
Most other CAIs go behind the wheel down in there, way way WAY away from the engine, outside the engine bay itself. You usually have to cut a hole to get it out there. This could make a difference, considering the stock intake position is still inside the engine bay and surrounded by hot air, even if its sucking air in from the nose.
Most other CAIs go behind the wheel down in there, way way WAY away from the engine, outside the engine bay itself. You usually have to cut a hole to get it out there. This could make a difference, considering the stock intake position is still inside the engine bay and surrounded by hot air, even if its sucking air in from the nose.
03-18-2005 | 07:24 PM
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At least its on AEM's website...
Mazda RX8 2004 21-485 Pending Coming Soon $440.00
http://www.aempower.com
Mazda RX8 2004 21-485 Pending Coming Soon $440.00
http://www.aempower.com
03-18-2005 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by cretinx
Does this CAI relocate the intake to the fender well?
Most other CAIs go behind the wheel down in there, way way WAY away from the engine, outside the engine bay itself. You usually have to cut a hole to get it out there. This could make a difference, considering the stock intake position is still inside the engine bay and surrounded by hot air, even if its sucking air in from the nose.
Most other CAIs go behind the wheel down in there, way way WAY away from the engine, outside the engine bay itself. You usually have to cut a hole to get it out there. This could make a difference, considering the stock intake position is still inside the engine bay and surrounded by hot air, even if its sucking air in from the nose.
Wherever this thing goes, it's not going to add more than a couple of HP, if at all. Since we already have a tuned intake tract with the VFAD + S-DAIS, a filter on a stick will likely end up hurting performance instead. The only company making an intake that is taking the existing intake tuning into account is Racing Beat, at least that I've heard about.
03-20-2005 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by G8rboy
Our stock intake already has a cold air path to the nose, even though it's not sucking directly from in front of the radiator. You can easily modify that though to suck straight down into the high-pressure cold air coming in from the nose, as I have done.
Wherever this thing goes, it's not going to add more than a couple of HP, if at all. Since we already have a tuned intake tract with the VFAD + S-DAIS, a filter on a stick will likely end up hurting performance instead. The only company making an intake that is taking the existing intake tuning into account is Racing Beat, at least that I've heard about.
Wherever this thing goes, it's not going to add more than a couple of HP, if at all. Since we already have a tuned intake tract with the VFAD + S-DAIS, a filter on a stick will likely end up hurting performance instead. The only company making an intake that is taking the existing intake tuning into account is Racing Beat, at least that I've heard about.
thats why i call them every week and harass them about it
03-20-2005 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by cretinx
Does this CAI relocate the intake to the fender well?
Most other CAIs go behind the wheel down in there, way way WAY away from the engine, outside the engine bay itself. You usually have to cut a hole to get it out there. This could make a difference, considering the stock intake position is still inside the engine bay and surrounded by hot air, even if its sucking air in from the nose.
Most other CAIs go behind the wheel down in there, way way WAY away from the engine, outside the engine bay itself. You usually have to cut a hole to get it out there. This could make a difference, considering the stock intake position is still inside the engine bay and surrounded by hot air, even if its sucking air in from the nose.
Intakes don't do much on the RX-8. A couple might gain a little, some might keep you the same, and a few others probably lose a few horsepower. I'm waiting for the Racing beat intake. While I don't expect miracles out of it either, it will do something. If they add a ram air duct to their box (injection molded, not aluminum), it will probably benefit at higher speeds. This can't be done by just placing a filter in the air stream btw. This isn't a Celica, RSX, or any other car. The RX-8 intake system was designed very well. Those other cars intakes apparently were not.
03-20-2005 | 08:22 PM
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Beg to differ on one point. The stock air box is indeed well designed. However it DOES soak up heat at speeds lower than 50mph. Do a pre filter air temp measure on a 90 degree day at speed under 50. Mine was (in Georgia) 121 degrees! I was city driving with speeds 35-45 mph for 20 minutes with a/c on. At speeds above 50 then the pre filtered air temp does indeed go to ambient temp. Its easy to reroute the intake to say behind the front rotor symbol and I think its a good inexpensive mod. If people want to play with the filters well then go ahead. like you say its not going to make much differance performance wise.
olddragger
Beg to differ on one point. The stock air box is indeed well designed. However it DOES soak up heat at speeds lower than 50mph. Do a pre filter air temp measure on a 90 degree day at speed under 50. Mine was (in Georgia) 121 degrees! I was city driving with speeds 35-45 mph for 20 minutes with a/c on. At speeds above 50 then the pre filtered air temp does indeed go to ambient temp. Its easy to reroute the intake to say behind the front rotor symbol and I think its a good inexpensive mod. If people want to play with the filters well then go ahead. like you say its not going to make much differance performance wise.
olddragger
03-27-2005 | 01:37 AM
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AEM is a ricey *** brand anyway, i doubt it will be any different, show me some diagrams that put the intake clearly out of the way of the engine bay with some sort of decent amount of direct air exposure and then i will put it on the top of my list of intakes, right now HKS is at the top for overall quality, sound, 4-7hp gain(one of the best gains from any of the intakes out there) and the fact that there are ZERO problems associated with it.