AEM and the RX-8
#102
if so, then you would probably have to take off the front bumper. o yea, for those of you who plan on putting on the aem intake, the aem instruction is really bad, they make you do alot of unnecessary stuff. follow the instructions of how to take out the actual intake, but all you really need to take off after that is the front bumper and one other part. there's no need to take off the wheels and unplug the electronics inside the wheel and underneath the car.
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the black back is not actually a water bag, that is a filter cover that helps keep larger debris from the filter, basically a prefilter. you can choose to put it on or leave it off, i left mine off.
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no i do not, and i will not be putting one on. i have driven through torrential downpours in my old civic, which was lowered 2", without a bypass valve on, with zero problems. as long as you are not driving though deep (by deep i mean in excess of 6") puddles or standing water, you should have no problems. the biggest problem is people driving through standing water or deep puddles, and keeping the rpms up, when you do this and have the filter submerged up to the intake piping, at the higher rpms you are sucking water up the piping just like a straw, which is bad for the motor.
again, rain will not affect your car with an aem cai. it is standing deep water that is a concern.
again, rain will not affect your car with an aem cai. it is standing deep water that is a concern.
#106
icic, thanx for the info man. it's just cuz our filter is so exposed that i get kinda worried about it. it's kind of like i just want a bypass for the winter season and take it off for the summer.
#107
And you should never drive through standing water period to begin with (of any depth). Its funny that when people come across an area with water deep enough to kill the cars, they fail to notice the other dead cars on the side of the road, and drive through anyway .
If your in 12-18 inches of water, your screwed regardless of whether or not you have an intake. The amount of useless deaths caused by people trying to drive through standing water is depressing. Street flooded? Turn around and find another route!
If your in 12-18 inches of water, your screwed regardless of whether or not you have an intake. The amount of useless deaths caused by people trying to drive through standing water is depressing. Street flooded? Turn around and find another route!
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Filter cleaning
I was reading this forum and somebody said that you had to take the bumper off everytime you have to clean the filter. Is this true? I live in the desert where dust is pretty prevelant and I don't think cleaning it once a year is going to be sufficient. And I don't want to be taking my bumper off to much as it will eventually wear out the clips or screws holding it in place.
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Originally Posted by Mr.Wankel
I was reading this forum and somebody said that you had to take the bumper off everytime you have to clean the filter. Is this true? I live in the desert where dust is pretty prevelant and I don't think cleaning it once a year is going to be sufficient. And I don't want to be taking my bumper off to much as it will eventually wear out the clips or screws holding it in place.
NO you do not need to take off the bumper I have taking off my filter about 5 times with the bumper on. Also there was a sick thunder storm with a couple of inches of water i did not hydro lock then engine and no its ok that the filter gets soak and wet..... :D
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finally some numbers
well, finally had a chance to get on the rollers with the aem. :D :D
so far mods are:
aem cai
royal purple for entire drive train (5w20 in crankcase, and 75w90 in trans and diff)
custom engine ground kit
and the numbers are...............
181.3 hp and 136 torque.
evidence below
so far mods are:
aem cai
royal purple for entire drive train (5w20 in crankcase, and 75w90 in trans and diff)
custom engine ground kit
and the numbers are...............
181.3 hp and 136 torque.
evidence below
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Originally Posted by lurch519
well, finally had a chance to get on the rollers with the aem. :D :D
so far mods are:
aem cai
royal purple for entire drive train (5w20 in crankcase, and 75w90 in trans and diff)
custom engine ground kit
and the numbers are...............
181.3 hp and 136 torque.
evidence below
so far mods are:
aem cai
royal purple for entire drive train (5w20 in crankcase, and 75w90 in trans and diff)
custom engine ground kit
and the numbers are...............
181.3 hp and 136 torque.
evidence below
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lol, sorry polak, dont have a number to the shop. was at a car show here in delaware and they had a dyno set up. no number on the sheet, nothing.
are you talking about the quick dip then rise right at that range. thats probably from the intake ports reconfiguring if i remember correctly. secondary's open around 3700, then theres some kind of crosslink port that opens i believe right around the 6200 point, then the tertiary's open, i think thats right
are you talking about the quick dip then rise right at that range. thats probably from the intake ports reconfiguring if i remember correctly. secondary's open around 3700, then theres some kind of crosslink port that opens i believe right around the 6200 point, then the tertiary's open, i think thats right
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Originally Posted by DARKMAZ8
wouldn't the length of this intake decrease torque?
or are your mearly trying to snide in that stock is still the holy grail of intakes for the rx-8...? I was like you till I dyno'd REVI and installed the Ram Air soon afterwards I've leaned out my AFR's significantly for just intake mods.
#120
Bummed, but bring on OU!
Calm down people. Good grief, heaven forbid someone doesn't praise the almighty AEM Perhaps he meant low end torque...
Intake tract length and diameter changes definately shift the old torque curve around a bit. Most CAI installations result in a loss of low end power while gaining in the upper end.
Intake tract length and diameter changes definately shift the old torque curve around a bit. Most CAI installations result in a loss of low end power while gaining in the upper end.
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actually, a longer intake runner should bump up the low end torque due to resonant frequency. look at the integra with the dual intake runner lengths. long runners for low rpm, short runners for high rpm.
when the intake ports open on an engine, you get a vacuum wave traveling up the intake tube, when it gets to the end, it reflects back as a compression wave. at different rpms, you will get different volumetric efficiences, due the compression wave timing reaching the intake port and pushing a bit more air into the engine.
when the intake ports open on an engine, you get a vacuum wave traveling up the intake tube, when it gets to the end, it reflects back as a compression wave. at different rpms, you will get different volumetric efficiences, due the compression wave timing reaching the intake port and pushing a bit more air into the engine.
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Originally Posted by therm8
Calm down people. Good grief, heaven forbid someone doesn't praise the almighty AEM Perhaps he meant low end torque...
Intake tract length and diameter changes definately shift the old torque curve around a bit. Most CAI installations result in a loss of low end power while gaining in the upper end.
Intake tract length and diameter changes definately shift the old torque curve around a bit. Most CAI installations result in a loss of low end power while gaining in the upper end.
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Originally Posted by DARKMAZ8
Thank you...this is exactly what I ment.
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Originally Posted by PoLaK
Well my apologizes in this case, however it's incorrect... lurch519's explaination longer runners will give you more lowend short ones for highend, although with all the quirks with the MAF in the 8 I find it hard to make such generalizations.
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the aem is actually bigger in diameter than the throttle body itself. the section where the maf goes is about the same diameter as the stock maf pipe.
aem piping ranges from about 3" to 3.5 inches.
aem piping ranges from about 3" to 3.5 inches.