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Old 01-12-2006 | 11:40 AM
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best bang for buck- RP Cat or Unortho pulleys

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Just trying to get a concensus here. My next mod will probaly be one of the two listed. RP cat goes for about $425 with gaskets etc and the Pulley set goes for about $250 uninstalled. I hear good and bad about both. Can't make up my mind. I have the RB catback but if the cat will give me another 8hp(as claimed) then it may win. But I cant find where the cat is giving 8hp or so consistantly. Same with the pullies--some like them and feel the differance--some dont. Would just removing the a/c belt(for track days) be just as good?
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Old 01-12-2006 | 01:10 PM
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If you really want something that will have a performance gaing that you will feel. I will go with a final gear change.
Old 01-12-2006 | 01:21 PM
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probably hi flow cat, you save on weight and get a small increase in power. I don't think pulleys provide any hp gains.
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od - I have them both installed. Definitely the high flow cat is the biggest bang. As for the pulleys, my throttle response is allot crisper now, and I find that the engine seems to rev easier. I like them both.

I currently have the REV8 installed, but she is coming off this weekend.
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FWIW, I would +1^^^^^

Nemesis, what are you getting? I am droping my REV8 soon, too.
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Did not say for fear of getting flamed, but I'm installing the RB Single.
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i unfortunetly can't say that i picked up any power with the RP cat
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Originally Posted by Nemesis8
Did not say for fear of getting flamed, but I'm installing the RB Single.
Hey! That is funny that you said that. I just got back from a speed shop this afternoon to look into installing a single muffler axleback (off the REV8 midpipe extention.) I think I have desided to set up a appt. for...soon. Going with a magnaflow 14239 which is 12lbs. (dont tell anyone but I am going to copy RBs downturned tip to quiet down the MF straight thru muffler) Going to have no tips!!! Congrats. I think that is an excellent compromize between resonably high quality, good price and reasonable weight loss. No flames here.
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ok 2 votes for the cat and slight ok for the pully's and one with didnt get nothing.
Hence my delimna--plus I cant spell
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Old 01-12-2006 | 04:52 PM
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One works & the other one doesn't. This isn't a big V8 where you are removing a ton of weight in addition to massively underdriving the components (UR stated they are only undriving like 15%-20%). You are not taking out weight from a massive 15-20 lb. harmonic balancer. The pulleies together maybe add up to a few lbs.
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It's 11% on the eccentric shaft with the UR
Old 01-12-2006 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Nemesis8
Did not say for fear of getting flamed, but I'm installing the RB Single.
You know what's funny. The rx7store.net rx8 dual catback is the same weight as the RB single

RB mufflers must be damn heavy.
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so rp cat/pipe is the go ahead?-- can the seat of the pants feel the differance?
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Old 01-12-2006 | 08:40 PM
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For you Washington guys, maybe you should ask if the equipment comes with free rain tires for your car, or free scuba gear for yourselves.
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I could when I installed mine. I'd recommend it any day of the week.
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Originally Posted by olddragger
so rp cat/pipe is the go ahead?-- can the seat of the pants feel the differance?
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Definite seat of the pants feeling

(Fanman - I think I am growing gills to breath lately)
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Ok then --sounds like I better tell my teenagers the bad news. No rolling stones concert for them--I'm a going to get the cat. Hope it sounds of with my rev8
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http://www.nemesis8.com/videos/RB+RP.wmv
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Originally Posted by dDuB
RB mufflers must be damn heavy.
Racing Beat Race Muffler is 17.5 lbs

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Thanks Nem--does change the decibels a little doesnt it? Sounds good to me. More of a "present and accounted for" tone!
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Have you conversed with Charlie @ Mazcare on these options? If not, you may want to...
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rp cat over the pullys. pullys don't do anything
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well I've seen a number of dynos that say different, so which ones do you believe?

FWIW, SRMotorsports has their original pulley system on sale for $399, they recently came out with a new wide belt pulley system, looks like it adds two more ribs, they say 25% wider and prevents the water pump from slipping at high rpm
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Originally Posted by Nemesis8
Racing Beat Race Muffler is 17.5 lbs


For just the muffler yes, but he whole thing with feeder pipe is 26 lb, my custom one is 9 lb and I bet it's just as quiet on the sound meter, one of their issues is the use 0.065 wall tube (16 Ga) because it's readily avalable but it's really overkill for a stainless system, 18 Ga is plenty adequate for a street system and a race system can get away with 20 Ga, for serious race 22 Ga Inconel 625 will give the best weight/performance

I'm presently building a street version with dual mufflers and tips as a present for a special friend that I think will come in around 16 lbs despite being stainless, should have it done within the next month
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
well I've seen a number of dynos that say different, so which ones do you believe?

FWIW, SRMotorsports has their original pulley system on sale for $399, they recently came out with a new wide belt pulley system, looks like it adds two more ribs, they say 25% wider and prevents the water pump from slipping at high rpm
$639 ! Holy Cow !


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