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Zelse 05-26-2009 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by Easy_E1 (Post 3038438)
The design is such as to use the stock gaskets. Which are included with the pipe.

... I think I just filled the cup. You guys SERIOUSLY need to stop making everything so easy and plug and play. I may just get too lazy to do ANY work to my car anymore. lol

Phil's 8 05-26-2009 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by Easy_E1 (Post 3038466)
It will be under $1000.00 :Eyecrazy:

I understand that it will be competitive.


Originally Posted by Easy_E1 (Post 3038438)
The design is such as to use the stock gaskets. Which are included with the pipe.
If all goes well we'll bring it to Vegas and install it for you. :) And Phil of course. And anybody else on the list up there.

Sounds good to me. You'll be very busy.

shazy 05-26-2009 08:42 AM

Wait... is the price international? As an example, if it's 300$ in the US, will it be 300$ Canadian? Or will it be american and then we have to pay the price difference?

Easy_E1 05-26-2009 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by shazy (Post 3038701)
Wait... is the price international? As an example, if it's 300$ in the US, will it be 300$ Canadian? Or will it be american and then we have to pay the price difference?

Shazy my friend,,

The Price will be in US Dollars. It will be up to you to convert your currency to the equal US Dollar amount.

Lets just say at today's exchange rate with Canada, $500 US = $560.17 Canadian Dollars.
If you gave me just $500 Canadian, I would only get $446.00 US.
That's not fair is it?


You wouldn't want BHR to loose money with sales to our International customers? It would put us out of business.
If that were the case we wouldn't sell outside the US.

Krazed_Rx8 05-26-2009 11:43 AM

Any chance we can still be added to "The List?"

Easy_E1 05-26-2009 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by Krazed_Rx8 (Post 3038927)
Any chance we can still be added to "The List?"

Just send a PM to Charles R Hill. He'll put you on the list.

PeriQ 05-27-2009 02:25 AM

I think I'm on the list but didn't send a pm to anyone.

Can you confirm please that I'm on the list?

I need this thing with some urgency :( (my 6 month period for the AP is about to expire, would like to send at least one set of logs without cat).

Looks like you are doing a great job, congrats!

jackalpupz 05-27-2009 03:30 AM

Waiting for official price before I get on that waiting list ;).

Flashwing 05-27-2009 03:39 AM


Originally Posted by jackalpupz (Post 3040338)
Waiting for official price before I get on that waiting list ;).

The question is, can you put a price on perfection?:lol2:

dondo 05-27-2009 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by Flashwing (Post 3040341)
The question is, can you put a price on perfection?:lol2:

Hopefully the answer is yes, and hopefully we'll know how much perfection costs soon. :naughty:

Nemesis8 05-27-2009 07:51 PM

The song and dance are over - lets see some metal!

:rock:

jackalpupz 05-27-2009 10:13 PM

Is a tune recommended when switching to your midpipe? Or is it perfectly safe with no tune?

Zelse 05-27-2009 10:55 PM

Hey Ray, you still going to make a new thread once you release the midpipe?

Easy_E1 05-28-2009 12:09 AM


Originally Posted by jackalpupz (Post 3041879)
Is a tune recommended when switching to your midpipe? Or is it perfectly safe with no tune?

What are you currently using for a mid pipe? Do you have an Accessport?

PeriQ 05-28-2009 02:35 AM


Originally Posted by Easy_E1 (Post 3042061)
What are you currently using for a mid pipe? Do you have an Accessport?

Sorry, I have the same question as him... I have an AP with cat.

Easy_E1 05-28-2009 04:14 AM


Originally Posted by PeriQ (Post 3042219)
Sorry, I have the same question as him... I have an AP with cat.

Just like any other midpipe with out a Catalytic Converter. The car will run normally. Nothing tuning wise is needed.

Flashwing 05-28-2009 09:33 AM

I ran with a mid-pipe for over 2 years on the stock tune. No problems. The mid-pipe allows for you to take advantage of a few features you cannot do as easily with the stock or high flow cat.

1. You can run leaner air/fuel ratios as N/A since you no longer have to worry about the rotary's excessive EGT's burning up your cat.
2. You can pre-mix without having to worry about oil clogging your cat.
3. You can safely run increased amounts of OMP without any risk of clogging your cat.

Plus, our midpipe doesn't contain any typical silencer packing which, with high EGT's, will blow out within several thouands miles causing a serious change in the sound of the pipe.

PeriQ 05-28-2009 11:42 AM

Thank you. My question was more related with performance gains than possible problems. So, rewriting jackalpupz's question, would there be any benefit adjusting the AP calibration after the midpipe is installed? Is there anymore left to scratch (hp, mpg, ..) after getting rid of the cat?

I'm assuming there is, based on "popular knowledge"..

Thank you again.

Vlaze 05-28-2009 11:47 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong but, isn't removal of the CAT illegal? Or wouldn't it not pass inspection or let alone void the warranty for those who still have one?

It's like this for my truck whereas if you're not really allowed to remove the CAT for those reasons. However we just chisel the shit out of the inside of it and get some HP from it yet they can't say we're not running one.

alnielsen 05-28-2009 12:09 PM

Removal of the cat is against Federal law. It isn't usually enforced by local law enforcement. State and local laws would however. I believe you live in the NE US. Don't some of those states have California like emissions regs.? In that case, you would definitely have problems running w/o a cat (including a punched out cat). In most other metro areas, you have to submit to a scheduled emissions test that presently is just a ODB check for a engine error code. Certain pcm programmers can mask a bad cat code so you can pass this test.

Flashwing 05-28-2009 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by PeriQ (Post 3042561)
Thank you. My question was more related with performance gains than possible problems. So, rewriting jackalpupz's question, would there be any benefit adjusting the AP calibration after the midpipe is installed? Is there anymore left to scratch (hp, mpg, ..) after getting rid of the cat?

I'm assuming there is, based on "popular knowledge"..

Thank you again.

Yes, as stated previously you can run leaner air/fuel mixtures with a catless midpipe which can yield more power. I imagine also that a reduction in exhaust restriction will also yield some minor gains.


Originally Posted by alnielsen (Post 3042637)
Removal of the cat is against Federal law. It isn't usually enforced by local law enforcement. State and local laws would however. I believe you live in the NE US. Don't some of those states have California like emissions regs.? In that case, you would definitely have problems running w/o a cat (including a punched out cat). In most other metro areas, you have to submit to a scheduled emissions test that presently is just a ODB check for a engine error code. Certain pcm programmers can mask a bad cat code so you can pass this test.

Correct. It depends on first if you have to subject your car to emissions checks and if so, you probably stand a good chance of passing. Most states only require an OBD code check as al stated. As long as you're not hooked up to a sniffer you'll pass with the COBB accessPORT which can mask all the emissions cels.

We had a local turbo RX8 owner already pass AZ emissions with the cobb. Most of the time as long as inspectors see a buldge in the pipe they think it's a cat. Half the time they have no idea what they are looking for other than making sure you have exhaust and don't have an exhaust dump.

Vlaze 05-28-2009 12:15 PM

That's pretty much what we do. Get rid of the inner material gutting it out, and move the sensor to get around it being picked up. And yes, CT/NY area so yea, that speaks for itself.

J03K1LLARX8 05-28-2009 01:01 PM

when will the BHR midpipe going to be available for perches?

i've been in the market for a midpipe and really liked the sound of your protetype. did some looking around but nothing comes close to BHR MP. but also liked RB MP but will wait for BHR.

Jedi54 05-28-2009 01:58 PM

J03: you'll get to hear this when we're in Vegas.

Ross_Dawg 05-28-2009 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by Jedi54 (Post 3042833)
J03: you'll get to hear this when we're in Vegas.

:rock:


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