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Old 11-13-2010, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by paimon.soror
Hopefully this question hasn't been answered already but what would be the advantage of getting the pipe polished? I assume it would help to counteract rusting over time? Any merit to that assumption or additional benefits?
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Who else can say they can see them selves in their midpipe? Hmmm

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Old 11-14-2010, 01:21 AM
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After seeing and hearing pdxhak's pipe (we have the same cat-back) this is high on my list of upcoming mods!
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Originally Posted by paimon.soror
Hopefully this question hasn't been answered already but what would be the advantage of getting the pipe polished? I assume it would help to counteract rusting over time? Any merit to that assumption or additional benefits?
Gets Charles another buck and a half...
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Originally Posted by Easy_E1
Who else can say they can see them selves in their midpipe? Hmmm
i'm trying to find time to swamp out my pipe.. i'll take a replica shot.. something tells me it still isnt that mirror-like
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Please do! The more RX-8s running around with the "BHR Sound", the better.
I agree with this. If only there was something else to make it more prominent...

Like, gee I dunno... A BHR cat back system might help with that...

Silly idea, I know.

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Originally Posted by Easy_E1
Who else can say they can see them selves in their midpipe? Hmmm

Hey look! You got the curmudgeon model!
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that would explain why my midpipe has always complained about "those damn kids on my lawn"
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When is the BHR catback coming out? Will it fit a B&B midpipe? I want it naow!!!!!
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Hey Ray---how close to the trans does the resonators get?
I have been running the mazsport midpipe for a couple years now and have been very pleased with it, but I did have to add shielding because it is really close to the trans.
Would yall consider selling a midpiple shield as a package deal?
The pipe would not have to be shielded all the way around--only on approx 50% of it.
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Not yet sure but we have it as a high priority.

For now, we are working on a few other things that are pretty cool and we are opening our own "real" shop. As it stands, there are three things about MazdaManiac's car that (still) make him happy and giddy like a school-girl; 1) The engine we last built for him. 2) His new starter motor, 3) His BHR Midpipe and prototype BHR Cat-back.His happiness and input greatly influence what we develop and my happiness influences when it is we do them.[/

Just proves that I'm along for the ride.

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Originally Posted by Easy_E1
Just proves that I'm along for the ride.
You ever going to reply to my PM??
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You ever going to reply to my PM??
What PM?
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thanks Ray--been thinking about doing just that and getting the front part of my cat pipe weilded on so I can have a better gasket. Even with the carbon ones I can still get a very small leak.
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Hey Charles, haven't gotten my tracking number yet, just wondering if it did ship out yet or what the deal was.

Thanks

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Originally Posted by RX-865
Hey Charles, haven't gotten my tracking number yet, just wondering if it did ship out yet or what the deal was.

Thanks

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You'll know it shipped out when it gets delivered tomorrow morning
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Oh boy oh boy . Don't get my hopes up haha
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Looks like it's shipping out tomorrow which is fine with me. I'm just ready to bolt this sucker on, break it in, and send in my calibrations to MM for my tune
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Aaargh! Poking around the BHR website looking at the fuel pump kit for a winter project, I came across http://blackhaloracing.com/2010/09/1...pe-came-to-be/ which shows you starting with the Moroso added to the midpipe. As perhaps proof of the saying, "(self-defined) great minds run in the same gutters", this is a similar arrangement I came up with this summer on my own. To whit, from my vGarage entry:

"rx7store 3" pipe with Magnaflow 59959 metalic substrate high-flow cat and Moroso 94051 spiral-flow muffler/resonator welded in". (The 92055 has become the 94055 and the 94051 is the non-polished version.)

The Dave Sport was out of stock when I ordered it, so I got the Magnaflow instead. Unfortunately, in the preceeding pages of discussion I didn't pick up that you were gonna offer a cat version (I won't run without one). I bought the pipe used for $100, so parts came to $250 plus about $75 for welding and fitting (not exact, I also had a port-matched manifold installed which I had them do at the same time (no engine lift in my humble garage)). I was a happy camper right up to the point that you tell me that this will fall apart (unless the 94-series is better than the 92-series was). Aaargh!

I first tried it with the stock muffler and was amazed that the sound was only slightly louder than with the stock midpipe. With the Greddy SP-2 on as well, the sound actually seems better-controlled and more tolerable to me, than with the stock + SP-2. I suspect the BHR version will be similar in that one now can "tune" the desired sound level over a range of near-stock to rather brutal by the choice of cat-back. Winter projects include "second skinning" the trunk and floor areas of the car with sound deadening material, which may give what I want without going to an OBX or RB cat-back.

How long before you saw the baffle failures in the "first 7" pipes? Probably need to save my Christmas money for the BHR ...
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill

... my happiness influences when it is we do them.
You must be as happy as a dog with two dicks!
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Originally Posted by HiFlite999
How long before you saw the baffle failures in the "first 7" pipes? Probably need to save my Christmas money for the BHR ...
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HiFlite999:

In contrast, the BHR improvements are topping 15,000 miles on my 8 with no change, failure, etc...
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A few months of stop N go traffic in Miami with BHR improvements and all is well.
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What page are all the vids on of all the comparasons of BHR pipe with catbacks? I found it last week but im not going through 100+ pages!
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill

2) 30-90 days.

Further, I have heard from a few of those first 7 pipe owners and a very close customer here in PHX (who was in the video we shot) that they believe the new version to sound better than the previous version. The way they described it seems to logically coincide with the use of larger-gauge steel and more solid welds. It has been desrcibed as a deeper, more "solid" tone, than the previous resonators.

I am also about to re-check my DaveSport cat now that my bad MAF sensor has subjected the cat to completely random max-rich (11.0:1 type stuff) dumps of fuel during all driving modes since I installed it 3-4 months ago. So far, I STILL get no 420 CELs and, now that I have replaced my MAF sensor, the car sounds smooth, drive like a dream, and doesn't stink anymore. I still have the same mass-airflow as I did without the cat, too.
Well, sounds like I've got a BHR resonator in my future (plus a re-welding job). If the DaveSport survived that, it should survive anything! Any idea what the EGT went to?

Yes, I think the no-cat thing is of marginal, if any, gain - especially considering that DaveSport survives a high level of abuse.


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