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Old 07-09-2008 | 01:04 PM
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blitz throttle controller test fitting

Hi i am with blitz usa we currently need a rx8 thats fairly stock or with basic bolt on to test our product. It is a bolt on product, also the car need to be a southern california car. Also if you like our prodcut you can purchase it from us for 40% off of MSRP. If you are intrested please PM me a message if your intrested in the product. This a first come first serve. Thanks for your time.

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Old 07-09-2008 | 11:05 PM
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PM'd, increased throttle response? Or is there more to it...

edit: researched it

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Old 07-10-2008 | 02:49 AM
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anyone who has tried this, at least on another car?
cant the accessport technically address this problem?
Old 07-10-2008 | 02:57 AM
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Blitz Performance USA is located in City of Industry. I might head over there this weekend and find out what this is all about.
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The Blitz throttle controller enables alteration of the electronic throttle controller on many newer vehicles. Through 4 different modes ranging from Economy to Sport the reaction of the accelerator pedal can be altered to suit economy or performance.

Economy Mode
Designed to provide smooth throttle response for street driving providing greater fuel efficiency

Sport 1
Throttle is opened greater at lower revs compared to standard, providing faster low down acceleration but with no modification once the revs increase.

Sport 2
The throttle is opened at twice the rate of standard acceleration, designed for sport driving and circuit use.

Sport 3
Extreme sport and circuit use, the throttle is opened at four times the standard accelerator action.

Reverse Cancel harness
Prevents operation in reverse gear for safety when entering your garage.
That basically explains it.
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if i understand this product right, then yes the AP should be able to do this as well.

but whats the point..... all it does is change how much the throttle opens at a given point in pedal position...

this is the biggest placebo i've ever seen...

it doesnt increase performance in any way, it just makes you feel/think it does because when you are barely touching the pedal, the throttle is actually open the same as if you had it floored without the device installed...
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I know that it doesn't increase performance in anyway but it might help people with a lead foot who are always complaining about gas mileage.

Also, it's manufactured by Blitz!
Old 07-10-2008 | 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Renesis SE3P

Also, it's manufactured by Blitz!
its moar fasterer and most furiousest!!
Old 07-10-2008 | 04:29 AM
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They don't even claim to give more hp/power, simply an increased response rate

renesis, a tad bit too late, I'm scheduling with them tomorrow...
First I get that ARC panel, now this...

Review: Its bl**dy awesome Even at the lowest setting (Eco mode), you can readily feel the sluggish-ness of the stock e.throttle system gone straight away. And i can tell you that this is not one of those "because i buy it, so something must be different" kinda feeling. This Blitz Throttle Controller always starts off with a "off mode", hence one can always flip between stock and "xxx" mode on the road to feel the difference. Not only the sluggish-ness's gone, even changing gears are smoother now. Went over to Kenhiso's carwash place on my way home and let him test driven the car. He has the exact same feeling as i do
Basically, it seems as though the product attempts to remove the throttle input delay (when you push on the gas and it takes a second to start moving) by opening the throttle at a faster rate. Aka, you press the accelerator and the throttle is actually opened more than in comparison without the product (thus making throttle input more sensative)



This is not a dyno, below this picture is "*This product does not increase horsepower"
Seems relatively legitimate to me, I'll let you guys know once I get the product "test fitted".

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Oh, forgot to mention Buddy Club is also releasing a similar device, I think its called the "e-throttle booster" or something silly
Old 07-10-2008 | 04:36 PM
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This sounds quite interesting, especially for those who like going sideways. Throttle response was something I would like to improve so if the price is reasonable I would go for it.
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well i have to say i am quite surprised that there might be interest in a product that effectively gives you a lead/feather foot and nothing more....

maybe this is a good thing afterall..
Old 07-10-2008 | 05:12 PM
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^I think you are missing something: when they speak about improved throttle response they mean that it eliminates the delay of the electric throttle. With stock throttle response even if you floor it you will definitely see a delay in response. I think this is the weak point Blitz wants to take care of.
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Originally Posted by Noble Wolf
^I think you are missing something: when they speak about improved throttle response they mean that it eliminates the delay of the electric throttle. With stock throttle response even if you floor it you will definitely see a delay in response. I think this is the weak point Blitz wants to take care of.
AH... ok, that makes MUCH more sense...
Old 07-10-2008 | 05:31 PM
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Personally I wouldn't even waste my time installing it if I got one for free. It amazes me the stuff people can market and sell

Throttle lag due to the drive by wire won't be affected by this "magic box" BTW. Not that there is any on the 8 anyway.
Old 07-10-2008 | 05:58 PM
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I once read a nice review of the spirit booster or similar name . it did work but the way it worked was to ramp up the % throttle opening faster than std so it reached fully open faster and had a bigger dead band at the end of the throttle pedal travel. very expensive for not much benefit and some minor negatives.
Old 07-10-2008 | 05:59 PM
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rotary.enthusiast: ok, you can just don't buy one. If you haven't seen the delay in throttle response in the RX8 then probably you haven't driven cars without electric throttle so it looks normal to your eyes. And yes, throttle lag CAN be eliminated by electric devices like this one and if you search about it you will find more info.
Old 07-10-2008 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Noble Wolf
rotary.enthusiast: ok, you can just don't buy one. If you haven't seen the delay in throttle response in the RX8 then probably you haven't driven cars without electric throttle so it looks normal to your eyes. And yes, throttle lag CAN be eliminated by electric devices like this one and if you search about it you will find more info.
You understand that none of the senders actually get replaced by this right? Any latency caused by them will remain... all this does is modifies the output signal so the throttle opens a different amount for the same amount of pedal travel. Mashing the pedal quicker (or not as much in the case of the "economy" setting) would have the exact same effect.
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Originally Posted by rotarenvy
it did work but the way it worked was to ramp up the % throttle opening faster than std so it reached fully open faster and had a bigger dead band at the end of the throttle pedal travel. very expensive for not much benefit and some minor negatives.
this is a much better description of what my initial impressions of what this thing actually does


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You understand that none of the senders actually get replaced by this right? Any latency caused by them will remain... all this does is modifies the output signal so the throttle opens a different amount for the same amount of pedal travel.
along with this, thus my confusion as to why this would be of any real value...?

i also agree with rotary.enthusiast in the sense of "what delay in throttle response"? i mean unless your at very competitive competition levels in drag racing, what difference will a X.XX millisecond increase in throttle response make? You'd be better off investing the money in something that nets 2WHP gain, as that would make you faster anyway....
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Push the throttle 1" and accelerate a bit
Install device, push throttle 1" and accelerate more

Yeah, its just opens the throttle more. Still, the whole *feeling* of it may prove satisfying. Regardless, I'm going to try it some time next week and make up my mind about spending money. Sadly, import car enthusiasm is FILLED with purchasing (nearly) pointless/useless products.
Old 07-10-2008 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by paulmasoner
along with this, thus my confusion as to why this would be of any real value...?

i also agree with rotary.enthusiast in the sense of "what delay in throttle response"? i mean unless your at very competitive competition levels in drag racing, what difference will a X.XX millisecond increase in throttle response make? You'd be better off investing the money in something that nets 2WHP gain, as that would make you faster anyway....
You have never yearned for the feeling of a more sensitive throttle? I suppose its driver preference.

The reason it may provide a faux better throttle response is that in the, lets say, 0-20% throttle range with the device installed it may be the equivilant of 0-40% throttle (depending on setting). Its just a feeling thing I guess...
Old 07-11-2008 | 04:58 PM
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I'm currently on TREC (direct wired to the PCM) and adjusted to the highest setting. Without it, the car felt sluggish when accelerating.
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Yay cant wait :] better throttle response if price seems ok then i wanna get it. i try drifting my rx8, but i cant seem to get the tires spining and my throtle response is so late and very bad timing, good thing i dont need to do some mod like the pros in D1 converting drive by wire to mechanical throttle control. cant wait
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Originally Posted by yokohamaboi
Yay cant wait :] better throttle response if price seems ok then i wanna get it. i try drifting my rx8, but i cant seem to get the tires spining and my throtle response is so late and very bad timing, good thing i dont need to do some mod like the pros in D1 converting drive by wire to mechanical throttle control. cant wait
dont expect this to turn your rx-8 into a mad drift machine yo. no matter how fast you get the throttle wide open, te engine will only ingest so much air so fast.... your not going to make any more power
Old 07-12-2008 | 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by paulmasoner
dont expect this to turn your rx-8 into a mad drift machine yo. no matter how fast you get the throttle wide open, te engine will only ingest so much air so fast.... your not going to make any more power
paul, you continuously overlook the idea that if you do not wish to have the throttle wide open this product offers something. This will make the throttle up to 4 times more sensitive - in other words, it will open the throttle the same amount with 1.5" input as the stock would 6"...

Its not about making the throttle open faster, its moreso to add sensitivity to the input...


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