Brillo & RG NA Interceptor Testing
05-22-2006, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by brillo
He is refering to the ignition coils, which in our car are kinda weak compared to the other RX7's.
Maniac (Jeff) upgraded his ignition with the AEM system (custom work) and was pleased with the results on his turbo car.
Currently, there are no drop in replacement coils, which would be nice.
Maniac (Jeff) upgraded his ignition with the AEM system (custom work) and was pleased with the results on his turbo car.
Currently, there are no drop in replacement coils, which would be nice.
What is the expensive setup from R-Magic is then...
No one here (this board) has tried them yet to my knowledge.
05-24-2006, 12:55 AM
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Question regarding the Microtech software. As I am making changes in real time with the Microtech software, this information is being directly sent to the Int-X and is automatically saved once I press "P" for program right?
The way I understand it is that once I choose to save to a MemCal slot, the changes that I have already made during real time applications are already saved to the Int-X. I am just making a backup copy at that point.
If thats true, this must mean that if I want to go to an older version I must load the -1 version of the memCal that I had previously saved... This is the only way to load an older memCal slot into the Int-X....
Sound about right?
The way I understand it is that once I choose to save to a MemCal slot, the changes that I have already made during real time applications are already saved to the Int-X. I am just making a backup copy at that point.
If thats true, this must mean that if I want to go to an older version I must load the -1 version of the memCal that I had previously saved... This is the only way to load an older memCal slot into the Int-X....
Sound about right?
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05-24-2006, 01:06 AM
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One more thing about the software. I was a little intimidated by the software when Scott was showing it to us because I had never seen it before. Let me just say that after working with it you do have to know something about tuning cars and what to look for, but it's actually not that bad once you jump in.
The real nice feature is that it indicates which map is currently being used to assist you in the tuning process. This has to be one of the nicest compliments to the software that I have seen yet. It is also actively monitoring Water, Air, Load, RPM as well as other parameters to ensure that tuning your car is a safe process. (just as long as you dont take it to the extreme of course).
Very impressive!
Oh.. and brillo, i'll try and post up the screens tomorrow for you.
The real nice feature is that it indicates which map is currently being used to assist you in the tuning process. This has to be one of the nicest compliments to the software that I have seen yet. It is also actively monitoring Water, Air, Load, RPM as well as other parameters to ensure that tuning your car is a safe process. (just as long as you dont take it to the extreme of course).
Very impressive!
Oh.. and brillo, i'll try and post up the screens tomorrow for you.
05-24-2006, 01:19 AM
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He had a REVi before most people did. He was one of RB's beta testers. I wonder who hooked him up with that? 
We installed it when most other people were still speculating as to whether it would ever be released or not. We just weren't allowed to talk about it.
His idle isn't rough. Every once in a while it hiccups. It drives him nuts but most people probably wouldn't even know it was there. I only wish my RX-7 idled as smoothly as his car does stock. That's what we're trying to improve upon too.
We installed it when most other people were still speculating as to whether it would ever be released or not. We just weren't allowed to talk about it.His idle isn't rough. Every once in a while it hiccups. It drives him nuts but most people probably wouldn't even know it was there. I only wish my RX-7 idled as smoothly as his car does stock. That's what we're trying to improve upon too.
05-24-2006, 01:30 AM
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He had a REVi before most people did. He was one of RB's beta testers. I wonder who hooked him up with that? We installed it when most other people were still speculating as to whether it would ever be released or not. We just weren't allowed to talk about it.
His idle isn't rough. Every once in a while it hiccups. It drives him nuts but most people probably wouldn't even know it was there. I only wish my RX-7 idled as smoothly as his car does stock. That's what we're trying to improve upon too.
We installed it when most other people were still speculating as to whether it would ever be released or not. We just weren't allowed to talk about it.His idle isn't rough. Every once in a while it hiccups. It drives him nuts but most people probably wouldn't even know it was there. I only wish my RX-7 idled as smoothly as his car does stock. That's what we're trying to improve upon too.
something i dont do.... engine is dead smooth....
with ac on you get that ac hit = vibration for about 2 sec.... and yes i think it would be solved if you could make it idle at 1k rpm...
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05-24-2006, 08:21 AM
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His idle isn't rough. Every once in a while it hiccups...
05-24-2006, 08:35 AM
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As you make changes on the IntX screen, they are immediatly altered in the Intx itself. Saving to a memcal is essentially making a "backup". To restore a previous tune, you need to save your current settings and then load a different memcal.
05-24-2006, 11:31 AM
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We use memcal1 as the original tune it came with. When we make changes, we save them as memcal2, 3, or 4. Might have a couple of different ones saved that we are playing with. We can always go back to the original this way.
05-24-2006, 12:00 PM
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As far as the idle using the Interceptor, I had an issue with the engine "loping".
It would go up in rpms to 1200 then down to 800 and repeat every so often. This was with the AC off.
I found out (through an anynomous source), that changing the setpoints on the t_rpm map (screen 23) from +20 to +05 on 500rpms and 1000rpms helped greatly.
I don't remember it affecting my AFR. That's always been rich. Stumbles if you try to lean it out like you said.
It would go up in rpms to 1200 then down to 800 and repeat every so often. This was with the AC off.
I found out (through an anynomous source), that changing the setpoints on the t_rpm map (screen 23) from +20 to +05 on 500rpms and 1000rpms helped greatly.
I don't remember it affecting my AFR. That's always been rich. Stumbles if you try to lean it out like you said.
05-24-2006, 11:17 PM
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Hey there Brillo. Here are the files that you wanted.. I do have one more question to ask of all you Int-X owners out there. Do the values on the load map indicate how long the injectors are to stay open at a certain HG value?
Also, why does the Load map go all of the way to 0 HG? At that point the RPMwot map has already kicked in long ago and these values are ignored anyway right?
Thankx..
Also, why does the Load map go all of the way to 0 HG? At that point the RPMwot map has already kicked in long ago and these values are ignored anyway right?
Thankx..
05-25-2006, 10:02 AM
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Awesome Dave, your the man.
Its looks to me like he leaned the idle map, riched the load map and maybe leaned the WOT maps (I can't totally remember those values).
I'm sorta surprised that the cruise maps look to be richened slighty, but that may be a result of the interaction between cruise and load.
So your liking the idle now both with and without a/c? and these maps get you cruising around in the high 14's low 15's? Does that also include cruising around on regular streets (as opposed to highways)?
Its looks to me like he leaned the idle map, riched the load map and maybe leaned the WOT maps (I can't totally remember those values).
I'm sorta surprised that the cruise maps look to be richened slighty, but that may be a result of the interaction between cruise and load.
So your liking the idle now both with and without a/c? and these maps get you cruising around in the high 14's low 15's? Does that also include cruising around on regular streets (as opposed to highways)?
05-25-2006, 10:46 AM
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I know I'm turboed and this is an NA tuning thread, but I have sum ?'s. Well, this goes back to the first page, but I have those exact same idle problems w/ emanage. How can I add fuel, since it's now running at 15-16 at idle. I also have the same A/C problems at idle. My temporary fix is just to hold the revs at like 1500-2000 to smoth out the idle when the A/C is on. Any ideas??
05-25-2006, 12:00 PM
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These maps that I showed you have been slightly modified since I met with Scott. The RPMcrs map has been updated to add more fuel as rpm's increase.
You'll be surprised at how long the RPMcrs map is used even as acceleration increases. I felt that this map will be the most important to me because I spend most of the time here. Before the AFR's were getting into the 16/17 area at above 4,000 rpm and now they remain consisntently at 14 all the way up to 7,000. I do experience a slight hesitation above this level, but I realistically would never be cruising around at that high of rpm so it wont really effect daily driving.
I took a slight hit on highway driving though but I think it's worth it because cruising around the streets is much more!! smooth now.. My afr's on the highway pre-tune were 15.5 to 16 and now they are 13.9 to 14.5.. I think that the drivability trade off is well worth it.
My idle is perfect and the throttle pickup as rpm's begin to decrease under a decel operation are perfect!!
nice!
Can someone please address my question though.. Or maybe your not sure like I am.. Why would there be a hg value on the Load map for a wide open throttle situation when that is handled on the RPMwot map?
Any ideas?
You'll be surprised at how long the RPMcrs map is used even as acceleration increases. I felt that this map will be the most important to me because I spend most of the time here. Before the AFR's were getting into the 16/17 area at above 4,000 rpm and now they remain consisntently at 14 all the way up to 7,000. I do experience a slight hesitation above this level, but I realistically would never be cruising around at that high of rpm so it wont really effect daily driving.
I took a slight hit on highway driving though but I think it's worth it because cruising around the streets is much more!! smooth now.. My afr's on the highway pre-tune were 15.5 to 16 and now they are 13.9 to 14.5.. I think that the drivability trade off is well worth it.
My idle is perfect and the throttle pickup as rpm's begin to decrease under a decel operation are perfect!!
nice!
Can someone please address my question though.. Or maybe your not sure like I am.. Why would there be a hg value on the Load map for a wide open throttle situation when that is handled on the RPMwot map?
Any ideas?