CanZoomer Stage 1 PCM Mod - Info/Questions/Results
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Originally posted by RX8 fever
Because this is a Canzoomer's project. Is hearsay because is coming from the designated,helper (I guess) PR person.
Its like this: I'm doing a project but if I'm running into problems, I'll send the little guy to distract them for a little while. Trying to put down a forest fire with an 1 inch hose.
Because this is a Canzoomer's project. Is hearsay because is coming from the designated,helper (I guess) PR person.
Its like this: I'm doing a project but if I'm running into problems, I'll send the little guy to distract them for a little while. Trying to put down a forest fire with an 1 inch hose.
#202
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Originally posted by RX8 fever
Hello, Hello, anybody home?. That statement is ridiculous.
That's all hearsay.
Hello, Hello, anybody home?. That statement is ridiculous.
That's all hearsay.
worse comes to worse, have a colleague answer emails or post a status report here knowing very well ppl are anxious
As has been mentioned many, many times - this RX-8 ECU mod is a sideline for canzoomer, he has a much larger business with many employees to run.
Originally posted by brothervoodoo
I don't want to derail the post too much but a good example is Gordo above. He basically shat all over canzoomer, insulted him and look now, one of his biggest supporters!
I don't want to derail the post too much but a good example is Gordo above. He basically shat all over canzoomer, insulted him and look now, one of his biggest supporters!
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Remember, Maurice had his solution months ago, since then the work has been to develop a commercial offering for the rest of us. If enough of us complain, maybe he'll just drop it and enjoy life instead of having to put up with all the whining! Then we can all go and buy... what? Sorry, nobody else, not the established rotary aftermarket vendors or any other independent, has a marketable, proven, tested solution anywhere close to ready. Nobody.
RX-8 fever, are you interested in taking on a project as a sideline, giving up all your spare time outside of your very busy day job, and invest tens of thousands of dollars of your own money in equipment and components to offer a competitive solution for less than $750? I'll buy it if you will! Oh, but I won't pay you a penny until you're shipping all the units, properly tested, documented, and be sure to promptly answer my and the hundreds of other e-mails you receive daily asking for detailed technical information.
In plain words - I think canzoomer deserves a little slack, especially when the delays from the estimated ship dates are to implement final improvements to the product and documentation.
Regards,
Gordon
#203
Well said Gordo. 'Zoomer is a perfectionist and will ensure that his product is top notch before sending it out. He is an honest and trustworthy individual and is a definite asset to all of us. Appreciate his efforts. Canzoomer is KING!!
#207
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Originally posted by Maniac
Well, except me.
Maybe you missed that one.
Well, except me.
Maybe you missed that one.
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Regards,
Gordon
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Originally posted by Gord96BRG
I didn't think you were anywhere close to selling a kit yet - I thought you were closer to where Maurice was about 3 months ago, when he had finished evaluating his ECU box and was finalizing tuning parameters. Are you doing plug in harness connectors etc. as well?
Regards,
Gordon
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Regards,
Gordon
You simply said a "marketable, proven, tested solution".
That is exactly what I have found.
It is already marketed by Greddy.
I've tested it and proven that it works.
What you are paying for and waiting on with Maurice's solution is packaging.
If you want results, they are already available if you are willing to put in the labor.
Right now.
$400.
http://www.mohdparts.com/emanage/index.html
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Originally posted by Gord96BRG
In plain words - I think canzoomer deserves a little slack, especially when the delays from the estimated ship dates are to implement final improvements to the product and documentation.
Regards,
Gordon
Agree
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Ya know, were it me developing this, and I was coming down the final stretch to shipping the units, I would IGNORE this board and all the many threads where people were asking questions UNTIL I GOT THE UNITS OUT THE DOOR. That would be my top priority.
Maurice is the real deal, and I'm certain everyone who has ponied up will have their units soon.
Give the guy a break, this unit is worth the wait.
Maurice is the real deal, and I'm certain everyone who has ponied up will have their units soon.
Give the guy a break, this unit is worth the wait.
#211
I received an email from Maurice (CanZoomer) this morning. Not lengthy but good to here from him none the less.
With regards to your message at 08:55 AM 12/29/03, Todd Gallemore. Where you stated:
Maurice- I just sent $525 via PayPal for a stage 1. Please confirm receipt of same. Is estimated shipping still 3rd week of January?
Thanks,
Yes , thanks Todd.
We will notify you a few days before it ships.
With our best regards,
Maurice W. Hilarius Telephone: 01-780-456-9771
Hard Data Ltd. FAX: 01-780-456-9772
11060 - 166 Avenue mailto:maurice@harddata.com
Edmonton, AB, Canada http://www.harddata.com/
T5X 1Y3
~...HAPPY HOLIDAYS !...~
Maurice- I just sent $525 via PayPal for a stage 1. Please confirm receipt of same. Is estimated shipping still 3rd week of January?
Thanks,
Yes , thanks Todd.
We will notify you a few days before it ships.
With our best regards,
Maurice W. Hilarius Telephone: 01-780-456-9771
Hard Data Ltd. FAX: 01-780-456-9772
11060 - 166 Avenue mailto:maurice@harddata.com
Edmonton, AB, Canada http://www.harddata.com/
T5X 1Y3
~...HAPPY HOLIDAYS !...~
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Greddy unit?
Maniac - I couldn't find anything RX-8 related on that link -at Greddy's site all I could find was an exhaust system. I couldn't find a search, and under new items there were no RX-8 items.
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Re: Greddy unit?
Originally posted by rx8daniel
Maniac - I couldn't find anything RX-8 related on that link -at Greddy's site all I could find was an exhaust system. I couldn't find a search, and under new items there were no RX-8 items.
Maniac - I couldn't find anything RX-8 related on that link -at Greddy's site all I could find was an exhaust system. I couldn't find a search, and under new items there were no RX-8 items.
Maniac, I guess I was referring to a plug'n'play solution to get the 'missing' HP back. Yeah, programmable solutions are available, but for the average owner who buys an intake, exhaust, etc. and isn't familiar with tuning a programmable ECU and wants a quick plug-in solution for the over-rich problem, the Canzoomer mod is the only one close to being available.
Regards,
Gordon
#216
Re: Re: Greddy unit?
Originally posted by Gord96BRG
...the Canzoomer mod is the only one close to being available.
Regards,
Gordon
...the Canzoomer mod is the only one close to being available.
Regards,
Gordon
#217
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Re: Re: Re: Greddy unit?
Originally posted by kingcar
This is a very broad statement do you know everyone who could produce and market such a device and they have told you this?
This is a very broad statement do you know everyone who could produce and market such a device and they have told you this?
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I know there are others in the works; Racing Beat and Paul Yaw of Yawpower are just two that have indicated they are working on similar ECU mods. How close are they to being available? As far as we know - not very close, since no ship dates or availability dates have been announced.
If YOU know of any similar plug-in ECU mod that is close to being available, then by all means please share your information! The more choices, the better for all of us.
Regards,
Gordon
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Re: Re: Greddy unit?
Originally posted by Gord96BRG
I think he's referring to the generic E-Manage unit, which he has installed in his RX-8. IIRC, Maurice used the same or a very similar unit when he first started investigating the ECU tuning.
Maniac, I guess I was referring to a plug'n'play solution to get the 'missing' HP back. Yeah, programmable solutions are available, but for the average owner who buys an intake, exhaust, etc. and isn't familiar with tuning a programmable ECU and wants a quick plug-in solution for the over-rich problem, the Canzoomer mod is the only one close to being available.
Regards,
Gordon
I think he's referring to the generic E-Manage unit, which he has installed in his RX-8. IIRC, Maurice used the same or a very similar unit when he first started investigating the ECU tuning.
Maniac, I guess I was referring to a plug'n'play solution to get the 'missing' HP back. Yeah, programmable solutions are available, but for the average owner who buys an intake, exhaust, etc. and isn't familiar with tuning a programmable ECU and wants a quick plug-in solution for the over-rich problem, the Canzoomer mod is the only one close to being available.
Regards,
Gordon
You could be driving it around before the end of the week.
If you prefer, I can get it all for you and send it over.
#219
Re: Re: Re: Greddy unit?
Originally posted by Maniac
Well, buy the unit, follow my instructions and use my maps and there you have it.
You could be driving it around before the end of the week.
If you prefer, I can get it all for you and send it over.
Well, buy the unit, follow my instructions and use my maps and there you have it.
You could be driving it around before the end of the week.
If you prefer, I can get it all for you and send it over.
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Maurice doesn't deserve all this negativity.
Come on, give the guy a break. I've ordered from him, and trust him more than any other place I've ordered from. He's obviously doing this for everyone interest in the RX-8. The negativity by a few people on this forum with respect to delays, etc can be expected. But still, Maurice doesn't have to do this, and is going pretty far out of his way to help all of us out. I consider that to be a personal favour, and he deserves a lot of credit for the work he is doing, and all of the orders he is manually, and personally filling.
He's got a great product that everyone wants for their RX-8, and rather than deliver a less than perfect mod, he has the good judgement to do it right.
My Hat goes off for you Maurice!
Regards,
OverLOAD
Come on, give the guy a break. I've ordered from him, and trust him more than any other place I've ordered from. He's obviously doing this for everyone interest in the RX-8. The negativity by a few people on this forum with respect to delays, etc can be expected. But still, Maurice doesn't have to do this, and is going pretty far out of his way to help all of us out. I consider that to be a personal favour, and he deserves a lot of credit for the work he is doing, and all of the orders he is manually, and personally filling.
He's got a great product that everyone wants for their RX-8, and rather than deliver a less than perfect mod, he has the good judgement to do it right.
My Hat goes off for you Maurice!
Regards,
OverLOAD
#222
i already bought CZ's Stage 1 and i'm not going back on that...i'm merely asking Maniac how his process is going and how good the Greddy emanage is since i've never touched one...all i've ever done in the past was the i/h/e, nothing else so i'm a complete newb when it comes to this type of modification and i just want to learn...i know i'll never buy a fully programmable ecu and program myself, at least until i actually use one (CZ's) and then start learning from there
#223
Re: Re: Re: Re: Greddy unit?
Originally posted by Gord96BRG
Sigh. No, I don't. I do monitor and participate in this forum daily, however, and I would expect that if ANYONE else had something similar on the market now for the RX-8, either they would be posting it on this forum or someone would be posting it on this forum. That's reasonable, isn't it? If this forum hasn't heard of something available for the RX-8, then either there isn't anything available or else the person doing the marketing is doing an extremely poor job!![Wink](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/wink.gif)
I know there are others in the works; Racing Beat and Paul Yaw of Yawpower are just two that have indicated they are working on similar ECU mods. How close are they to being available? As far as we know - not very close, since no ship dates or availability dates have been announced.
If YOU know of any similar plug-in ECU mod that is close to being available, then by all means please share your information! The more choices, the better for all of us.
Regards,
Gordon
Sigh. No, I don't. I do monitor and participate in this forum daily, however, and I would expect that if ANYONE else had something similar on the market now for the RX-8, either they would be posting it on this forum or someone would be posting it on this forum. That's reasonable, isn't it? If this forum hasn't heard of something available for the RX-8, then either there isn't anything available or else the person doing the marketing is doing an extremely poor job!
![Wink](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/wink.gif)
I know there are others in the works; Racing Beat and Paul Yaw of Yawpower are just two that have indicated they are working on similar ECU mods. How close are they to being available? As far as we know - not very close, since no ship dates or availability dates have been announced.
If YOU know of any similar plug-in ECU mod that is close to being available, then by all means please share your information! The more choices, the better for all of us.
Regards,
Gordon
I agree that if something else was on the market that it would have been posted here. I was merely stating that just because companies haven’t said that they are working on it or are close to release doesn’t mean that they don’t have something. Many companies like to keep things quite until they hit the market.
#225
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OK, lots of flame so here goes:
1) We are busy building units, shipping, testing etc.
2) Over Christmas holidays I took some time to renovate our office. Removed everyhting, ripped out floors, etc, re-did floor, some wiring, moved servers, and so on. Ran into some renovation snags, finally got desks, computers, etc. back in place Tuesday.
Now catching up on over a week of missed email, postings, etc.
Also tried to have a holiday, with little success.
3) Received a LOT of orders, more than we frankly expected, working on more people, more parts, more facility to build.
4) Cost wise we make about $60 a unit at $500.
That is too little, but we can live with the fact that we promised this to the original people who expressed interest.
This is one reason we raised the price.
5) Other reason we raised the price is a lot of dealers and tuners want to buy and sell our products, and they expect/need a wholesale discount on volume orders. They need to make a few bucks too. Now we can do that.
6) At last part of development changed design one last time to fit in ECU enclosure, re-ordered wire assembly cables, for now we are building by hand here. Takes 2 to 3 man-hours a unit. In about a week we will have lots of pre-built harnesses from Hong Kong, and then our time per unit is down to about an hour.
7) Received about 700 orders. That means we had to invest about $300,000 to buld these. While we have wholesale accounts with some suppliers, others we have to pay in advance. Simply to finance this we HAD to get some orders paid. Now we are in pretty good shape.
Thanks for the good faith, support and some time, we are slowly getting everything in place. All of a sudden we are delaing with order processing on a massive scale, expectations of web sites, ( got domain registered, working on website) expectations of 7 hundred individuals asking questions all at once, expectations of dyno results. Now have the Dynojet runs done, and some charts are being posted here on the forum.
This WAS supposed to be a hobby sideline.
It has grown a bit.
However we still have our regular jobs, business, families, and lives to live.
We are moving as fast as humanly possible.
If anyone is serously concerned feel free to call me.
In the meantime, those who are involved, and who know me, have been answering a bit, and if you think this is some kind of massive conspiracy you have a lot more imagination than me!
1) We are busy building units, shipping, testing etc.
2) Over Christmas holidays I took some time to renovate our office. Removed everyhting, ripped out floors, etc, re-did floor, some wiring, moved servers, and so on. Ran into some renovation snags, finally got desks, computers, etc. back in place Tuesday.
Now catching up on over a week of missed email, postings, etc.
Also tried to have a holiday, with little success.
3) Received a LOT of orders, more than we frankly expected, working on more people, more parts, more facility to build.
4) Cost wise we make about $60 a unit at $500.
That is too little, but we can live with the fact that we promised this to the original people who expressed interest.
This is one reason we raised the price.
5) Other reason we raised the price is a lot of dealers and tuners want to buy and sell our products, and they expect/need a wholesale discount on volume orders. They need to make a few bucks too. Now we can do that.
6) At last part of development changed design one last time to fit in ECU enclosure, re-ordered wire assembly cables, for now we are building by hand here. Takes 2 to 3 man-hours a unit. In about a week we will have lots of pre-built harnesses from Hong Kong, and then our time per unit is down to about an hour.
7) Received about 700 orders. That means we had to invest about $300,000 to buld these. While we have wholesale accounts with some suppliers, others we have to pay in advance. Simply to finance this we HAD to get some orders paid. Now we are in pretty good shape.
Thanks for the good faith, support and some time, we are slowly getting everything in place. All of a sudden we are delaing with order processing on a massive scale, expectations of web sites, ( got domain registered, working on website) expectations of 7 hundred individuals asking questions all at once, expectations of dyno results. Now have the Dynojet runs done, and some charts are being posted here on the forum.
This WAS supposed to be a hobby sideline.
It has grown a bit.
However we still have our regular jobs, business, families, and lives to live.
We are moving as fast as humanly possible.
If anyone is serously concerned feel free to call me.
In the meantime, those who are involved, and who know me, have been answering a bit, and if you think this is some kind of massive conspiracy you have a lot more imagination than me!
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