jonalan

So, you're familiar with corporate America!?!

Gord96BRG

Ridiculous how? My post was a direct response to BRx8 (not to you), who suggested . I pointed out that this is already happening. Hearsay? Hardly! As you've already been informed, RX-8 friend is directly involved in assembling the kits. You're not alone in wanting information - what would you prefer, for canzoomer to spend his 4 free hours per day answering e-mails, or working out the final details of the kit so that it can actually ship soon?

As has been mentioned many, many times - this RX-8 ECU mod is a sideline for canzoomer, he has a much larger business with many employees to run.

Yeah, back in the days when canzoomer was going to return his RX-8 and get an Audi TT, we had our differences of opinion! :p I've said it since then, and I have no problem saying it again, I really admire Maurice for deciding to stick with the RX-8 and put in this incredible amount of time and effort to address the ECU shortcoming, and then to offer it to others as well.

Remember, Maurice had his solution months ago, since then the work has been to develop a commercial offering for the rest of us. If enough of us complain, maybe he'll just drop it and enjoy life instead of having to put up with all the whining! Then we can all go and buy... what? Sorry, nobody else, not the established rotary aftermarket vendors or any other independent, has a marketable, proven, tested solution anywhere close to ready. Nobody.

RX-8 fever, are you interested in taking on a project as a sideline, giving up all your spare time outside of your very busy day job, and invest tens of thousands of dollars of your own money in equipment and components to offer a competitive solution for less than $750? I'll buy it if you will! Oh, but I won't pay you a penny until you're shipping all the units, properly tested, documented, and be sure to promptly answer my and the hundreds of other e-mails you receive daily asking for detailed technical information.

In plain words - I think canzoomer deserves a little slack, especially when the delays from the estimated ship dates are to implement final improvements to the product and documentation.

Regards,
Gordon

TiRX8

Well said Gordo. 'Zoomer is a perfectionist and will ensure that his product is top notch before sending it out. He is an honest and trustworthy individual and is a definite asset to all of us. Appreciate his efforts. Canzoomer is KING!!

MazdaManiac

iTrader: (3)

Well, except me.
Maybe you missed that one.

Doug DeBug

compaddict

Now that's funny!

Vince

Gord96BRG

I didn't think you were anywhere close to selling a kit yet - I thought you were closer to where Maurice was about 3 months ago, when he had finished evaluating his ECU box and was finalizing tuning parameters. Are you doing plug in harness connectors etc. as well?

Regards,
Gordon

MazdaManiac

iTrader: (3)

You didn't qualify it that way.
You simply said a "marketable, proven, tested solution".
That is exactly what I have found.
It is already marketed by Greddy.
I've tested it and proven that it works.

What you are paying for and waiting on with Maurice's solution is packaging.
If you want results, they are already available if you are willing to put in the labor.
Right now.
$400.
http://www.mohdparts.com/emanage/index.html

RX8 fever

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Originally posted by Gord96BRG

In plain words - I think canzoomer deserves a little slack, especially when the delays from the estimated ship dates are to implement final improvements to the product and documentation.

Regards,
Gordon


Agree

Omicron

Ya know, were it me developing this, and I was coming down the final stretch to shipping the units, I would IGNORE this board and all the many threads where people were asking questions UNTIL I GOT THE UNITS OUT THE DOOR. That would be my top priority.

Maurice is the real deal, and I'm certain everyone who has ponied up will have their units soon.

Give the guy a break, this unit is worth the wait.

HottRodder

I received an email from Maurice (CanZoomer) this morning. Not lengthy but good to here from him none the less.

BRx8

my email from Maurice this morning stated an ETA of January 30th...

rx8daniel

the email I received this morning acknowledged receipt of my order.

rx8daniel

Maniac - I couldn't find anything RX-8 related on that link -at Greddy's site all I could find was an exhaust system. I couldn't find a search, and under new items there were no RX-8 items.

Gord96BRG

I think he's referring to the generic E-Manage unit, which he has installed in his RX-8. IIRC, Maurice used the same or a very similar unit when he first started investigating the ECU tuning.

Maniac, I guess I was referring to a plug'n'play solution to get the 'missing' HP back. Yeah, programmable solutions are available, but for the average owner who buys an intake, exhaust, etc. and isn't familiar with tuning a programmable ECU and wants a quick plug-in solution for the over-rich problem, the Canzoomer mod is the only one close to being available.

Regards,
Gordon

kingcar

This is a very broad statement do you know everyone who could produce and market such a device and they have told you this?

Gord96BRG

Sigh. No, I don't. I do monitor and participate in this forum daily, however, and I would expect that if ANYONE else had something similar on the market now for the RX-8, either they would be posting it on this forum or someone would be posting it on this forum. That's reasonable, isn't it? If this forum hasn't heard of something available for the RX-8, then either there isn't anything available or else the person doing the marketing is doing an extremely poor job!

I know there are others in the works; Racing Beat and Paul Yaw of Yawpower are just two that have indicated they are working on similar ECU mods. How close are they to being available? As far as we know - not very close, since no ship dates or availability dates have been announced.

If YOU know of any similar plug-in ECU mod that is close to being available, then by all means please share your information! The more choices, the better for all of us.

Regards,
Gordon

MazdaManiac

iTrader: (3)

Well, buy the unit, follow my instructions and use my maps and there you have it.
You could be driving it around before the end of the week.
If you prefer, I can get it all for you and send it over.

BRx8

Maniac, how far are you in creating your own maps and how much HP do you think you can pull out of your e-manage and RX-8 safely?

OverLOAD

Maurice doesn't deserve all this negativity.

Come on, give the guy a break. I've ordered from him, and trust him more than any other place I've ordered from. He's obviously doing this for everyone interest in the RX-8. The negativity by a few people on this forum with respect to delays, etc can be expected. But still, Maurice doesn't have to do this, and is going pretty far out of his way to help all of us out. I consider that to be a personal favour, and he deserves a lot of credit for the work he is doing, and all of the orders he is manually, and personally filling.

He's got a great product that everyone wants for their RX-8, and rather than deliver a less than perfect mod, he has the good judgement to do it right.

My Hat goes off for you Maurice!

Regards,

OverLOAD

SA22C

Not only does canzoomer not deserve all this flak, he doesn't deserve someone posting their products in his forum.

BRx8

i already bought CZ's Stage 1 and i'm not going back on that...i'm merely asking Maniac how his process is going and how good the Greddy emanage is since i've never touched one...all i've ever done in the past was the i/h/e, nothing else so i'm a complete newb when it comes to this type of modification and i just want to learn...i know i'll never buy a fully programmable ecu and program myself, at least until i actually use one (CZ's) and then start learning from there

kingcar

I agree that if something else was on the market that it would have been posted here. I was merely stating that just because companies haven’t said that they are working on it or are close to release doesn’t mean that they don’t have something. Many companies like to keep things quite until they hit the market.

Genom

BTW, I posted a dyno plot from canzoomer. More to come!

canzoomer

OK, lots of flame so here goes:

1) We are busy building units, shipping, testing etc.

2) Over Christmas holidays I took some time to renovate our office. Removed everyhting, ripped out floors, etc, re-did floor, some wiring, moved servers, and so on. Ran into some renovation snags, finally got desks, computers, etc. back in place Tuesday.
Now catching up on over a week of missed email, postings, etc.
Also tried to have a holiday, with little success.

3) Received a LOT of orders, more than we frankly expected, working on more people, more parts, more facility to build.

4) Cost wise we make about $60 a unit at $500.
That is too little, but we can live with the fact that we promised this to the original people who expressed interest.
This is one reason we raised the price.

5) Other reason we raised the price is a lot of dealers and tuners want to buy and sell our products, and they expect/need a wholesale discount on volume orders. They need to make a few bucks too. Now we can do that.

6) At last part of development changed design one last time to fit in ECU enclosure, re-ordered wire assembly cables, for now we are building by hand here. Takes 2 to 3 man-hours a unit. In about a week we will have lots of pre-built harnesses from Hong Kong, and then our time per unit is down to about an hour.

7) Received about 700 orders. That means we had to invest about $300,000 to buld these. While we have wholesale accounts with some suppliers, others we have to pay in advance. Simply to finance this we HAD to get some orders paid. Now we are in pretty good shape.

Thanks for the good faith, support and some time, we are slowly getting everything in place. All of a sudden we are delaing with order processing on a massive scale, expectations of web sites, ( got domain registered, working on website) expectations of 7 hundred individuals asking questions all at once, expectations of dyno results. Now have the Dynojet runs done, and some charts are being posted here on the forum.

This WAS supposed to be a hobby sideline.
It has grown a bit.

However we still have our regular jobs, business, families, and lives to live.

We are moving as fast as humanly possible.

If anyone is serously concerned feel free to call me.
In the meantime, those who are involved, and who know me, have been answering a bit, and if you think this is some kind of massive conspiracy you have a lot more imagination than me!