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Old 12-11-2008 | 07:27 PM
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power to the injectors?
Old 12-11-2008 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Easy_E1
I really doubted it to be the coils.

update 2:


E is a fanboi
Old 12-11-2008 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Easy_E1
I really doubted it to be the coils.
Now what have you done that you haven't put back together right?
The only thing I did wrong was connect the fuel line to the evap line and evap to the fuel injectors.
Old 12-11-2008 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by zoom44
power to the injectors?
The fuse is good. How else can I confirm injecors have power?
Old 12-11-2008 | 07:40 PM
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put the mazsport coils back on! zomg, Scott was right this WHOLE time!!!
(Sorry, couldn't resist)


Lets start over here:
what exactly does the car do? just cranks and no fire?
Old 12-11-2008 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Jedi54
Lets start over here:
what exactly does the car do? just cranks and no fire?
Yep.

Then when I pull apart the fuel connection there is a huge pressure build-up. I would imagine if I cranked it long enough it would blow itself apart.
Old 12-11-2008 | 07:52 PM
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ok maf and tps all plugged up
ignition is ok
2 things i can think off you can try
1- just fill the tips of the leading sparkplugs with gas--reinstall them and she if she tries to start
2- length of small plastic hose and a big old syringe --stick it up the fuel line to the engine and see if you suck anything out --probably not but remote possibility the engine vacuum sucked something out of the purge line?
all the injectors could not have gone bad at once.
when you 1st tried to crank it it did not fire correct?
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Old 12-11-2008 | 07:56 PM
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oh i remembered one more thing--try also pulling the fuel pump fuse and then crank the car--course it wont crank--but if there is blockage then the pressure would not be released and she would still spray on disconnect
be carefull around all this gas man.
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Originally Posted by olddragger
ok maf and tps all plugged up
ignition is ok
2 things i can think off you can try
1- just fill the tips of the leading sparkplugs with gas--reinstall them and she if she tries to start
2- length of small plastic hose and a big old syringe --stick it up the fuel line to the engine and see if you suck anything out --probably not but remote possibility the engine vacuum sucked something out of the purge line?
all the injectors could not have gone bad at once.
OD
Those things would be interesting to try.

Originally Posted by olddragger
when you 1st tried to crank it it did not fire correct?
Correct.
Old 12-11-2008 | 07:59 PM
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Jedi is a fanboi??? WTH?? haha anyways are u sure not fuel lines are crushed/kinked past that connector?? if you are getting pressur there but can't get it the rest of the way through there has to b something with the line from the connector on! I also say check the plugs for spark and see how it is...

does it ever "try" to start or just crank crank crank...never a half *** start???
Old 12-11-2008 | 08:00 PM
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Any CEL"S? You did something that has things FUBARRED

Go back to square one and think about everything you did.....

If it has spark...then you need to figure what you did to screw up the fuel system...cause putting the connectors on backwards shouldn't do much...might cause a emissions leak...but other than a CEL it should still start.

Did you disconnect a ground by accident? or blow a fuse...those are the most likely things
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Originally Posted by 04RX8man
Jedi is a fanboi??? WTH?? haha anyways are u sure not fuel lines are crushed/kinked past that connector?? if you are getting pressur there but can't get it the rest of the way through there has to b something with the line from the connector on! I also say check the plugs for spark and see how it is...

does it ever "try" to start or just crank crank crank...never a half *** start???
My next step will be removing the upper intake to see if i can find a problem anywhere.

It does not try to start... not even a half start. Just crank crank crank
Old 12-11-2008 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by dannobre
Any CEL"S? You did something that has things FUBARRED

Go back to square one and think about everything you did.....

If it has spark...then you need to figure what you did to screw up the fuel system...cause putting the connectors on backwards shouldn't do much...might cause a emissions leak...but other than a CEL it should still start.

Did you disconnect a ground by accident? or blow a fuse...those are the most likely things
I do not get any CEL.

I always disconnect the battery before i mess with anything. I did have to disconnect the ground to remove the mazsport coils wiring harness but I triple checked that connection and its solid.

I checked the fuel fuse and it's fine.
Old 12-11-2008 | 08:08 PM
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yeah i would say it has to b somwhere from that connector to the intake manifold on the fuel line..... that is if the spark is ok......maybe it is a combination of both no fuel/no spark.....
Old 12-11-2008 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 04RX8man
yeah i would say it has to b somwhere from that connector to the intake manifold on the fuel line..... that is if the spark is ok......maybe it is a combination of both no fuel/no spark.....
I will test for spark before I take the intake apart.
Old 12-11-2008 | 08:11 PM
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You will have high pressure in the fuel line when the pump has run...that is normal...you shouldn't have pressure in the evap line...undo that and let it drain...

then hook it back up.

That shouldn't cause you a problem.....I don't think that the evap will not let the car run..

If you have a code reader see if you have any codes..or pending ones

Doesn't make sense that it is anything to difficult unless you shorted out something and possibly fried your ECU. Do you have any funny dash lights?? Check and see if the security light is on...( lower right side of the left gauge cluster in the dash ) You may have erased you PATS codes in the module..although it usually won't crank if that is the case??

SOrry red your response after finishing this
Old 12-11-2008 | 08:12 PM
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Maybe it's just too damn cold in Ottawa
Old 12-11-2008 | 08:31 PM
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you just need to shake the distributor cap.....itll fire right up.....duh!!!





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Old 12-11-2008 | 08:34 PM
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from the manual...



No battery power supply to PCM
• Open PCM GND or vehicle body GND
• Air cleaner restriction
• Air leakage from intake-air system
•Vacuum leakage
• Improper operation of drive-by-wire control system
• Drive-by-wire control system operates in fail-safe mode (abnormal accelerator
position and TP signal to PCM)
Poor fuel quality
• Open or short circuit in fuel pump body and related wiring harness
• Inadequate fuel pressure
•Fuel pump relay malfunction (stuck open)
• Fuel pump mechanical malfunction
• Pressure regulator (integrated in fuel pump unit) malfunction
• Fuel injector malfunction (leakage, clogging, improper injection amount)
• Open or short in fuel injector control signal circuit
•\ Purge solenoid valve malfunction (stuck open)
• Restriction in exhaust system
•Disconnected electrical connector
•No signal from eccentric shaft position sensor, related wiring harness or incorrect

installation
Improper air/fuel ratio control at starting (abnormal ECT signal to PCM)
APP sensor malfunction (de-chock control operating due to abnormal accelerator
position signal to PCM)

Low engine compression

Engine internal malfunction
Abnormal engine oil condition (viscosity, deterioration)
Low oil pressure
Excessive fuel pressure
Air mixed in oil line
Metering oil pump malfunction
• Leakage or clogging in oil pipe
• Leakage or clogging in oil nozzle
Engine overheating
• Spark leakage from high-tension leads
Spark plug malfunction
• Ignition coil malfunction
• Immobilizer system and/or circuit malfunction
• Immobilizer system operates properly (Key is not registered.)
Old 12-11-2008 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by zoom44
update 1 :

Jedi is a fanboi
hahaha
Old 12-12-2008 | 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by zoom44
update 2:


E is a fanboi
I'm my own Fanboi! Is that possible? Hellz yez it iz! BHRFTMFW!
Old 12-12-2008 | 04:34 AM
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Well my car is now alive!!!

The first thing I did was test spark and it was perfect. Then I decided to remove the upper intake manifold and blow out all the fuel that was in the solenoid. I am shocked how much fuel was in the sucker.

I put the intake back together and tried to start the car. BINGO!!! I then replaced the OEM coils with the BHR coils and its running perfectly. Woot!!

I wanna personally thank everyone that helped me out.
Old 12-12-2008 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by turborx8
Well my car is now alive!!!

The first thing I did was test spark and it was perfect. Then I decided to remove the upper intake manifold and blow out all the fuel that was in the solenoid. I am shocked how much fuel was in the sucker.

I put the intake back together and tried to start the car. BINGO!!! I then replaced the OEM coils with the BHR coils and its running perfectly. Woot!!

I wanna personally thank everyone that helped me out.
I'm glad you finally found the issue.
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