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Old 07-12-2006 | 03:40 AM
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which ECU is best?

I've been searching around to see what you guys think bout the greddy emanage, the interceptor X, and the Canzoomer. I Kno the greddy is the least expensive and read that th interceptor X is most likely the best and the canzoomer has gotten a lot of great respons too but wat is the real difference between the 3? i want to get the X but i dont want to spend $1600 on something when i can spend $500 and they do just bout the samething. i dont know, i would like to hear your opinions
Old 07-12-2006 | 03:52 AM
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In my opinion the Interceptor-X is the best hands down. If you want to trick the ECU get the Greddy/Canzoomer, if you want to take control over the ECU, get the Interceptor-X.

You get what you pay for.
Old 07-12-2006 | 03:58 AM
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There is also the E-Manage Ultimate which is turning to be very interesting in the last firmware version.
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Old 07-12-2006 | 07:44 AM
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Where is Mugatu when you need him? Out of your list, the Int-X is the best. But you may also want to take a look at the Emanage Ultimate. You may also want to try searching too.
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It depends a great deal on the appliciation. You didn't say if you're going to be going FI or staying NA.
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If you are staying NA, wait. Racing Beat is coming out with a ecu flash which will be your best bet.
Old 07-12-2006 | 12:08 PM
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This is a subjective question. Which one is "best" all depends on your needs, abilities, and price range. If you want a 400 hp monster I'd say go with the Interceptor. If you want to stay nonturbo and spend a few hundred dollars but have no tuning ability then I'd say go with the RB flash. If you have no problems following instructions and wiring up an ecu from scratch and can create your own maps, the emanage ultimate might be your way to go.

I am not a fan of the standard emanage at all or the Canzoomer. They are products whose time has come and gone.

Do you have an ecu tuning experience? You need to know the basics of what happens with different aspects of tuning. It isn't hard to learn but don't underestimate it.

Do you need a plug and play solution or can you create part of your own wiring harness?

How much power are you going for?

Answer these few questions and we'll help you make a better decision, obviously opinion based of course. Only you can truly know what is best for you.
Old 07-12-2006 | 12:34 PM
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Old 07-12-2006 | 12:40 PM
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Thanks! Too bad I can't seem to make any money at it!
Old 07-12-2006 | 12:48 PM
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I would also agree that the E-Manage ultimate is showing promise as well it just was not included in the list. RotaryGod said it best though. It all depends upon what level of tuning your trying to achieve related to how much time and effort you want to spend on this.
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If you have no problems following instructions and wiring up an ecu from scratch and can create your own maps, the emanage ultimate might be your way to go.
That's a non issue with the Ultimate at this point in time. Greddy now sells the Ultimate with all their RX-8 turbos. They also sell an upgrade kit (ultimate + harness and manifold blocker) that works out of the box without any wire cutting. And if that doesn't suit you, there are at least two other companies that I've found who do custom ultimate harness for the RX-8.
Old 07-12-2006 | 01:33 PM
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I was basically referring to the people who want to use it for n/a reasons. They'll need to create a map. It's cool if they can get a harness and a base map but of course it will only be for the Greddy turbo and no others as the requirements are never the same.
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Yeah... the funny thing is that it's cheaper to buy the greddy ultimate upgrade kit for NA use, than it is to get the ultimate and buy a 3rd party harness. $620 for the upgrade kit, vs $500 for ultimate + $200 for harness.

Either way it will need to be tuned. Go go greddy auto tuner!
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That $620 price is only good for another couple of weeks. Then it goes up to $850.
Also, the auto-tune only goes so far and you need to know how to set it up for it to be of any use. Its not some kind of set-and-forget tuning wizard.
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Mohd told me that the msrp is currently $840. He's selling it at $620.

In a few weeks msrp goes up to $879.

I would expect to see the price go up $20 - 40 as a result, but no where close to $800.
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i wonder if this could be used witha 400whp supercharger. what do you think mysql101?
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
This is a subjective question. Which one is "best" all depends on your needs, abilities, and price range. If you want a 400 hp monster I'd say go with the Interceptor. If you want to stay nonturbo and spend a few hundred dollars but have no tuning ability then I'd say go with the RB flash. If you have no problems following instructions and wiring up an ecu from scratch and can create your own maps, the emanage ultimate might be your way to go.

I am not a fan of the standard emanage at all or the Canzoomer. They are products whose time has come and gone.

Do you have an ecu tuning experience? You need to know the basics of what happens with different aspects of tuning. It isn't hard to learn but don't underestimate it.

Do you need a plug and play solution or can you create part of your own wiring harness?

How much power are you going for?

Answer these few questions and we'll help you make a better decision, obviously opinion based of course. Only you can truly know what is best for you.
i have a N/A 8 and would probably never consider FI unless something new came out that only got incredible responses, that has all pros and no cons and thats very unlikely to happen. i have no ecu tuning experience i just figured i would buy an ecu take it to get it installed and tuned in philly...i would probably need a plug and play because i cant create nothing but **** in a toilet...and im going for 20-30hp, if 40 is possible without FI it would make me a very happy guy
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then you should wait and no tget a piggy back but instead get eithe rthe racing beat flash or wait a bit longer for a couple other companies that will flash the stock pcm. no sense in having that extra hardware on your car
Old 07-18-2006 | 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by LeeBunnyz
i have a N/A 8 and would probably never consider FI unless something new came out that only got incredible responses, that has all pros and no cons and thats very unlikely to happen. i have no ecu tuning experience i just figured i would buy an ecu take it to get it installed and tuned in philly...i would probably need a plug and play because i cant create nothing but **** in a toilet...and im going for 20-30hp, if 40 is possible without FI it would make me a very happy guy

just a little advice take it or leave it. I dont have any experience tuning but understand the basic concepts. I put in a cz which was easy enough to install. Then for th tuning I took it to pfsupercars. Your car has to be dyno'd with the base map. then tuned, retuned, retuned some more etc just to squeeze the most hp out of it and 2hrs of that costs a decent amount. also take into account with changing temperatures and the car adjusting you may have to reload a map or retune. If you have no idea about what your doing go with the rb flash(unless you have alot of extra cash to squander).

HIJACK:

With the latest cz updated with emanage gold and without having to worry about burning out the cat(since dont have one) can it be tuned in stage 2 and get close to 40hp?? IDK i thought i read that somewhere a long time ago that for race apps you can tune it to extract hp in that area.
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You can get upwards of 30 HP, but it is a fine line to detonation and requires some skill and good gas.


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