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Old 01-13-2004 | 07:17 PM
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Exhaust Opinion with Stage 1?

Alright guys just a quick question. I'm planning to purchase a new exhaust after receiving my stage 1. I've looked at them all and they all sound great but which one do you think would work best with CZ's stage 1. I'm leaning towards the B&B. Woud the sound get any louder with the mod? Are there any exhausts that I should stay away from after adding stage 1 i.e (heat factor?). Finally from personal experience which exhaust is the loudest because I do take long drives and don't want to be drowned out too much.
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Old 01-13-2004 | 07:25 PM
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Take the word from Canzoomer himself. He made cursory recommendations for the Borla and Greddy and has stated he has "sensed" additional power on the Borla combined with his Stage 1 on another test car. These statements were regarding additional power. Now, if you are only into looks and sound then I have no information to offer.

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Old 01-13-2004 | 07:34 PM
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Ofcourse not I'm looking for more power as well but I'm trying to figure what would be the best exhaust in this situation. Plus after this mod the only other performance mod I would do is maybe an intake. But I say this for now
Old 01-13-2004 | 08:42 PM
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Save your money on the intake and get another mod,maybe stage 2, Maurice already stated that and aftermarket intake would not add anything!
Old 01-13-2004 | 10:38 PM
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You cant really get a serious recomendation about this until people actually have units and try it out. You either have to wait a bit, or just take the plunge and hope for the best. Nobody can tell you what will work best out of 10 models with a product that hasnt arrived into peoples hands yet.

Sorry bro, simple fact.
Old 01-13-2004 | 11:26 PM
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Yeah I figured as much, I'll just have to take the plunge and take a chance. Then so far it will look like a CZ stage 1 and B&B exhaust. Plus I cant really tell which of the exhausts is the loudest or softest because the sound clips are more for sound and not volume. So I'll have to go with performance. Any other opinions or insight?

Also I thought if I went to CZ stage 2 the car would then be not street legal which I do not want to do. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Thanks again
Old 01-14-2004 | 12:23 AM
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Stage 2 is not "street legal". Technically, Stage 1 isn't either, but it shouldn't fail an emmisions test.

We may get Doc's car dyno'ed soon, to see if there are measurable benefits with the Borla system.

I think, because of your sig. you should get the titanium system. After all, it's not my money .

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Old 01-15-2004 | 01:48 AM
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I don't think he said that...he said he didn't foresee significant gains from adding an intake. This is not based on testing, unless I missed a thread. Reputable companies have posted dyno gains from their intakes, but unfortunately I haven't seen any corroborating evidence (or any other kind for that matter) from owners yet, so we really don't know.

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Save your money on the intake and get another mod,maybe stage 2, Maurice already stated that and aftermarket intake would not add anything!
Old 01-15-2004 | 08:35 AM
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I plan on purchasing an exhaust system as well after I recieve my Stage 1 kit from maurice. I have looked into many that are available but I think I will wait until Racing Beat comes out with thiers. I have written to Racing Beat but I have not received a response to my email. I asked when the system would be available.

LINK:http://www.racingbeat.com/FRmazda4.htm
Old 01-15-2004 | 11:01 AM
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I too am in line for a Stage 1 and am also considering the racing beat, however, they better hurry up, because the JIC systems are looking pretty nice
Old 01-15-2004 | 11:29 AM
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There are just so many great exhausts out there. I just don't know which one to pick. Truly I want an exhuast that gives great HP gains that doesn't sound too annoying. Basically a good all around exhaust.
Old 01-15-2004 | 11:50 AM
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I'm becoming more and more impatient each week, waiting for the racing beat exhaust to come out.
Old 01-15-2004 | 12:24 PM
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Originally posted by TitaniumRX8MD
There are just so many great exhausts out there. I just don't know which one to pick. Truly I want an exhuast that gives great HP gains that doesn't sound too annoying. Basically a good all around exhaust.
BORLA

Great Sound
Great Price
Great Looks
Great Warranty
Solid Engineering and Support
Power gains equal to the others

Other than going Titanium for low weight -- I doubt there will be much difference between all of these exhausts performance wise. The sound differences are subjective at best -- I have only heard my Borla and stock and the Borla sounds great. So basically it comes down to cost and warranty. Borla is low cost (~$500) and has the best warranty (million mile).
Old 01-15-2004 | 01:34 PM
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I can say good things sound-wise on the Greddy SP2. I like the big tips on it and the sound is awesome. Cant say about power as I havent had time to dyno it yet, but should get that done next weekend.
Old 01-15-2004 | 09:52 PM
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I've personally heard Genom's Greddy exhaust and it sounds quiet at idle and AWESOME when reved! The big tips fill up the exhaust outlets and look great.
Old 01-15-2004 | 10:12 PM
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You guys need to understand that the HP gains are going to be similar with every exhaust mentioned. If one claims 2 HP more than another its something you are never going to feel on the street. I would go by what looks and sounds the best and one that is priced right.
If you want HP gains you are going to feel then get a midpipe.

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Old 01-15-2004 | 10:16 PM
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That's totally true and I see your point, if that's the case Jason, how do you compare your RX8 exhaust to the Borla, since they are both around the same price and supposedly yield about the same HP.
Old 01-15-2004 | 11:17 PM
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There's also weight to consider.
Old 01-15-2004 | 11:23 PM
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That's true too but most of all the after market exhausts are considerably lighter than the stock
Old 01-16-2004 | 09:47 AM
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Ours and the borla are both nice. The only thing I dont like about the Borla is it has one to many bends in the piping. Other than that its nice.

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Old 01-16-2004 | 02:04 PM
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Jason explained it to me the same way, TiRX8MD.

The more bends in the pipe the lesser the amount of free flow. Probably not enough to notice on the ol' butt dyno but true none the less. If you notice, most of the exhausts that are out there for this car are shaped like a 'T' with dual mufflers. Again, all the exhausts that are out there are quite similar and unless you hear one in person it is a crap shoot. Price and sound motivated me on the RX8Store exhaust. Check out my write-up as well as the sound clip that we made and simply judge for yourself. I also have a thread (My Lightning Yellow with all the goodies) of my own which shows more pics of the exhaust on the car.

It is a nerve racking decision (as are all purchases when there is this kind of money involved) and I believe that which ever exhaust you go with, you will be happy. My CZ Stage 1, according to my e-mail from FedEx, should arrive sometime around Jan. 28.

I will post my results at that point ASAP. Best of Luck with your decision.

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Old 01-16-2004 | 05:21 PM
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Here are some pics if that helps
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Old 01-16-2004 | 06:47 PM
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Thanks dude, for the pics now I'm swayed toward the RX8 exhaust, before was the B&B..... Decisions Decisions Damn

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Old 01-16-2004 | 09:46 PM
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Originally posted by bureau13
I don't think he said that...he said he didn't foresee significant gains from adding an intake. This is not based on testing, unless I missed a thread. Reputable companies have posted dyno gains from their intakes, but unfortunately I haven't seen any corroborating evidence (or any other kind for that matter) from owners yet, so we really don't know.

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Exactly! This is why I recommended he spend his money on a worthwhile mod, not that I'm against intakes, hey if people like them and it makes them happy, that's great! now I'm seeing dyno charts with some H.P. gain, so It's not a useless mod, like I misquoted, but for the money you would spend on the intake, you would be able to buy the difference between stage 1 and 2, which would give you a lot more power.


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