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Old 05-17-2007 | 11:24 AM
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Exhaust question....

I have been looking at various exhausts and one thing keeps jumping out at me. Most of these exhausts start out as a 2.5-3" tube and then turn into a dual 2-2.5". What doesn't make sense to me is if they are only displacing (may not be the right word here) 3" of air to start, why do they need 5" (2x2.5) towards the end? Wouldn't dual 1.5" be sufficient? I understand that the rotary doesn't have backpressure issues but, besides the audial/visual factors, are there any other things that would require the reverse bottleneck?

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Old 05-17-2007 | 11:30 AM
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hot is dense

cold is not
Old 05-17-2007 | 11:37 AM
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isn't it the other way around? which is why a CAI works (in theory) since it pulls more cold air which is denser?
Old 05-17-2007 | 11:40 AM
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isn't it the other way around? which is why a CAI works (in theory) since it pulls more cold air which is denser?
you are right
Old 05-17-2007 | 12:19 PM
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you are right
heh, which brings us back to our original question
Old 05-17-2007 | 02:55 PM
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3" exhaust=14.13 square inches of x section
2.5" exhaust= 9.8 square inches of xsection
1.5" exhaust=3.5 square inches of xsection

If you split into pipes smaller than 2.5" then you start reducing your total xsectional area and ability to flow.
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hot is dense

cold is not
debating whether this should be my new signature
Old 05-17-2007 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by shaunv74
3" exhaust=14.13 square inches of x section
2.5" exhaust= 9.8 square inches of xsection
1.5" exhaust=3.5 square inches of xsection

If you split into pipes smaller than 2.5" then you start reducing your total xsectional area and ability to flow.
Thanks Shaun.
I am assuming that "xsection" is what I was referring to as "displacement"? How is it calculated? Just looking at the #'s it seems to be a curve.....and it seems that a 2" exhaust would be somewhere around 6.5-7?
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Water was the thing that was throwing me off, because I always thought that ice expanded.
Old 05-17-2007 | 07:21 PM
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Old 05-17-2007 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by VASasha
Thanks Shaun.
I am assuming that "xsection" is what I was referring to as "displacement"? How is it calculated? Just looking at the #'s it seems to be a curve.....and it seems that a 2" exhaust would be somewhere around 6.5-7?
You don't know how to calculate the area of a circle?
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You don't know how to calculate the area of a circle?
it would be the area of tons of connected cylinders. pie(radius)squared times height. here it would be length. i guess if you knew how long it would be in addition to the pipes getting smaller or larger you could figure out the flow. I dont know much about this, but I am assuming equations that would make mucho sense. FYI, if you think hot air is better for the engine, dont put oil in your car, take the fan off, and put a heater in front of the engine. lol
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Originally Posted by LabDad
You don't know how to calculate the area of a circle?
I guess I keep missing the obvious. Now that you said that it makes more sense. This is the kind of stuff I never thought I'd ever use again in high school.
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Originally Posted by BigRed
it would be the area of tons of connected cylinders. pie(radius)squared times height. here it would be length. i guess if you knew how long it would be in addition to the pipes getting smaller or larger you could figure out the flow. I dont know much about this, but I am assuming equations that would make mucho sense. FYI, if you think hot air is better for the engine, dont put oil in your car, take the fan off, and put a heater in front of the engine. lol
Nope, just talking about cross sectional area here. No need to get too complicated unless you like going through a full Navier-Stokes equation. I don't ever want to do those calculations again.
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