Flywheel flywheels flywheels.
#276
Originally Posted by Brettus
have not heard much about him lately - how is he going ?
i just caught the lordes / kelly last race at phillips island.. a shame..
but those cars are sooooooo cooooooollll..
beers
#278
Originally Posted by Brettus
they would be cool if they weren't common as muck .
i just find the racing really good, and fair / polite. if you have the corner you have the corner..
btw, on topic. i love my flywheel. you?
beers ..
#280
Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
The thing with the PPF is to hand assemble all 8 nuts and the one cross-bolt that is on the differential. The PPF needs to be shouldered properly where the 8 nuts are located and then the cross bolt is torqued FIRST. The 8 nuts are then torqued in no particular order. This info comes from a guy who has removed his own PPF several times and has never had an issue with re-assembly.
Another option that i read from the shop manual was to support the transmission with jack (instead of shouldering the PPF), then tighten up the rear 5 bolts (starting with bolts on top) then tighten the front 4 bolts (again with bolts on the top 1st). What i found however is that when releasing the transmission jack, the PPF/transmission would still lower itself slightly ~ 7mm. So I needed to redo the PPF alignment this time with 7mm above the 55-57 recommendation (~64mm), thus when i removed the jack the 2nd time, it settled down to 55-56mm.
Does Charles' procedure of supporting the PPF instead of tranmission allow for measuring the 55-57mm without the PPF/tranmsission dropping after the jack support is released?
Thanks!
Edgardo
#281
Thread Starter
Bigboy in a little car!
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,276
Likes: 6
From: In So Cal.. out in BFE... but in the good part... but not really by Cesar, Keith or Loren...
............. ok I gotta ask............. What the hell are you guys talking about? ......... PPF???
#282
Originally Posted by swoope
your form of nascar, not that there is anything wrong with that...
i just find the racing really good, and fair / polite. if you have the corner you have the corner..
btw, on topic. i love my flywheel. you?
beers ..
i just find the racing really good, and fair / polite. if you have the corner you have the corner..
btw, on topic. i love my flywheel. you?
beers ..
#283
Originally Posted by speeddemon32
............. ok I gotta ask............. What the hell are you guys talking about? ......... PPF???
Laters!
Edgardo
#285
Originally Posted by speeddemon32
............. ok I gotta ask............. What the hell are you guys talking about? ......... PPF???
The Power Plant Frame. It's the big piece of metal that attaches the back of the transmission to the Differential.
Swoope. I have heard a few times that the alignment is a big deal but I'm not familiar with the reason. We put it back in in the order Charles R. mentioned and didn't have any issues. I'm not saying it's not important I just don't know the reason. Why so?
#286
Also if it hasn't been posted before here is the DIY for installing a flywheel.
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-do-yourself-forum-73/diy-aftermarket-flywheel-34289/
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-do-yourself-forum-73/diy-aftermarket-flywheel-34289/
#287
Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
I wonder why swoope, and some others, are making a big deal out of the PPF in the first place. As long as the proper installation procedures are followed the won't be any trouble. ny, which Fidanza wheel is that?
the 8 lbs one.
#288
One ball, corner pocket
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 2,053
Likes: 1
From: Fontucky, right next to Patriotville
Originally Posted by grinn253
#289
Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
I wonder why swoope, and some others, are making a big deal out of the PPF in the first place. As long as the proper installation procedures are followed the won't be any trouble. ny, which Fidanza wheel is that?
i think many shops that dont deal with a ppf car just slap it back in..
i recall i think it was about 3 years ago, a well know rotary shop did not get it right... it was a very big problem and rb was getting blamed for bad parts.
it was not the parts it was the ppf done wrong...
also as a side note. when my motor was replaced they changed to my prolite and exedy clutch while it was out...
after the install the tech went for a drive to check everything, pulled it in and said you have a bad vibration in your new clutch...
i looked at him and said check the ppf... he looked at me shocked that i knew what it was. well thats what it was...
he said that is the first time he had the problem after a motor install... my guess it that since the motor mounts were change at the same time it changed the alignment from the old collapsed mounts.
also the tech had a very unusual way of changing motors...but it is fast....
beers
Last edited by swoope; 03-09-2007 at 02:39 AM.
#291
Now Im thinking .... maybe I should try to do this all by myself. If I go to a shop, they might **** it up and I have to bring it back again to fix it ...
for 300 bux(shop asking for this price) I think I can buy myself some pretty good air compressor with an *ok* impact wench ... and I just got myself a Rhino Ramps today, if I drive the car up, I can work on this right ? (I know I need a tranny stand or some sort of stuff to hold it, right ?
Time is not a problem, when it comes to working on my car I have TONS of patience, plus I want to learn. but do you guys recommend me to do it myself ?
for 300 bux(shop asking for this price) I think I can buy myself some pretty good air compressor with an *ok* impact wench ... and I just got myself a Rhino Ramps today, if I drive the car up, I can work on this right ? (I know I need a tranny stand or some sort of stuff to hold it, right ?
Time is not a problem, when it comes to working on my car I have TONS of patience, plus I want to learn. but do you guys recommend me to do it myself ?
Last edited by nycgps; 03-12-2007 at 02:19 AM.
#292
i was lucky and mine was done at motor replacement time..
but i would do it myself if i did not have the motor replaced...
you also will need a pilot bearing puller... i think you can rent an impact wrench...
and i would think a second person for the ppf and trans remove and replace...
beers
but i would do it myself if i did not have the motor replaced...
you also will need a pilot bearing puller... i think you can rent an impact wrench...
and i would think a second person for the ppf and trans remove and replace...
beers
#293
Originally Posted by nycgps
Time is not a problem, when it comes to working on my car I have TONS of patience, plus I want to learn. but do you guys recommend me to do it myself ?
The most difficult part was gathering the correct tools & knowing what tools to use for the job. For me as well, it was fun to learn how the various components work/fit together. I want to do more flywheel installs now!
Laters!
Edgardo
#294
Originally Posted by swoope
i was lucky and mine was done at motor replacement time..
but i would do it myself if i did not have the motor replaced...
you also will need a pilot bearing puller... i think you can rent an impact wrench...
and i would think a second person for the ppf and trans remove and replace...
beers
but i would do it myself if i did not have the motor replaced...
you also will need a pilot bearing puller... i think you can rent an impact wrench...
and i would think a second person for the ppf and trans remove and replace...
beers
Which air compressor you would recommend ? I was looking at a Michelin some 120 psi one. not sure if its enough.
for the pilot removing tool, for 111 bucks ? Is there a place where I can get it for cheaper ?
Last edited by nycgps; 03-12-2007 at 08:18 AM.
#296
Thread Starter
Bigboy in a little car!
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,276
Likes: 6
From: In So Cal.. out in BFE... but in the good part... but not really by Cesar, Keith or Loren...
thats the seat that you will put in just after the pilot bearing.
the only pilot bearing removal tool that will work is the expensive one from Mazdatrix/Atkins.
however, what we did this last time was bust the cage of the bearing out, along with all of the needle bearings, then when the only thing that was left in the e shaft was the outer race, we took a blind hole removal tool found for rent (for free) at auto zone, and removed the race with that. it took 10 minutes, and was free.
the only pilot bearing removal tool that will work is the expensive one from Mazdatrix/Atkins.
however, what we did this last time was bust the cage of the bearing out, along with all of the needle bearings, then when the only thing that was left in the e shaft was the outer race, we took a blind hole removal tool found for rent (for free) at auto zone, and removed the race with that. it took 10 minutes, and was free.
#297
Originally Posted by speeddemon32
thats the seat that you will put in just after the pilot bearing.
the only pilot bearing removal tool that will work is the expensive one from Mazdatrix/Atkins.
however, what we did this last time was bust the cage of the bearing out, along with all of the needle bearings, then when the only thing that was left in the e shaft was the outer race, we took a blind hole removal tool found for rent (for free) at auto zone, and removed the race with that. it took 10 minutes, and was free.
the only pilot bearing removal tool that will work is the expensive one from Mazdatrix/Atkins.
however, what we did this last time was bust the cage of the bearing out, along with all of the needle bearings, then when the only thing that was left in the e shaft was the outer race, we took a blind hole removal tool found for rent (for free) at auto zone, and removed the race with that. it took 10 minutes, and was free.
Blind hole removal tool .... Im gonna go Autozone in a bit and ask them. I need to buy a radiator cap for my father's minivan.
Or who actually have *bought* this tool from Mazdatrix ? Im willing to pay some money *borrow* it for a few days.
#298
My advice is do it with a friend that has pulled a tranny before. You'll learn a bunch and they'll help keep you out of trouble and make it a quicker job. That's what I did and it was pretty painless.
#299
Originally Posted by shaunv74
My advice is do it with a friend that has pulled a tranny before. You'll learn a bunch and they'll help keep you out of trouble and make it a quicker job. That's what I did and it was pretty painless.
So Im pretty much alone .......
Im doing my homework on the issue right now , prepare everything before I start.