Flywheel flywheels flywheels.
10-02-2006 | 03:19 AM
#177
Originally Posted by kwescott
stock clutch is Exedy...hope you didn't pay to "upgrade" to Exedy.
do you think the dspecs are the same thing???
guess he did the stage 1.
beers
10-02-2006 | 05:52 PM
#178
peterisurhero
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From: cerritos, CA
Originally Posted by kwescott
where are you located...we've done three now,,, we may be able to help?
No, dealer is not necessary.
No, dealer is not necessary.
im in so cal. la county. and if you guys are able to help, that would be great!
10-17-2006 | 07:25 PM
#180
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From: Boston Area, MA
Originally Posted by Endless Rotaries
FYI, I had the Mazda dealership install mine and check with corporate to make sure it would not void warranty. They charged the same as any other mechanic except this way I have documentation from the dealership. FYI.
i have the Exedy Clutch and ACT flywheel combo. The lighter ACT one. I absolutely love this setup. I must say it's one of the best mods i've done to my 8.
Thanks, rishie
i have the Exedy Clutch and ACT flywheel combo. The lighter ACT one. I absolutely love this setup. I must say it's one of the best mods i've done to my 8.
Thanks, rishie
no wayyy.... howd you get an aftermarket flywheel installed without voiding the warranty? the service guy i talked to today clearly stated that if i had an aftermarket flywheel, it would void that part of the warranty....
also, important question: how would mazda know if i changed the flywheel? can i get a non-mazda dealership to install my new flywheel, and not tell mazda? that way, my warranty wont be voided... and if worst comes to worst, i could switch back flywheels without them noticing in case my whole tranny or whatever dies?
10-17-2006 | 07:32 PM
#181
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It all depends on the dealership you go to. Some will claim to void it, and some wont even care. If you go 3rd party they technically wouldnt know unless the dropped the tranny to take a look, or if you have a trans issue.
10-17-2006 | 07:38 PM
#182
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From: Boston Area, MA
and is it a bad idea to have a third party mechanic install the flywheel instead of the dealership? if there's really no difference in quality and reliability, then i'll probably buy the ACT prolite and have a third party mechanic install it, and then keep it a secret from my dealership.... because my car has another 4 years until the warranty is done, and i sure as hell dont wanna wait that long....
oh, and P.S., i forgot my disclaimer - if you work for Mazda, then please know that this is all hypothetical and that i would never install anything aftermarket that would void my warranty without telling you... and while we're at it, i've never gone over 70 mph either, because i dont want my warranty voided like the other guy...
oh, and P.S., i forgot my disclaimer - if you work for Mazda, then please know that this is all hypothetical and that i would never install anything aftermarket that would void my warranty without telling you... and while we're at it, i've never gone over 70 mph either, because i dont want my warranty voided like the other guy...
10-17-2006 | 08:15 PM
#184
always filling [the c]up
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From: Alice, Texas
Originally Posted by 1145climber
and is it a bad idea to have a third party mechanic install the flywheel instead of the dealership? if there's really no difference in quality and reliability, then i'll probably buy the ACT prolite and have a third party mechanic install it, and then keep it a secret from my dealership.... because my car has another 4 years until the warranty is done, and i sure as hell dont wanna wait that long....
oh, and P.S., i forgot my disclaimer - if you work for Mazda, then please know that this is all hypothetical and that i would never install anything aftermarket that would void my warranty without telling you... and while we're at it, i've never gone over 70 mph either, because i dont want my warranty voided like the other guy...
oh, and P.S., i forgot my disclaimer - if you work for Mazda, then please know that this is all hypothetical and that i would never install anything aftermarket that would void my warranty without telling you... and while we're at it, i've never gone over 70 mph either, because i dont want my warranty voided like the other guy...
Last edited by Cody Red; 10-17-2006 at 08:18 PM.
10-17-2006 | 09:42 PM
#185
RX-8 Enthusiast
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From: Boston Area, MA
Originally Posted by CohdeyTakahashi
Me and my friend installed my cat and exhaust in July. I took my car for maintence (recall) in September. The guy said they were gonna look at the cat, spark plugs, engine, gas tank strap, etc. They didn't say anything about my aftermarket parts. I even told them that I had a problem with the stock cat, so i replaced it with an aftermarket, nor did they say anything about my cars warrenty being officially voided or whatever. They didn't say anything at all. All they said to me was, "here's the keys to that CX-7, have fun, be back at 5" and I did so.
damn, maybe i should move to texas for some more friendly dealers... lol
Originally Posted by no dice
Which other guy?
you can do it elsewhere, theres really nothing an experienced mechanic cant do, just make sure they use loctite on the bolts..
you can do it elsewhere, theres really nothing an experienced mechanic cant do, just make sure they use loctite on the bolts..
and also, what do i have to take my car in to service for anyway after the first 3000 mile check-up? just oil changes?
10-30-2006 | 04:19 PM
#186
Originally Posted by Brettus
got this response from ACT re the noise ........
Originally Posted by ACTman
If is more of a rattle then it is probabably gear noise. Gear rattle is caused by the torsional vibrations (rotational pulses) of the eccentric shaft. Normally the heavy weight of the flywheel and the springs in the center of the disc dampens out most of it. There are two reason for this and both are related to the parts that you installed. First of all the springs in our disc are heavier and allow for less rotation than the stock RX8 disc which is exactly what you need for performance use. Secondly, the flywheel is significantly lighter so more torsional vibration gets to the clutch than normal. If it is torsional vibration, you don't have to worry about any problems associated with the noise.
Originally Posted by ACTman
If is more of a rattle then it is probabably gear noise. Gear rattle is caused by the torsional vibrations (rotational pulses) of the eccentric shaft. Normally the heavy weight of the flywheel and the springs in the center of the disc dampens out most of it. There are two reason for this and both are related to the parts that you installed. First of all the springs in our disc are heavier and allow for less rotation than the stock RX8 disc which is exactly what you need for performance use. Secondly, the flywheel is significantly lighter so more torsional vibration gets to the clutch than normal. If it is torsional vibration, you don't have to worry about any problems associated with the noise.
10-30-2006 | 04:30 PM
#187
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From: Fontucky, right next to Patriotville
And Speeddemon32 was able to find the rattle in his system...problem for him has been resolved as well. Was a heat sheild I believe...and not anything related to the actual flywheel, more to do with the reinstallation of parts after the install.
11-13-2006 | 11:19 AM
#190
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From: In So Cal.. out in BFE... but in the good part... but not really by Cesar, Keith or Loren...
only info I have is what is posted. if you or anyone finds out more info on any of the flywheels that I dont have. please post it, and I will add it to the first post. 
11-13-2006 | 11:43 AM
#191
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From: Fontucky, right next to Patriotville
Originally Posted by california style
anymore info on the Xedy flywheel?
Does 12 pounds include the counterweight for example?
Does 12 pounds include the counterweight for example?
I would guess that the 12 pound weight is w/out counterweight. I believe Speeddemon32 posted the weight of the counter weight on the first post.
11-13-2006 | 12:13 PM
#192
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From: In So Cal.. out in BFE... but in the good part... but not really by Cesar, Keith or Loren...
yes I did. and I agree. I would assume that is without as most of them claim their numbers without. in fact, most make you buy the counter weight on the side. (which should also be noted on the first page)
and I agree. I would assume that is without as most of them claim their numbers without. in fact, most make you buy the counter weight on the side. (which should also be noted on the first page)
11-24-2006 | 07:41 PM
#193
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From: Eureka, Ca
Just had the exedy stage 1 clutch and flywheel put in. Love it! I notice a big difference with the flywheel. The flywheel did NOT come with a counterweight so id assume the weight is without the counterweight. Counterweight cost me somewhere around 150-180 from mazda
11-29-2006 | 08:44 AM
#194
Blonde Bastard
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From: Ellicott City, Maryland
Cel
Which of these flywheels DO NOT cause the car to throw a CEL? I was looking at the fidenza because of that nice write up on it but the guy said he gets a CEL @ 7K. Does this happen to all the flywheels other than the MS Flywheel or does the MS throw a CEL too? Also has anyone redlined their engine with the new flywheel to test and make sure you dont get a CEL?
11-29-2006 | 09:42 AM
#196
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Originally Posted by Landon
Which of these flywheels DO NOT cause the car to throw a CEL? I was looking at the fidenza because of that nice write up on it but the guy said he gets a CEL @ 7K. Does this happen to all the flywheels other than the MS Flywheel or does the MS throw a CEL too? Also has anyone redlined their engine with the new flywheel to test and make sure you dont get a CEL?
11-29-2006 | 09:46 AM
#197
Blonde Bastard
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From: Ellicott City, Maryland
Originally Posted by nycgps
Which post ? Who has a CEL with lightweight FW ?
11-29-2006 | 10:10 AM
#199
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From: Ellicott City, Maryland
Originally Posted by maxxdamigz
Has he pulled the code to see what it is? I'm trying to think how a flywheel could throw a CEL.
11-29-2006 | 10:23 AM
#200
The Professor
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The CEL was only present on the first test run at high RPMs. I've put about 7K miles on the car since then and I haven't had a CEL at all, that is even with the underdrive pullies adding to the overall engine weight reduction. I think the CEL was just caused by the car not being used to the acceleration of the lightned components in one way or another. I didn't pull the CEL, so I guess we will never know.
Here is a dyno:
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-aftermarket-performance-modifications-23/post-recall-dyno-today-99812/
As you can see, it never remained a problem.
Here is a dyno:
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-aftermarket-performance-modifications-23/post-recall-dyno-today-99812/
As you can see, it never remained a problem.