AT Horsepower Restriction
#53
Do you just make this stuff up?
Edit: Phil Answered already.
Also the reason is not just RPM but because it only has 4 ports instead of 6 and can't take in as much air as the MTs.
The fastest 8's out there are 8's with 20Bs in them. But the MT turbos are much faster than the AT turbos. Not trying to flame AT owners. Just trying to set the record straight and stop the spread of mis-information.
Edit: Phil Answered already.
Also the reason is not just RPM but because it only has 4 ports instead of 6 and can't take in as much air as the MTs.
The fastest 8's out there are 8's with 20Bs in them. But the MT turbos are much faster than the AT turbos. Not trying to flame AT owners. Just trying to set the record straight and stop the spread of mis-information.
#54
You have it, a quick relatively inexpensive way to gain speed is Nitrous. If you do choose it, the first rule is stay away from Easy_E1 and his posts on Nitrous. If you don't you'll be investing in the same manifold factory that he presently is . There are so many different mods that are available that something out there should tickle your fancy and help with your desire to improve the performance of your 8
Early on usage and not knowing the fine line of operation has made me a wiser man. I haven't blown a manifold in 7 months. And the two manifolds I blew up, I know what happened and how NOT to repeat that process again.
You can make a 4 Port as fast and faster (like mine) than the 6 Port MT.
And there is nothing weak about the AT transmission.
#55
#56
Yes it can! Get an Accessport. My car (4 Port AT) does 9000 rpm every day.
I heard that Phil! Someone has to be the test pilot here.
Early on usage and not knowing the fine line of operation has made me a wiser man. I haven't blown a manifold in 7 months. And the two manifolds I blew up, I know what happened and how NOT to repeat that process again.
You can make a 4 Port as fast and faster (like mine) than the 6 Port MT.
And there is nothing weak about the AT transmission.
I heard that Phil! Someone has to be the test pilot here.
Early on usage and not knowing the fine line of operation has made me a wiser man. I haven't blown a manifold in 7 months. And the two manifolds I blew up, I know what happened and how NOT to repeat that process again.
You can make a 4 Port as fast and faster (like mine) than the 6 Port MT.
And there is nothing weak about the AT transmission.
#57
#59
That's the same exact reason I bought my 8.
#60
IDK if we are talking about just enjoying the AT 8's or gaining more power from a inexpensive habbit for certain parts. I think there are ways of getting that massive power but at what cost and especially out of the RENESIS. When you have companies like Greddy, Pettit Racing, Esmeril etc, There should be no worries for power it will come in time but for now if anyone is really craving that extra power just do a swap lol but stay Rotary all the way and you can still keep the auto tranny. What I'm basically saying is that for those of you who actually put on their thinking caps will find that this sh*t takes time and money out the ***!
LMFAO
Just a thought.
Ju
LMFAO
Just a thought.
Ju
Last edited by bhop; 08-08-2009 at 05:36 PM.
#61
LOL, I hate getting left behind by a MT 8. It is really funny to watch when it happens considering the fact that we have the same car visually.
#63
If you have a six port AT and fit a turbo you should get close to what an MT can do because these motors peak at around 7500 with a turbo .
I think if someone did a decent job of turboing an AT 6 port it would be a real sweet ride and give the AT some real credibility as a sports car ....
I think if someone did a decent job of turboing an AT 6 port it would be a real sweet ride and give the AT some real credibility as a sports car ....
#64
#66
Hay everyone who gonna do a turbo install on there AT PM me please just wanna get some ideas as to what direction u guys are going for yours!
Did alot of searching and I'm feeling pretty confident on this. (Props to 09 factor)
Did alot of searching and I'm feeling pretty confident on this. (Props to 09 factor)
#67
What Phil was referring to is that the transmission will "slip" (rpms shoot up) when engaging 2nd to 3rd gears. Sometimes. It does this regardless of the rpm preset redline. 7500 or 9000.
I've owned two AT 8's (4 speed)and they both did it. If your in second gear for an extended period of time (cruising at say 6000 rpm) and floor it and shift into 3rd. It sometimes does not immediately engage. And the rpm's increase with no load on the trans before it does. It does not do this all the time.
Now Mazda looked at both my cars and had no answer or resolution to this issue. They attribute it to high fluid pressure on the shift solenoid. So I let off the gas a little and it works fine.
That is the only issue I have with the AT transmission and it really isn't that big of a deal.
#68
Im trying to be the one Brettus. I should have my car back this week. I had an engine rebuild from Tito at Alamo Rotary.. Im about to get Cobbs and I will get the Greddy Kit. Im going to get Pettit to modify my turbo for less exhaust restriction.. So... we'll see what the AT 6port can do.
The stock Greddy will not light your fire - sorry to say .
#70
What Phil was referring to is that the transmission will "slip" (rpms shoot up) when engaging 2nd to 3rd gears. Sometimes. It does this regardless of the rpm preset redline. 7500 or 9000.
I've owned two AT 8's (4 speed)and they both did it. If your in second gear for an extended period of time (cruising at say 6000 rpm) and floor it and shift into 3rd. It sometimes does not immediately engage. And the rpm's increase with no load on the trans before it does. It does not do this all the time.
Now Mazda looked at both my cars and had no answer or resolution to this issue. They attribute it to high fluid pressure on the shift solenoid. So I let off the gas a little and it works fine.
That is the only issue I have with the AT transmission and it really isn't that big of a deal.[/quote]
You are correct my friend. I thought I was the only one having this so called "problem". Now that I think about it, this could be due to not having clutch maybe. Just as long the transmission is not about to break I'm cool.
I've owned two AT 8's (4 speed)and they both did it. If your in second gear for an extended period of time (cruising at say 6000 rpm) and floor it and shift into 3rd. It sometimes does not immediately engage. And the rpm's increase with no load on the trans before it does. It does not do this all the time.
Now Mazda looked at both my cars and had no answer or resolution to this issue. They attribute it to high fluid pressure on the shift solenoid. So I let off the gas a little and it works fine.
That is the only issue I have with the AT transmission and it really isn't that big of a deal.[/quote]
You are correct my friend. I thought I was the only one having this so called "problem". Now that I think about it, this could be due to not having clutch maybe. Just as long the transmission is not about to break I'm cool.
#71
i was actually thinking about that. Is MazdaManiacs 3071R still available??
Last edited by freaklinkmusic; 08-09-2009 at 06:38 PM.
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#75
Not sure what year you have but if your a 6 port your lack of speed has to be due to your pocket book. Even an AP tuned properly with a few bolt-ons will get you even (there is not that much difference in HP in the 6ports). Add Nos and you will make them disappear in your rear view (on the track - street racing is illegal and dangerous ).