How fast is a turbo?
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Originally Posted by Moostafa29
If you have a 220whp car with a boost leak making 13.9 1/4 miles, what do you think that most of the owners with around 250-260whp will make? I'd bet it would be...you guessed it...at least 13.5. For a true comparison, you need the same driver to do 1/4 runs in the exact same conditions. There aren't many, but those who have have knocked off about 1 second.
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Lets think about that for a hot second...after all this do you think I'd be helping to prove your point? There aren't many that have done a 1/4 mile run before and after turbo. There aren't many that have done n/a 1/4 mile runs, and there are even less that have done turboed 1/4 mile times.
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Moostafa, im not trying to have a personal argument with you. If you have facts that you can post, i'd be glad to see them, because i haven't seen any that clearly point to mid 13's. If you have factual information (not people saying the car is much faster) but rather drag numbers that you have actually seen, please post them because i would honsetly be ineterested to see them.
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Originally Posted by RotaryManiac
Moostafa, im not trying to have a personal argument with you. If you have facts that you can post, i'd be glad to see them, because i haven't seen any that clearly point to mid 13's. If you have factual information (not people saying the car is much faster) but rather drag numbers that you have actually seen, please post them because i would honsetly be ineterested to see them.
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...6&page=1&pp=15
Lets please put this to rest, as this is not a personal attack, only trying to prove a point.
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There was a poster here that went from 15.1 to a 13.9 with his kit (wasn't Polak, off the top of my head I seem to remember it was one of our Canadian members, maybe Luis Schiavo). Honestly, I have not seen very many people pulling 14.5's with a stock car. Did the magazine do it...yes, but that was that driver in those conditions. Most times I have seen are in the high 14's, low 15's. To get from low 15's to high 13's is 1+ sec. drop you were looking for. Haven't seen any 14.5's to 13.5's simply because I haven't seen many 14.5's outside of the magazine.
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Originally Posted by Moostafa29
I don't want to argue with you any further either. I have not seen a mid 13 second run, as I've only seen one true 1/4 mile thus far. My only point was that if a person with a boost leak pushing 220whp could manage a 13.9, it is possible for them to get mid 13s if their car was properly functioning. That being said, here is your gtech comparison, done my a race car driver. Given his rep, I trust his results.
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...6&page=1&pp=15
Lets please put this to rest, as this is not a personal attack, only trying to prove a point.
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...6&page=1&pp=15
Lets please put this to rest, as this is not a personal attack, only trying to prove a point.
I was searchin on that thread and i could not find what his trap speed was? any ideas?
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Greddy turbo isn't fast at all. you'll have chance on N/A cars with simple bolt ons, but not factory turboed cars such as evo, sti, srt4.
srt4 with stage 1 ecu will be just as fast as greddy turbo with interceptor-x.
and stage 2 ecu will murder greddy 8.
if you want to hang with those cars that are slightly modded, you don't want greddy.
srt4 with stage 1 ecu will be just as fast as greddy turbo with interceptor-x.
and stage 2 ecu will murder greddy 8.
if you want to hang with those cars that are slightly modded, you don't want greddy.
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If that interceptor x really does the job then the next thing to find out is how much power our 8 can handle along with the tranny and all that usual stuff. Then If you have a greddy kit already, then just get a bigger turbo.
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Originally Posted by REXNdBst
If that interceptor x really does the job then the next thing to find out is how much power our 8 can handle along with the tranny and all that usual stuff. Then If you have a greddy kit already, then just get a bigger turbo.
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Originally Posted by evilbada1
Greddy turbo isn't fast at all. you'll have chance on N/A cars with simple bolt ons, but not factory turboed cars such as evo, sti, srt4.
srt4 with stage 1 ecu will be just as fast as greddy turbo with interceptor-x.
and stage 2 ecu will murder greddy 8.
if you want to hang with those cars that are slightly modded, you don't want greddy.
srt4 with stage 1 ecu will be just as fast as greddy turbo with interceptor-x.
and stage 2 ecu will murder greddy 8.
if you want to hang with those cars that are slightly modded, you don't want greddy.
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you have to read the post more carefully before saying i was making wrong statements.
i said slightlt modded, which means ecu, boost controller, exhaust.
those are pretty simple mods. you ran stock ones not slightly modded ones.
you run those i mentioned, and you'll get murdered.
greddy has its limit and that's that, no questions or 'bashing on pure conjecture'.
srt4's stage 3 ecu gives u somewhere around 350whp, and its not even a major upgrade like bigger turbo upgrade.
you're proud because you can keep up with stock evo,sti's with greddy turbo?
i wouldn't consider greddy fast AT ALL.
i said slightlt modded, which means ecu, boost controller, exhaust.
those are pretty simple mods. you ran stock ones not slightly modded ones.
you run those i mentioned, and you'll get murdered.
greddy has its limit and that's that, no questions or 'bashing on pure conjecture'.
srt4's stage 3 ecu gives u somewhere around 350whp, and its not even a major upgrade like bigger turbo upgrade.
you're proud because you can keep up with stock evo,sti's with greddy turbo?
i wouldn't consider greddy fast AT ALL.
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Originally Posted by Fanman
You're basing this on pure conjecture. An an incorrect one at that. From a roll I have run with EVO's & STI's and stayed dead even/stayed ahead of them. You should see the looks on their faces, it looks like I just ran over over their dogs. Then they hear the BOV & understand why. STI's & EVO's make very good 1/4 mile times because they have the AWD off the line, but have you ever seen their 30-50 or 50-70 or even their 5-60 mph times (rolling start). There are good, but substantially off their 0-60 or 1/4 mile times.
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Originally Posted by evilbada1
you have to read the post more carefully before saying i was making wrong statements.
i said slightlt modded, which means ecu, boost controller, exhaust.
those are pretty simple mods. you ran stock ones not slightly modded ones.
you run those i mentioned, and you'll get murdered.
greddy has its limit and that's that, no questions or 'bashing on pure conjecture'.
srt4's stage 3 ecu gives u somewhere around 350whp, and its not even a major upgrade like bigger turbo upgrade.
you're proud because you can keep up with stock evo,sti's with greddy turbo?
i wouldn't consider greddy fast AT ALL.
i said slightlt modded, which means ecu, boost controller, exhaust.
those are pretty simple mods. you ran stock ones not slightly modded ones.
you run those i mentioned, and you'll get murdered.
greddy has its limit and that's that, no questions or 'bashing on pure conjecture'.
srt4's stage 3 ecu gives u somewhere around 350whp, and its not even a major upgrade like bigger turbo upgrade.
you're proud because you can keep up with stock evo,sti's with greddy turbo?
i wouldn't consider greddy fast AT ALL.
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Originally Posted by evilbada1
Greddy turbo isn't fast at all. you'll have chance on N/A cars with simple bolt ons, but not factory turboed cars such as evo, sti, srt4.
srt4 with stage 1 ecu will be just as fast as greddy turbo with interceptor-x.
and stage 2 ecu will murder greddy 8.
if you want to hang with those cars that are slightly modded, you don't want greddy.
srt4 with stage 1 ecu will be just as fast as greddy turbo with interceptor-x.
and stage 2 ecu will murder greddy 8.
if you want to hang with those cars that are slightly modded, you don't want greddy.
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Originally Posted by evilbada1
It is worldwide known that evo's top end is horrible. But with the cam upgrade, that could be alleviated. Does greddy offer high top end? I don't think so.
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Originally Posted by evilbada1
you have to read the post more carefully before saying i was making wrong statements.
i said slightlt modded, which means ecu, boost controller, exhaust.
those are pretty simple mods. you ran stock ones not slightly modded ones.
you run those i mentioned, and you'll get murdered.
greddy has its limit and that's that, no questions or 'bashing on pure conjecture'.
srt4's stage 3 ecu gives u somewhere around 350whp, and its not even a major upgrade like bigger turbo upgrade.
you're proud because you can keep up with stock evo,sti's with greddy turbo?
i wouldn't consider greddy fast AT ALL.
i said slightlt modded, which means ecu, boost controller, exhaust.
those are pretty simple mods. you ran stock ones not slightly modded ones.
you run those i mentioned, and you'll get murdered.
greddy has its limit and that's that, no questions or 'bashing on pure conjecture'.
srt4's stage 3 ecu gives u somewhere around 350whp, and its not even a major upgrade like bigger turbo upgrade.
you're proud because you can keep up with stock evo,sti's with greddy turbo?
i wouldn't consider greddy fast AT ALL.
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Originally Posted by Fanman
The Greddy Turbo kit just accentuates the positive things about this car at a decent price.
EDIT: please correct me if i'm wrong about the power starting to drop with the greddy somewhere at 7000rpm.
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Originally Posted by RotaryManiac
Phew, someone who agrees with me. I'm not saying the turbo isnt fast, but its not even close to the evo/sti/srt with very little bolt ons.
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Agreed.
EDIT: i really would like to know what the power drop off is at with the greddy. I believe i saw something that said it was at 7000rpm. If so, i think that completely goes against the awesome high revs of the car. Once again, correct me if im wrong. This would also be a big reason for me not to get the turbo. I'd want one that wouldnt drop until at least 8000.
EDIT: i really would like to know what the power drop off is at with the greddy. I believe i saw something that said it was at 7000rpm. If so, i think that completely goes against the awesome high revs of the car. Once again, correct me if im wrong. This would also be a big reason for me not to get the turbo. I'd want one that wouldnt drop until at least 8000.
Last edited by RotaryManiac; 09-14-2005 at 03:27 PM.