How to get the most horse for the money
10-22-2007, 11:11 AM
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Well my 8 is pretty quick N/A and I would recommend the following if you only have $1200
Racing beat duct
Racing beat flash
cat delete pipe (with resonator) or a good 2nd hand catback system
K&N drop in air filter + take out the 2 mesh screens in the intake
Agency power underdrive pulley
premix at 200:1 or more
That will make a noticable difference - just don't take on any STIs or EVOs
Racing beat duct
Racing beat flash
cat delete pipe (with resonator) or a good 2nd hand catback system
K&N drop in air filter + take out the 2 mesh screens in the intake
Agency power underdrive pulley
premix at 200:1 or more
That will make a noticable difference - just don't take on any STIs or EVOs
edit: and taking out both the mesh screens could effect idle, but racing beat did say that they saw about 1 hp increase for every screen you take out, seein as you put this up, how is your idle with both the screens out?
10-22-2007, 11:17 AM
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actually i beg to differ, there were 2 stock rx8's at the track this weekend for the races, and they were getting between 63 and 67 seconds, the evos and sti's which were running high boost, were running 65-70 second runs. So we are doing damn good for stock, and if you got all that stuff, you could make it into the 59-63 range, and practice makes perfect, your car is quicker stock than you expect, just put it on the right road
edit: and taking out both the mesh screens could effect idle, but racing beat did say that they saw about 1 hp increase for every screen you take out, seein as you put this up, how is your idle with both the screens out?
edit: and taking out both the mesh screens could effect idle, but racing beat did say that they saw about 1 hp increase for every screen you take out, seein as you put this up, how is your idle with both the screens out?
and I think its just that most *STI/EVO* people on your track does not know how to drive ...
10-22-2007, 11:21 AM
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"Unfortunately, each screen costs about 1 HP at high RPM, so using fewer screens is an advantage."
here is the link
http://racingbeat.com/FRmazda4.htm
it is the first sentence under the picture of the air horn/filter
edit: i talked to the guys with the evos and sti's and that wasnt their first time there, a lot of them have been going there for years.
here is the link
http://racingbeat.com/FRmazda4.htm
it is the first sentence under the picture of the air horn/filter
edit: i talked to the guys with the evos and sti's and that wasnt their first time there, a lot of them have been going there for years.
10-22-2007, 11:43 AM
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nitrous or lightweight rims.
im pretty sure nitrous isnt a maintainence heavy item. but i dont really know anything on the topic. also, for ever 1lb you reduce off unsprung weight (like the rims) it is equal to 4lbs off the rest of the car.
so lets say our rims weigh 22 lbs each. and you go to some rims that weigh 17lbs each. thats 5x4(for unsprung weight) x4 (for each tire). = 100lbs off the car. you will feel the difference.
im pretty sure nitrous isnt a maintainence heavy item. but i dont really know anything on the topic. also, for ever 1lb you reduce off unsprung weight (like the rims) it is equal to 4lbs off the rest of the car.
so lets say our rims weigh 22 lbs each. and you go to some rims that weigh 17lbs each. thats 5x4(for unsprung weight) x4 (for each tire). = 100lbs off the car. you will feel the difference.
Anyone know where I can get any info on tire weights(Not the stick on type
) besides Edge Racing?
10-22-2007, 01:17 PM
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or save a thousand bucks over the int-x and get an e-manage (or spend < $200 for a used unit) and get the same results.... or just get a flash for not a whole lot of more money then an e-manage
10-22-2007, 01:36 PM
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sorry taj, adhd, and yes rotor, i would just go with the rb reflash, i have done a lot of reading over the past week about the int-x, and it seems overpriced, to complicated for me right now, and i have seen the same results from guys who just have the reflash and various bolt-ons. I know people like the int-x, but it just isnt for me, unless i go FI, then it will totally be worth the 1500.
10-22-2007, 01:56 PM
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actually i beg to differ, there were 2 stock rx8's at the track this weekend for the races, and they were getting between 63 and 67 seconds, the evos and sti's which were running high boost, were running 65-70 second runs. So we are doing damn good for stock, and if you got all that stuff, you could make it into the 59-63 range, and practice makes perfect, your car is quicker stock than you expect, just put it on the right road
edit: and taking out both the mesh screens could effect idle, but racing beat did say that they saw about 1 hp increase for every screen you take out, seein as you put this up, how is your idle with both the screens out?
edit: and taking out both the mesh screens could effect idle, but racing beat did say that they saw about 1 hp increase for every screen you take out, seein as you put this up, how is your idle with both the screens out?
As for the Evo STI thing you are wrong & right depending on how you look at it .
In a straight line they will still pull on you but on a really tight track you can keep up and even pass if you are a good enough driver.
10-22-2007, 09:26 PM
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1. Nitrous
2. Flywheel
3. Suspention
Pick one. Listen in order of decreasing gains. Nitrous is sweet and very easy to do. +50HP wet shot works on a stock car. Look at the sticky by "Charles R. Hill"
Personally I got the flywheel cos I was getting the clutch done anyway, but I love it! Definitely the best kick in the butt you will get from this car short of FI. Nitrous kits are $800-ish... You can install it yourself and use the money left over for refills... Turbo starts around $3k if you're very lucky and competent, and on up to 10k or more.
Suspention mods will net you little in a straight line, but she will be lots of fun around the corners and the track. That's what the car was built for anyway.
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If you want to make a GOOD investment (one that you will be happy with months and years down the line) read the threads floating around the forum. The worst thing you can do is take someone's personal opinion, blow your cash, then realize later that you would have been happier with something else.
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2. Flywheel
3. Suspention
Pick one. Listen in order of decreasing gains. Nitrous is sweet and very easy to do. +50HP wet shot works on a stock car. Look at the sticky by "Charles R. Hill"
Personally I got the flywheel cos I was getting the clutch done anyway, but I love it! Definitely the best kick in the butt you will get from this car short of FI. Nitrous kits are $800-ish... You can install it yourself and use the money left over for refills... Turbo starts around $3k if you're very lucky and competent, and on up to 10k or more.
Suspention mods will net you little in a straight line, but she will be lots of fun around the corners and the track. That's what the car was built for anyway.
Forgot to add one step
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If you want to make a GOOD investment (one that you will be happy with months and years down the line) read the threads floating around the forum. The worst thing you can do is take someone's personal opinion, blow your cash, then realize later that you would have been happier with something else.
-D
But a block of TI & a mill?
10-23-2007, 07:41 AM
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1. Nitrous
2. Flywheel
3. Suspention
Pick one. Listen in order of decreasing gains. Nitrous is sweet and very easy to do. +50HP wet shot works on a stock car. Look at the sticky by "Charles R. Hill"
Personally I got the flywheel cos I was getting the clutch done anyway, but I love it! Definitely the best kick in the butt you will get from this car short of FI. Nitrous kits are $800-ish... You can install it yourself and use the money left over for refills... Turbo starts around $3k if you're very lucky and competent, and on up to 10k or more.
Suspention mods will net you little in a straight line, but she will be lots of fun around the corners and the track. That's what the car was built for anyway.
Forgot to add one step
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If you want to make a GOOD investment (one that you will be happy with months and years down the line) read the threads floating around the forum. The worst thing you can do is take someone's personal opinion, blow your cash, then realize later that you would have been happier with something else.
-D
2. Flywheel
3. Suspention
Pick one. Listen in order of decreasing gains. Nitrous is sweet and very easy to do. +50HP wet shot works on a stock car. Look at the sticky by "Charles R. Hill"
Personally I got the flywheel cos I was getting the clutch done anyway, but I love it! Definitely the best kick in the butt you will get from this car short of FI. Nitrous kits are $800-ish... You can install it yourself and use the money left over for refills... Turbo starts around $3k if you're very lucky and competent, and on up to 10k or more.
Suspention mods will net you little in a straight line, but she will be lots of fun around the corners and the track. That's what the car was built for anyway.
Forgot to add one step
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If you want to make a GOOD investment (one that you will be happy with months and years down the line) read the threads floating around the forum. The worst thing you can do is take someone's personal opinion, blow your cash, then realize later that you would have been happier with something else.
-D
10-23-2007, 08:32 AM
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That's where I disagree with you. A LOT is a big word. I went from 26 lbs rims to 17 lbs rims, and while the change was nice, it doesn't rank high in performance gains for the daily driver. I could feel the change, but it wasn't significant. So a person with a stock RX-8 who has 22 or 24 lbs rims going to a 18 or 19 lbs rims is not getting a lot of gain for the dollar.
10-23-2007, 11:33 AM
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i believe they are infront and behind of the MAP sensor, if you take off the hose from air filter box, and look down it, you should see two screens, if you take those out, more air can get into the engne, just watch your idle, and make sure you have a good filter like a k&n so it can actually get more air
10-23-2007, 11:39 AM
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