Raptor2k

omg!111

MazsportScott

Perhaps a group buy?

staticlag

perhaps

cavemancan

Brillo,

I am not sure if you are familiar with the problems the CZ (CanZoomer) unit had but it had something to do with the RX-8's MAF sensor being significantly different from car to car. This is why the CZ unit failed...apparently there was some sort of voltage difference in each MAF sensor. They were minor differences but enough to cause the CZ unit not to work properly (Many case the car lost power...I.E. the ECU learned). I do not have all the information on this but I thought it would be a good idea to let Scott know about this before he starts selling this product and potentially sell something to us that does not always work.

Let us know what he says...

MazsportScott

Thanks for the input, I felt the best way to solve a problem is to eliminate the "problem". The Interceptor-X E.M.S. uses a map sensor (among others) to make the required engine management calculations.

olddragger

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Caveman--this is a stand alone ecu--not a piggy back like CZ's--totally differant animal.
Once the settings are in --its done.
olddragger

rotarygod

He used to have a Canzoomer. The Canzoomer bases all of it's tuning off of the maf sensor. The Interceptor doesn't look at it at all.

Nemesis8

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Where is the MAP located on the intake for the Int-X

zoom44

uggh. this is simply not the case. there is a SMALL variation in SOME MAFs but realistically its pratically insignificant. most of what has been seen can probably be attributed to which MAFS is dirtier when comparing them. none of them was ever pulled from the car and tested on a proper flow bench for comparison. there is more variation in the fuel injectors.

the CZ didnt fail- many people still use it and when used properly it does just fine. but it needs to be tuned for each car(because the cz is not able to adjust on the fly) and the tuner needs to make sure they arent touching closed loop areas of the maps. thats when it runs up against LTFT.

Scotts Product is already well tested and proven by endusers. Its also not a piggy back/ fooler like the cz/emanage. It has full control over the fuel and timing. So it never has to wrestle with LTFT or anything else the PCM thinks it should do with fuel/timing management.

MazsportScott

The nipple for the map sensor is at the front of the unit and I prefer to route the hose to the nipple just behind the throttle body to obtain the cleanest signal. However if the user would like you can switch to T.P.S. mode and do all of the tuning based on Throttle position/engine R.P.M. Some users may not want to have an extra vac. hose under the hood.

MazsportScott

I dont know if everyone was aware, we are doing a group buy in our Mazsport subforum. BTW, this was o.k.'d by Ryan when he was at the shop. Thanks Scott

cavemancan

Thanks for all the reply's guys...very informative. I guess it was the whole plug N play capabilities that kinda had me thinking it was a piggy back but I realize I was mistaken.

I would love 2 have this unit. BTW...if you get additional mods after the purchase of the interceptor is there a charge 2 retune?

Thanks!

MazsportScott

If you use our wideband plug-in o2 then you can datalog a few runs, analize the data, make the changes in real time and tune it yourself. If you return to the dyno I assume they would have a charge for use of the dyno equipment. Scott

TALAN7

What kind of (if any) gas mileage increase can we expect with the Interceptor?

olddragger

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You may want to consider an ignition upgrade when this unit is installed. Not that the unit will cause problems with proper tuning. But rather we do have weak coils/wires on the stock system(performance speaking) MM is working on a complete set up for the 8.
olddragger

MazsportScott

Although the coils are not stellar I must report that I have not had a single coil failure reported with anyone using the Interceptor-X.

Broker73

Thanks for all your time into this, and I am interested in the recent group buy. Now here is a question that has probably been answered before, but can I simply plug it in and go. I do not have the time or knowledge to tune myself, and the experience with the CZ unit soured me a bit?

Sorry if this is a repeat question, and I am sure tuning will maximize results, but I assume the unit will still provide decent gains without tuning to a specific car.

olddragger

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Scott---I definitely do not mean to infer that your unit would CAUSE coil problems. But with a tuneable unit and some people maybe getting overzealous etc I thought since they are willing to spend a rather good amount of money(for good returns I may add), time and effort--then why not go ahead and make the car a little more bullet proof. The ignition system in our car (coils/wires and plugs) seem to be requiring a little more mantainance than oridginally thought when top performance is being required. Since each mod requires a little more tweaking to get the best results out of it, why not go ahead and make the ignition change part of the transformation.
great work man--wish I had the money-- want to buy a dog?
olddragger

TeamRX8

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and the coils seem to go off slightly more than just die, so an owner could be having the issue without it being readily noticable

MazsportScott

Yes you can plug it in and go. With the Interceptor-X we have complete fuel and ignition control so there is no manilpulating of the factory signals. When comparing results of cars in similar parts of the country, the results so far have been very consistant increases. There are variations of course, altitude, selection of bolt-on components and general engine condition all come into play and as always you will get the best results if you have the car tuned. Several customers that are on this board have had good success tuning the unit themselves.

MazsportScott

Olddragger and anyone else with coil concerns,
Just FYI, The coil dwell time in the Interceptor-X is user definable with just a few keystrokes. I have been testing the Interceptor-X for a year now and after finding their limits early on, have set the dwell time to that which has caused no failures. Your right, they are not the best coils available on the open market and so they may require abit more attention than other cars.

epitrochoid

I'm just going to cut the top of the ecu lid off and fiberglass a riser in, sand it flush and paint it...shouldn't take more than a weekend since there's nothing structural about it. just some time, glass supplies which I have laying around, and some balsa wood to hold it together until the resin dries.

I'll see how it goes, if it's easy enough I might be able to do some for other people

MazsportScott

For the record there has not been a single failure of the Interceptor-X due to water or any other problem for that matter. I do appreciate your concerns Hskr8 but spending time on a solution to a problem that is not a problem seems well, like added consumer cost. If somone were to pop the hood and aim for the opening of the unit and proceed to pressure wash the face of the unit, it may be a problem. What is the easiest and most cost effective soloution to this hypothetical problem? After the user has completed the tuning process, disconnect the DB9 cable from the front of the unit. Reinstall the factory Mazda rubber grommet that surrounds the cooling chambers in the factory location and reinstall the lid. This will leave a <1/2 in. opening at a small section of the ECU case which if anyone is interested I will be happy to ship a small piece of insulating material to. Thanks for your support and feedback, Scott

epitrochoid

every rose has its thorn!

I just like to do things like that because im very **** about maintaining the OEM fit and finish of the car, as im sure most of us are. Plus when the whole world has interceptor-x's, I'll have a custom lid!

i can hear the girls callin my name already :D

olddragger

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Good discussion--one thing to add. I know there has never been a known ecu failure from the heat under the hood and that modern electronics are designed to take more heat than ever--but--i like to cool things off as much as possible. I find that a lot of things work better cooler and certainly last longer. the ecu box has cold air intake already(could use a little more imo). It doesnt work well---just wait til this summer--90degree day, usual suburb/city type driving--drive for an hr, stop take off the ecu cover and put your hand on the ecu--it will be so hot you cant keep your hand on it comfortably.
So my point is that this gap in the cover could be used for increased ventilation/cooling for this unit. Dont seal it up so tight-let your baby breathe a little more. Use a breatheable type of gap sealer on it that would keep water/dust out but let a little air circulate. Cut up an old K/N filter laying around and use that.
rotor on
olddragger