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12-09-2005 | 12:11 PM
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It's out, has this been posted?
Not sure if this has been posted but, here goes:
http://www.racingbeat.com/resultset....rtnumber=16396
Kinda too late --damn ! I just got my Borla's put on last week.
http://www.racingbeat.com/resultset....rtnumber=16396
Kinda too late --damn ! I just got my Borla's put on last week.
12-09-2005 | 12:55 PM
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Yet again, Racing Beat is claiming 5HP increase with absolutely nothing connected to the engine. Even their racing exhaust is doing no much better than the earlier version with less baffles and less restrictions. Meanwhile, I believe JIC is saying otherwise (in excess of 10HP) with their muffler. How in the name of God is this possible? Someone is pulling our leg here. I strongly believe Racing Beat have no motive to lie to us, but JIC has said it showed the significant gains on a dyno. Who is right?
12-09-2005 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by moRotorMotor
Yet again, Racing Beat is claiming 5HP increase with absolutely nothing connected to the engine. Even their racing exhaust is doing no much better than the earlier version with less baffles and less restrictions. Meanwhile, I believe JIC is saying otherwise (in excess of 10HP) with their muffler. How in the name of God is this possible? Someone is pulling our leg here. I strongly believe Racing Beat have no motive to lie to us, but JIC has said it showed the significant gains on a dyno. Who is right?
Racing Beat has no motive to lie? Its called having to give people a way to justify buying their exhaust when it picks up half the power of other companies, weighs more then everyonele's, and costs the same.
12-09-2005 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by r0tor
Racing Beat has no motive to lie? Its called having to give people a way to justify buying their exhaust when it picks up half the power of other companies, weighs more then everyonele's, and costs the same.
My guess is RB tells the truth, the other companies embellish it a bit.
12-09-2005 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Tigster
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I think it would look funny on the 8 with a stock bumper the left side would be empty.
I think it would look funny on the 8 with a stock bumper the left side would be empty.
Sorry Tigster--it's funny as hell.
12-09-2005 | 01:47 PM
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Racing Beat is the only company I know that have engine dynoed our Renesis. Not to mention there connection with Mazda. Why would Racing Beat have an engine dyno only to not give us the real answer, and 'fabricate' such a low number? Are all the other companies lying? There are a lot of biased members on this forum that favor Racing Beat and vise versa. However, this is their version of their 'no holds barred' exhaust system. Other than the fact that they didn't use exotic metals like titanium to further lighten the weight and chose stainless for durability/cost reasons and sound levels to 92dB, this was there best effort. It all comes down the that engine dyno. Have there been a member on this forum who have actually dynoed an exhaust system that have proved Racing Beat wrong?
12-09-2005 | 02:31 PM
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I have a JIC Titanium on my car right now. No more than 3-4 hp gain across the rev range, so their claims are BS (more about the weight savings for me). Also, I haven't seen a midpipe give more than 8-9 hp so that is pretty legit. I have the RP Supercat on my car right now.
Look at Polak's dynoes with exhaust, & flywheel & clutch added in he got about 10 hp at the top end (and lost a bit of tq).
Look at Polak's dynoes with exhaust, & flywheel & clutch added in he got about 10 hp at the top end (and lost a bit of tq).
12-09-2005 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by cleoent
I find it hard to believe that a company who has been specializing in rotary performance for over 2 decades cant manage to put out a better system then the other vendors.
My guess is RB tells the truth, the other companies embellish it a bit.
My guess is RB tells the truth, the other companies embellish it a bit.
12-09-2005 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Tigster
I think it would look funny on the 8 with a stock bumper the left side would be empty.
12-09-2005 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by r0tor
well, other exhaust companies design their mufflers/piping/ect... RB is getting mufflers supplied to them and are just fitting them with the correct piping -shrug-
12-09-2005 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Nemesis8
It does not protrude through the rear bumper opening. It terminates behind the bumper cover and points down.
So you dont see it at all? I'd have to see pics of that hard to decide what it would look like. Thanks for clearing it up though
12-09-2005 | 04:06 PM
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How about a photochop? I can only delete - I cannot draw worth a damn. I asked Jim at RB to post uip a installed pic, so let's see if he comes through.
I was going to make a custon one-off rear bumper cover, and change the openings to something else, but to exactly what, I'm not sure. Just thinking about it...
I was going to make a custon one-off rear bumper cover, and change the openings to something else, but to exactly what, I'm not sure. Just thinking about it...
12-09-2005 | 04:10 PM
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So two questions. 1) why is it not closer to half the weight of stock...or more? (actually it is close to half the weight of their dual muffler system, which is heavier than stock, so I guess I answered my own question) 2) Is it sans the neck-down at the cat, i.e. is it 3 inch all the way through?
Also, has anyone ever just taken off that black facia on a stock rear bumper? Any pics? If you did that it would give a nice view under the car. Very Evo like.
Also, has anyone ever just taken off that black facia on a stock rear bumper? Any pics? If you did that it would give a nice view under the car. Very Evo like.
12-09-2005 | 04:26 PM
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Hum.. . How about cutting it off? COuld someone do a photochop for me? I realize this could be very hard cause you need to take the bumper off and take a pic.
A very astute friend of mine noted that the midpipe is not shown in the pic. I assume they will ship with the mid from the dualie?
A very astute friend of mine noted that the midpipe is not shown in the pic. I assume they will ship with the mid from the dualie?
12-09-2005 | 04:40 PM
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LOL, nothing like people in denial ... some of us knew what you now see from TurboXS a long time ago
even funnier that their racing exhaust weighs as much as the competition's street exhaust
even funnier that their racing exhaust weighs as much as the competition's street exhaust
Last edited by TeamRX8; 12-09-2005 at 04:44 PM.
12-09-2005 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
even funnier that their racing exhaust weighs as much as the competition's street exhaust
Originally Posted by TeamRX8
LOL, nothing like people in denial
Last edited by carbonRX8; 12-09-2005 at 05:16 PM.
12-09-2005 | 05:27 PM
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you'll figure it out one day ... 
Actually it would be very easy to design and produce a single piece lower rear bumper center insert where you would remove the two side surrounds and cut off the attached center piece of the OE bumper and replace them with a new separate, single piece that fills the entire area. You could offer both a dual tip or single center tip outlet design ...
Actually it would be very easy to design and produce a single piece lower rear bumper center insert where you would remove the two side surrounds and cut off the attached center piece of the OE bumper and replace them with a new separate, single piece that fills the entire area. You could offer both a dual tip or single center tip outlet design ...
12-09-2005 | 06:17 PM
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I would like to at least hear a sound clip of this setup. I'm looking at a daily driver setup. I know I could go lighter with a one-off custom for track days, but a nice sound would be really cool. I'm a little loud right now with my setup, and those that have the same as me can agree. If pointing the single tip straight down helps, and it is a "more exotic sound like that of a tuned V-6 engine", then this seems interesting to study.