trigger13

So I've been thinking about buying an RX-8 for a very long time now. Probably for about 4 years or so. I'm only 18, going on 19 in January, so clearly I haven't been able to afford such an amazing piece of machinery. But I've been trying to do research on them because if I buy one, I want to make it fast. So my questions to you good people of rx8club.com are:

Can and automatic be as fast or faster than a manual?

Whats the fastest quarter-mile times (without nitrous) have been reached with automatic RX-8's?

Whats the fastest quarter-mile times (without nitrous) have been reached with manual RX-8's?

What is the best year/trim to try to make fastest?

And finally, which do you recommend as being the fastest, manual or automatic? Please explain your reasoning.

I really appreciate anyone's input. I'm a huge enthusiast and as soon as I finish paying off my current car, I'm gonna sell it and use the money to put down on an RX-8.

nuke0907

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this thread is not gonna last long.

trigger13

Why not? Is this not where it should be or against forum rules or something?

RyanX-8

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Naw.... these questions have been asked a million times and all the old farts that come on here will get mad and tear you a new one. "Use the search button" AT is slower stock to the manual... I dunno times.

nuke0907

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its not a matter if its an AT or MT. what matters is if its a 4 port or 6 port. the 4 port has lower HP numbers than a 6 port. your questions of "which one is faster?" just starts a flame war which is pointless and against forum rules.

RyanX-8

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^ Yeah forgot to mention ports

trigger13

I didn't mean which is fastest stock, I should've been more specific. I meant which one has the most potential? Can automatics take as much power that a manual can handle?

And this is going to show how car ignorant I am, but what do you mean by 4 port or 6 port?

Edit:

Then I guess my next question would be, which RX-8's are 6 port?

05rex8

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MT is always going to have more potential. Although there are a few turbo'd 4 port AT's around. 06 AT and up have a six speed auto tranny with a 6 port engine. 04 and 05 AT's are 4 port. All MT in the US have 6 port engines. Please search next time, we have too many threads like this already.

expo1

Your post indicates you main concern is straight line performance. The RX-8 was not designed to be a 1/4 mile car and making it fast in the 1/4 is expensive and un-reliable. You should really think about what you want out of a car so you are not disappointed. That said The AT RX-8 have an engine that makes less power than an 6-speed. The difference is large on the 04-07, not so much on 08-09. The only way to get an AT or even an 6-speed to compete with cars such as v-8 mustangs is spending about 5-7 grand on turbo / sc which is not an bolt on item on this car. Speed cost money, how fast do you want to go??

deadphoenix52

start reading, then ask questions. dont expect other people to do your homework for you. its YOUR car, not mine, i've already got one.

trigger13

I was wanting to know what all it would take to get an RX-8 into the low 12's high 11's. Maybe lower if thats even possible.

I want to be different than Evo's and WRX's. I like the design of those cars, but I love the RX-8.

So basically you're telling me that if I'm looking for a car that can have in the upwards of 450+ horsepower I need to start looking somewhere else?

If it were possible I would like to get an RX-8 up to that type of performance. Money is not an object. I'm not worried about spending thousands on making it quick, I just want to know if it's even possible to get it to be that fast and be a daily driver.

Is it not worth it to make it that fast because I would be replacing tranny's, clutches and parts like mad?

Brettus

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/\ of course you can do it if money is no object .
Currently no-one has gotten the renesis much over 400hp so you will need a different motor

BTW , There are already turboed 20B 8s that have done 6sec 1/4s .

trigger13

So I would need a new motor to hit over 450? That sucks. I wanted to pretty much do everything I could with how it comes stock without changing motors. I like the renesis motor. Hmm.. that sucks.

RyanX-8

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Rx7 is a good option... Still rotary

Brettus

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how fast is fast ?
I'm sure a renesis powered 8 with a well tuned FI setup producing 350hp odd would be capable of mid 12s 1/4s .

trigger13

So at the best I couldn't even hold a candle to tuned evo's and wrx's?

expo1

In the looks department you have them beat. Also in lower cost auto ins. The RX-8 is also an easier car to drive on a road course. The real smart thing is not to care about how fast the other car can go in a straight line. All that proves is who can spend money better. A 12 sec renesis powered RX-8 is a rare and expensive car.

Easy_E1

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I have a 4 port AT that is faster then some stock 6 port 6 speeds on the road course and auto crossing, I attribute that to driving skills though. My 4 port also puts out more HP than some NA 6 ports. and it's faster then some. I attribute that to Nitrous and tuning.
Mine is an exception though.

trigger13

Well, then maybe I'll just try to get a 12sec. renesis when I finally get an RX-8. Thanks for the tips you guys. I'll be sure to get a MT. Any suggestions on trim/year? At least in terms of mod-ability.

Brettus

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/\ - maybe you wont hand modded evo owners a hiding - but you would have a very special car

trigger13

Ok. That'll be my goal then. Getting over 450 HP and low 12s. Na dhopefully not destroying the car getting it that fast. :P

greg985

i hope you have A LOT of money

trigger13

I sure don't! But I can save. If I can afford to pay off the car then I can sure as hell afford to mod it.

swoope

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ok,

so you have been thinking as long as most of us have been owning?

wow good job.

and reading how long?? pubbs coming in yet?

how about you cant afford 300 hp much less the car.

i love dreams. a photo would get you in the 185hp game..

sorry..

beers

greg985

^LOL swoop the dream crusher haha

your talking $10,000+ range kid