MAZDASPEED out april next year!
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MAZDASPEED out april next year!
Just called MNAO , asked and they just got notice its coming next year! performance figures are estimated to be close to 300 hp! supercharged also. Still being worked on in japan though. !!! nice! He says regular rx-8 owners won't be able to buy parts to convert to mazdaspeed though ... kinda sucks ... gotta buy a whole new mazdaspped rx-8 , he says our cars can "look" like one with the body kit tho lol :p
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Originally Posted by JasonHamilton
Odd that they'd be telling you this before any announcements.
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oh ya, not to mention ... I asked if flooding was covered under warranty ... he said no , he thought it meant like river flooding ... 8/ maybe this isn't a reliable source
#8
Actually they have announced the MS6:
http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/disp...er=mazdaSpeed6
Looks pretty wicked.
http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/disp...er=mazdaSpeed6
Looks pretty wicked.
#12
Not sure if I believe that a MNA rep leaked info out this early-- but I do have confidence that the MSRX8 will have forced induction, just have to be patient--all the same as I won't be trading my 8 in for one for at least 4-5 years.
#13
Ya, don 't trade it in... just buy the MS version like I will, and keep the current one as my daily driver. :P
It will be supercharged that's for sure... already seen the SC on the freeway near Mazda HQ USA.
It will be supercharged that's for sure... already seen the SC on the freeway near Mazda HQ USA.
#16
The thing about MS is, they don't just bolt a blower and new springs on the base model and call it good. Many parts of the car are re-engineered to meet the new performance demands. The MS Miata, for example, has many changed parts that are not part of the turbo itself, such as, say, reinforced motor mounts, or changes to suspension bushings. So I can understand why Mazda wouldn't release a kit - there are just too many changes to make that practical.
Besides, if history is anything to judge by, the aftermarket will have plenty of alternatives to choose from, many being more powerful than the MS offering.
George
Besides, if history is anything to judge by, the aftermarket will have plenty of alternatives to choose from, many being more powerful than the MS offering.
George
#17
I don't believe that time table, maybe by this time next year, but no sooner. Even if they don't offer it as a it, who cares, the real benefit will be all the kits that will come from people reverse engineering it. Let Mazda do all the R&D work and figure out how much it can safely handle.
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If this is true, I'm curious to see how the specs of the engine will or won't change. Either way, I'll stick with what the aftermarket can produce instead of relying on Mazdaspeed.
#20
I'm not going to say this is or isn't true. I just want you guys to think about this though.
Back in 1986 the 2nd generation RX-7 became available. Actually it was late '85 as an '86 model. This model came equipped with a 146hp 6 port 13B engine. One year later the Turbo II hit the market. This car at 170hp didn't only have a turbo added. It was a new engine, now a 4 port 13B with an entirely different ecu, an intercooler, turbo, different transmission, different clutch/flywheel, different starter, different driveshaft, rear end, half shafts, brakes, wheels, etc... Even the sway bars were larger. It also had different seats. There were an awful lot of differences. If someone wants to convert a nonturbo to a turbo II, it is almost easier to just buy a T-II.
Remember that all of these changes were in just 1 model year. The only way this was possible is because they had planned it and were working on it all along. It is highly possible that Mazda has a forced induction MS RX-8 already in the works. Until they actually come out and admit it to the public, we don't know for sure. Don't be so quick to either agree or disagree. Mazda doesn't tell us what they are working on until it is about to be released. If Mazda actually did admit to someone that there is one being released in April, we'll find out soon enough.
Back in 1986 the 2nd generation RX-7 became available. Actually it was late '85 as an '86 model. This model came equipped with a 146hp 6 port 13B engine. One year later the Turbo II hit the market. This car at 170hp didn't only have a turbo added. It was a new engine, now a 4 port 13B with an entirely different ecu, an intercooler, turbo, different transmission, different clutch/flywheel, different starter, different driveshaft, rear end, half shafts, brakes, wheels, etc... Even the sway bars were larger. It also had different seats. There were an awful lot of differences. If someone wants to convert a nonturbo to a turbo II, it is almost easier to just buy a T-II.
Remember that all of these changes were in just 1 model year. The only way this was possible is because they had planned it and were working on it all along. It is highly possible that Mazda has a forced induction MS RX-8 already in the works. Until they actually come out and admit it to the public, we don't know for sure. Don't be so quick to either agree or disagree. Mazda doesn't tell us what they are working on until it is about to be released. If Mazda actually did admit to someone that there is one being released in April, we'll find out soon enough.
#21
nope call call back and ask for the same person again. they were talking about the MS6 and not the 8. there is NO official announcement about the MS8. it took 2 years to develop the MS6 and thats what it will take for the 8. so expect an announcement about this time next year for one in 2006.
#22
I would expect RXTuner or other publications with some inside info to have published this if it was true, instead of just someone there answering phone calls telling people that. :P Wouldn't that seem more logical?
#23
Originally Posted by GeorgeH
The thing about MS is, they don't just bolt a blower and new springs on the base model and call it good. Many parts of the car are re-engineered to meet the new performance demands. The MS Miata, for example, has many changed parts that are not part of the turbo itself, such as, say, reinforced motor mounts, or changes to suspension bushings. So I can understand why Mazda wouldn't release a kit - there are just too many changes to make that practical.
Besides, if history is anything to judge by, the aftermarket will have plenty of alternatives to choose from, many being more powerful than the MS offering.
George
Besides, if history is anything to judge by, the aftermarket will have plenty of alternatives to choose from, many being more powerful than the MS offering.
George
but thats just MO.
#25
Exactly--I expect to see the MS8 in showrooms as a 2006 model. No doubt that they are working on one--the reason it is taking so long to bring to market would have to be due to development of more power--because if it was cosmetic only ala Shinka--it would be out very very soon.