in fact he showed me the list and there have been lots updates.at least 10 to each letter.

 

Found out from a friend at the dealership that there is indeed an "update" as follows:

WDS Release Level B31_5, 5/21/2004 9:43:36 AM.

As far as "restore lost power in the high rev band" he didn't see that. He did find the info below......


P2107/P2108/P2402/P0420 LACK OF POWER / PINGING
Applicable Models
Model Starting S/N Ending S/N
2004 RX8 40100001 40135537

Some vehicles may experience a check engine light and / or a lack of power / engine pinging. The cause may be due to incorrect logic in the PCM. Customers with lack of power / pinging, or the following DTCs stored in PCM memory should have their vehicles repaired using the repair procedure. P2107-Throttle actuator control module processor error. P2108-Throttle actuator control module performance error. P2402-EVAP system leak detection pump control circuit high. P0420-Catalyst system efficiency below threshold. 1) Verify concern. 2) Check current PCM calibration by accessing mode 9 using WDS. WDS menu- POWERTRAIN - OBD TEST MODES - MODE 9 VEHICLE INFORMATION. 3) If calibration level is not at or above "M" proceed to next step. If calibration is at or above "M", consult WSM for diagnosis. NOTE: mode 9 calibration is displayed as N3H*EL000********. The digit following the "E" is the current calibration level of the PCM. 4) Reprogram PCM using WDS. Update WDS to version B28.0.11 or later if necessary. 5) Clear all DTCs. 6) Verify repairs. VEHICLE TRANS TYPE Filename New PCM Cal. P/N Manual transmission SW-N3H6EM000 N3H6-18-881M Auto transmission SW-N3H4EM000 N3H4-18-881M NOTE: * WDS shows the calibration part number after programming the PCM. * Please be aware that PCM calibration part numbers and file names listed in any service message may change due to future releases of WDS software and additional revisions made to those calibrations for service related concerns. WDS PCM reprogramming will always display the "latest" calibration P/N available for that vehicle. If any calibration has been revised/updated to contain new information for a new service concern/issue, it will also contain all previously released calibrations. Install PCM calibration label with revised PCM calibration part # in the appropriate location. After performing the PCM reprogramming it is necessary to road test the vehicle to relearn KAM strategy and verify no MIL illumination or DTC's are present.

 

Could Either of you Guys get a picture of the Service sticker under your hood or by the drivers side door which indicates which flash they put on.

I really don't think they have anything past M according to the site where mazda downloads their WDS configs.

 

Latest flash is still 'M'. Only a new "update" to M is available, (whatever that means). I'll be asking the service deptartment.

 

The only "disc" the dealer needs is for a Major update IE 30.XX to 31.XX. All minor upgrades are done on a floppy directly from the Mz ESI site.

http://forum.mazda6tech.com/viewtopic.php?t=15

 

yes he was trying to download to a floopy disk. but was unable too.

 

i thought it was to add hp?

 

I have it from a reliable, inside Mazda source that there is no "N" flash yet. The most current version you can get it "M."

 

Just got back from Mazda. They said their latest RX8 flash was from 2 weeks ago. The flash number is N3H6-18881-M. I will update the mileage with time and update any changes I feel.

 

How do i say this, since i am not very computer savy i belive i might have spoken out of line. sorry. new here . All i can find on my invoice are the following numbers reflash pcm 08-8z a 5555-nt-egi (o). What does this mean?

 

My numbers were printed on a sticker that they put on the inside wall of the driver side passenger door. Sorry that I wont be able to help you on that one EMB. Mazda really shoud simplify this!! Actually, its not just Mazda... its all of these companies trying to get more and more out of a computerized engine. I miss the old days with my 79 Camero. I could work on that 350 ci engine by sitting inside the engine compartement! Changing the water pump was a 45 minute process... not something where I would have to pull the engine. Though, this rotary engine is amazing. Everytime I go down the road I keep thinking... my engine has 5 moving parts and is the size of a mail box ~smiling~

 

The 08/8Z are the symtom and correction codes.

5555-NT-EGI is the labor operation code the dealer submitted to Mz for reimbursment.

Funny thing is the op code doesn't match the code in the TSB.

They submitted a claim that basically reads.

08--you thought you had a problem

8Z--they tested it and found nothing wrong

NT-EGI-- pay me for my time

 

Snap On... Any ideas if the flash I got today was something new or an old one that I was just missing?

 

I was at the dealership today. Friends with service writer. They updated their WDC this morning. They told me there is no new flash available.

 

Thank you Snap on. you seem to know a great deal i will watch your post. it is funny because i was told that when they hooked it up , that i did have the older one and needed the new one. they did drive the car away after they where complete to test it. as i look at this invoice they corrected the above pcm but i can not find what they corrected it to . if it was corrected to the above reflash is that the lastest m flash? Dam im getting confused. so you think they did nothing?

 

No, they most likely updated you from "K" to "L" or "L" to "M" or "K" to "M" or... Point being, they just brought you up to date.

 

I think you are right Omicron. On page 5 of "how about and update" at Canzoomers sight, RX8 friend explains that Maurice found the "M" flash he recently installed showed much improved power than the previous flashes, especially in the upper RPM band. Although I was really hoping Mazda would have a flash to restore original H.P. specs and much improved MPG.

 

Maurice didnt actually dyno the car with m flash from what i understand to prove he made more hp on the other hand someone did and LOST about 20 hp on the dyno.

 

Hskr8, I see it. Sorry for the ill advised url. Somehow I thought it was in realtion to the original posters new flash as he read to correct loss of power in the 6-7 rpm range.... Don't ask, it was early!

 

Yes it is getting crazy. It seems that some people are happy with the "M" flash and canzoomers 1.1 stage. I think it's a good time to get the cable upgrade.

 

I think the cable is next on my list of things to buy. Just received my stage 1 yesterday but have not installed it yet (been working my a$$ off).

 

Did you get the "M" flash yet? let us know how you like it!

 

Yes, I have the M flash. When I went to the dealer on 6/1, I already had the M flash. They compared my car to the WDC (which they had updated that morning) and there were no updates available.

I will definitely let you guys know how it feels once the stage 1 is installed. I might be able to install it tomorrow after work but if not, then it will probably not be until Sunday because I have a wedding to go to on Saturday.

Hopefully I will have no problems but I am a little concerned about running lean because I live in S. FL, have an intake, have an exhaust, and have the M flash. Don't want to run too lean but we shall see. If I end up running lean and get pinging then I am going to remove the K&N and put my stock intake back on. I will then have a K&N with 2,000 miles on it for sale and I will sell it cheap.

 

I just had my car at the dealer today who was installing my SSR flywheel. Since I have had all my work done at my local dealer, I have developed a cool relationship with the service manager. When I picked the car up he told me he noticed there was a latest flash which I did not have. He said it was the M flash and that he installed it because he said Mazda had it listed as a recall ? I did not have a chance to test change or flywheel yet, but you know I will tomorrow.

 

SMigneco: Especially now that temps are up in the high 90s the last couple of days. That combined with high humidity and sea level can be a killer. Just make sure you use really good gas. I ordered the stage 2 kit and the highflow cat midpipe/resonator although I told Maurice to hold up on it because I thought there was a new flash from Mazda, after the confusion I ended up telling them to send it anyway and Michelle informed me that I didn't loose my place, to my relief.