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Old 12-07-2006 | 01:00 AM
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oil in intake?

so during the install of my AP pulleys i had to remove my AEM cai. (by preferrance) while i was doing so i notices a little oil in my intake tube and along the rubber connecters.. is this normal? what should i do? should i be concerned?
Old 12-07-2006 | 05:51 AM
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Theres a Search button at the top of the page.
Old 12-07-2006 | 10:29 AM
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Old 12-07-2006 | 05:28 PM
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and what do you suggest i search? oil in intake? cuz a billion threads come up that are irrelevent to my oil in the intake. if theres another name for this please let me know, obviously i have no clue about this situation so i dont quiet know what to search for
Old 12-07-2006 | 05:34 PM
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do you have that hose thats connect from the filler neck to the intake tube? oil is being pulled from the pvc system. its kinda normal on all cars. that is how we get carbon build up on the throttle body. you could use a sealed catch can, to accumulate the oil.
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Theres a Search button at the top of the page.

That is the most retarded thing to tell someone to search for. Either offer helpful advice or dont say anything. People like you are the reason I just read and never post.
Old 12-07-2006 | 08:14 PM
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i kno that its a different intake all together, but one time with my K&N i had an oil change and the guy spilt oil all over the engine bay and when i went to clean the intake filter there was a little oil behind the filter and some in the pipe itself. i dont kno if this helps but this is from my own experience.
Old 12-07-2006 | 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BLKrxEIGHT
That is the most retarded thing to tell someone to search for. Either offer helpful advice or dont say anything. People like you are the reason I just read and never post.
Actually it's not the most retarded thing to search for. This was a somewhat big issue for a lot of early rx8's who had oil pooling (noticeable amounts) in the intake. Tons of threads about it.
Old 12-08-2006 | 12:28 AM
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Seems to come from filling the oil tto fast or overfilling way too much.

Go to DIY to find a a bypass thread to vent the system.
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it is by over filling or a funnel that does not go below the top tube in the oil fill tube..

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Old 12-08-2006 | 04:04 AM
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Solution is simple: oil catch can. The problem is: where to mount it ?

I have tried to install it in at least 5 different spots, but it simply doesn't fit anywhere Main problem is the height. Next to the battery, next to the water bottle for the wipers, next to the master vac, next to the intake box, nothing......

Any ideas ?
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shorter catch can..

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Originally Posted by The Ace
Solution is simple: oil catch can. The problem is: where to mount it ?

I have tried to install it in at least 5 different spots, but it simply doesn't fit anywhere Main problem is the height. Next to the battery, next to the water bottle for the wipers, next to the master vac, next to the intake box, nothing......

Any ideas ?
Old 12-08-2006 | 08:07 PM
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Or just use a breather filter you can pick up from AutoZone and cap the intake port.
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Originally Posted by ucleadguitar
Or just use a breather filter you can pick up from AutoZone and cap the intake port.
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Old 12-18-2006 | 01:11 AM
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Interestingly, I have not seen too many RX-8s in the ghetto.
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ghetto!
What's ghetto about a Breather instead of the return line to the intake?
Old 12-18-2006 | 06:59 AM
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I've used them before and they don't catch as much as you'd like. That's if there's even enough pressure in the crankcase (and most think there isn't) to push oily vapor out. If that's the case then it's still useless.
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I did both...

oil catch can, with a breather on the end of it.

My catch can is about half way full right now, need to dump it soon.
Old 12-18-2006 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by mysql101
I did both...

oil catch can, with a breather on the end of it.

My catch can is about half way full right now, need to dump it soon.
do u happen to have a picture of your setup??
Old 12-18-2006 | 08:55 AM
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I'll snap some new photos tonight - if I don't forget.
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mysql101...Love the Lord of the Rings reference.

See this from another thred on Oil Catch Cans:

http://www.finishlineperformance.co...050-06-1664.pdf

If you prefer, you can get the new '06 setup done at the dealership. No need for the Oil Catch Can.

Edit: I don't think the link is working, I'll try and find the thread again!
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Old 12-20-2006 | 07:29 AM
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So they use lower intake manifold vacuum to pull the oily vapors in, much more close to the combustion chambers. If I had to make an educated guess, you probably wouldn't want this done if your car is boosted.
Old 12-24-2006 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by dgrx8
do u happen to have a picture of your setup??
As promised..

The breather is dry, so it looks like the catch can is working extremely well.
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Old 12-29-2006 | 04:01 PM
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I'm thinking about doing this mod. The above pics, by mysql101, are nice.

But I have a problem deciding to go with the catch can and breather, in-line filter, or the 06 Mazda mod where the return line routes to the lower intake manifold.

With the catch can and breather I'm confused about the vacuum pressure issue. It appears that some people are saying that no oil vapors actually make it to the catch can and breather. Is the filter on the breather good enough to protect you and the inside of the engine compartment from oil vapors? Is that really safe?

Even if that is the case, it appears that no oil vapors and weird condensed gunk are getting into the intake. That means only fresh air into the intake? So, it would appear that means better performance?

With the 06 Mazda mod, the oil vapors route to the lower intake manifold. I understand that this would bypass having gunk condensing in the air intake. But you are still mixing "dirty air" with fresh air. So, would this not still be limiting your performance?

Also, is it me or is there a flaw in the 06 Mazda mod? I would think that before you run the oil vapors into the lower intake manifold or even the air intake that you should have a filter to out "dirty air and vapors". In the Mazda mod, it seems that a filter to "clean the air/vapors" would make sense, so that you have cleaner air and higher performance.

So, would it not be better to simply put a filter on the return line, regardless if it goes to the air intake or lower intake manifold? This of course is what the "catch can" concept is partially about, but is a brillo pad a truly effective filter? Would an effective filter not be better than a "catch can"?

In other words would not a good in-line filter (that is a good oil from air separtor) on the return line between the air intake or lower intake manifold be the "end all" to "dirty air", "oil vapors", and condensed gunk.

If so, than what is the best type of in-line filter?

I'm interested in which options people think is better to do.

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Old 12-30-2006 | 07:30 PM
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regardles... u'd still have hot nasty oil vapor entering the intake manifold.
i've had just a breather attached for months now & i have not noticed any oil vapor sludge anywhere in my engine bay. the only thing is... i'm starting to wonder if all the vapors are causing building in the oil system. the only problem w/ the crankcase breather as mentioned on all the threads here... is the doubt of insufficient ventilation due to not providing any vacuum...


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