ive done some searching, and have found out what intake and exhaust system i want.

but here is my question. what other mods can i do to the car that will free up some HP. i wanna beat the ion's and s2000's, while still keeping my car's warrenty (IE no nitrous or turbo).

im thinking pullys, (no ignition mods else VOID!!), header back exhaust, cold air intake. thats about all i cna think of, please post up ideas :D.

 

you did not search very hard.

put in the search box intake.
then after you read that try
exaust..

then
flywheel

then
turbonator


beers

 

turbonator...? sounds like some rice stuff that claims ill get 10 more MPG with a electric turbo.....

 

I don't think you are going to reach your performance goal without more help. If you are talking about street racing keep in mind we don't condone illegal activities here and if that is your intention you will get seriously flamed here for it. If you are talking about on the track that is a different story altogether.

An intake and exhaust will free up a few horsepower but nothing more than a couple of tenths of a second in the quarter mile at best. This car just doesn't respond well to bolt on mods as Mazda actually did a pretty good job on the factory components. The two things I'd get are an ecu upgrade of some sort whether it be a new ecu that is fully programmable or just a Racing Beat reflash of your stock ecu. A flywheel will also give you some noticable gains. Don't expect miracles though. If you so much as race an S2000 with any mods at all, your advantage or at least your chance to be on an even playing field will be gone so remember that.

I don't know how you can't beat an Ion. My friend has one. That's competition for my stock 2000 Civic EX not something faster like an RX-8.

 

sorry,

rg has got it right...

but you could find that and not come up with anything more.

beers

 

good thinking.

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=95460

beers

 

swoope, did you try the turbonator yet?

 

nope,

but did a search and got the other three.

beers

 

but if you got one he or she is looking to buy something!!!

sorry i kid i kid..

beers

 

performance chip!!

 

no,

stupid me. i got the intake, exhaust and flywheel... intake chip!!!!

i miss all the good stuff... i dont know how much it is, but it is to much for me.... i am spent...

damn, i always miss the boat..

beers

 

ok. so flywheel, and ECU are a little more benificial to the gains then CAI/exhaust.

this is all auto-x and road course. i dont street race anymore after a friend got seriously hurt while on the sidelines. its the dumbest thing in the world IMO.

so thats about it? my bolt on options are CAI/Exhaust/pullys/ECU/flywheel? maybe a new set of upper and lower intakes would make a better difference, cause i dont feel like bridgeporting my engine :D

 

Ion Redline will give the 8 a run for its money in the 1/4 mile, maybe that's what he was talking about .


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computer
midpipe or high flow cat
perhaps a flywheel
final drive

everything else gives you very little, except (hopefully...but not always) weight savings (e.g. Racing Beat exhaust is heavier than stock). There're still people that claim a certain catback actually gives significant gains, but it's a bunch of dyno magic like everyone else's in my opinion.

 

Hi-flow cat will help a bit as well. Shown about a 6-8 hp gain. Main restriction point in the exhaust. Pullies are debatable at best (some like them & claim hp increase, Some/I don't think they work very well & you are better off getting the hi-flow cat with the money.

If I was going all NA I would do :

1) Piggyback ECU - Used Canzoomer, and tuned
2) RP Supercat - Hi-flow cat
3) Air Intake - Racing Beat Revi w/Ram Air attachment or AEM
4) Catback exhaust - Racing Beat, Mazdaspeed, Greddy, Borla, etc.

If you are autocrossing quite a bit, may be better off looking at a nice Mazdaspeed suspension setup. That will probably drop your times more than the extra power will.

 

My car was pretty much even with a done up Grand Prix GTP, i only have intake its not he can be a shitty driver its auto... are ions faster then GTPs?

edit: he started to pull at around 120-130KM

 

thats what i needed to know wo0t!.

but ya, my friend has the 2.0 supercharged ion redline with intake and exhaust. he says he smokes rx8's all day long and i wanna prove him wrong in the twisties at the local track.

 

fast or not its still a saturn

 

I used to autocross several years ago. I remember that the times between my nonturbo 2nd gen RX-7 and my friend's Turbo 2nd gen RX-7 were always within a 10th of a second with him taking the lead. His suspension was better than mine and he obviously had more power. It was all driver. At the same time there was never a C5 Corvette that could be us but consequently never a Miata or 1st gen RX-7 that I could beat. The size of the track has a huge effect on who beats who in what car.

 

as well as driver skill

sorry i had to throw that one in there, nobody had done it yet

 

slow or not, the Rx-8 is still just a Mazda.

I just don't get statements like this.

 

Ion redline = GMs pathetic attempt at making a family car into the newest tuner car, which still looks tacky IMO, can't vouche for how fast they are tho. Saturn only has 1 decent car which would be the Sky, and apparently they lack in the performance area too.

 

As much as I am a Mazda enthusiast, it is easy to say the same thing about the RX-8. Many people call it a pathetic attempt at making a sports car into a family car.

 

i guess you can look at it that way. personally i dont think any so called sport car should be a FWD..

 

If you can't beat a Saturn Ion on an Autocross course, there are some deep problems. Not even talking 1/4 mile or acceleration. The RX8 is a much better braking & handling car. If the track has more than 2 turns you should be able to put bus legnths on this guy.

 

lol i love how people compare Cars with turbos/SC to NAs... obviously the SC or Turboed car is going to be just as fast if not faster....slap a Turbo or a SC on the 8.. then laugh as it eats your dust!