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Old 07-31-2006 | 07:39 PM
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Power Mod EMS for N/A tune - installed

I've had this EMS sitting at home for weeks while I wait for bolt on parts from RX7store. Got sick of waiting so decided to install . I have not done any tuning with it yet ( all the maps are set to 0 from factory) but can report that so far there are no issues with the way the car runs.
Install was very straightforward & looks pretty tidy to me.
Hoping to get some conservative MAPS from Rotormaster later today that will a least give me some performance gains to enjoy while I wait for the other parts.
Will dyno tune at that time .

Cost is cheaper than Interceptor x but more than E-manage Ultimate. This is the same EMS that Rotormaster use in thier supercharged car.


Edit - just added dyno done yesterday 30th Aug
Blue line is factory tune
Black line is Rotormaster mild tune which is minus 10% fuel at high RPM
Green line a map I played with leaning it out by 14% at high RPM
No tuning was done on the dyno as was getting flywheel installed & did not have time. Hope to tune with scanalyser myself then go back next week for a full tune
Notes :
first graph is in KW & shows AFRs second graph shows HP & Tourque
got a 7-8 hp gain at top end but needs some smoothing out of AFRs
could not go past 8300 rpm as speed limiter kicked in (185km/hr in 4th)
so could add another 5 or so hp

Before you slam my car as weak *** . This is a Dyno Dynamics which typically shows readings approx 15hp lower than the ones used in US. Taking that into consideration would give a peak around 190 by US figures.

Edit : 22/9/06 Dyno tuned chart added - see pg2 in thread for more detail

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Old 07-31-2006 | 07:47 PM
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looks good. lets see some numbers! woot woot!
Old 07-31-2006 | 07:49 PM
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^ i second that
Old 07-31-2006 | 08:12 PM
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So does it intercept the signal, or alter it? Basically, with this, do you have to worry about LTFT?
Old 07-31-2006 | 08:21 PM
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remember the ric shaw unit? same thing
Old 07-31-2006 | 08:32 PM
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So does it intercept the signal, or alter it? Basically, with this, do you have to worry about LTFT?
It can work either way . can control injectors directly or modify factory signal.
Old 07-31-2006 | 08:35 PM
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remember the ric shaw unit? same thing
I'm told it is improved since "ric shaw" but not sure how .
Old 08-01-2006 | 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by lazi
looks good. lets see some numbers! woot woot!
Just been talking with Joe at Rotormaster . It seems there IS a conservative tune in there already.
Was not going to mention that the car feels stronger mid to high RPM range because I thought I must have imagined it ...................
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Been running this for a couple of weeks now & happy to report the car runs perfectly .
No issues with idle /AC etc . Have played with the tuning a little ( using info from other charts i've seen here ) and it is very easy to tune . Currently trying to get parts together to make the AFR readout work so I can tune "on the fly" .
I've read all the issues people seem to have with E manage & interceptor - this unit does not seem to have those issues - at least in N/A setup anyway.
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what issues are we having with the ultimate and int-x?
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are you saying there are no issues ?
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I'm not saying anything - you said that you don't see the issues those using the Ultimate and int-x are having. I just wanted to know what you're referring to.

MM has his ultimate working flawlessly, and I know of many int-x users who are also up and running, and quite happy with the results.
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where can i purchase the power mod from?
Old 08-13-2006 | 10:48 PM
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Heard of issues with idle & AC on the interceptor & the emanage seemed to be something that required a lot of mucking around to get right - thats all I was meaning . Was not trying to slam them- they obviously can be made to work well.
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Originally Posted by LeeBunnyz
where can i purchase the power mod from?
http://rotormaster.com.au

Specs here
http://www.dnamotorsport.com/PowerMod/PowerMod.html
Old 08-14-2006 | 08:59 AM
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I sent an email to DNAmotorsport earlier today,and guess what, I have already gotten a reply These guys/girls seems to be very service minded, and told me it was possible to use their ECU in my European RX-8 The only thing left now is a dynochart....
Old 08-30-2006 | 06:29 PM
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Dyno added to first post
Old 08-31-2006 | 08:49 AM
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Do you have a permanent CEL with this, or in the future with FI will you be getting a permanent CEL?
Old 08-31-2006 | 02:57 PM
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In N/A form you only modify settings in open loop as there are no gains in clossed loop anyway . For Turbo you can trick the factory ecu to think you are in open loop at lower throttle settings. So - no cel
Old 08-31-2006 | 10:25 PM
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Brettus, have you fitted your agency pulley yet, ie was it installed for dyno run?

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no - fitiing that tomorrow along with RB duct . Then back to the dyno for a tune next week or the following . Hope to be able to show a before & after all mods dyno then.
Old 08-31-2006 | 11:19 PM
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Looking forward to your opinions of the pulley when you install.

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Old 09-02-2006 | 01:14 AM
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Have installed pulley & duct now . I can't really tell any diference
However -as a result of all my mods the car feels stronger for sure . Just did some rolling acceleration tests against my mates Toyota Soarer . Pre mods we were always neck & neck from about 45mph up to 100mph . Now I get about 3 car lengths on him . So - yes it is quicker .
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get your scanalizyer yet..

the intake air temp drop as you get over 100 km is impressive.

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