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05-30-2007, 02:05 PM
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planning on going with the flash but i got a question: are the ones experiencing the cut outs at idle and the CEL and security light are you guys running the street flash or race flash?
I know some have no screens and experience the cut out, but with my revi and screens should that problem not occur?
So with the flash, its better to run 87?
I hate putting 87 in my car.
and last thing, after installation is it necessary for everyone experiencing immediate power lag to unplug the battery and let it sit overnight?
Just want to clear things up before I send it over to RB.
-Patrick
I know some have no screens and experience the cut out, but with my revi and screens should that problem not occur?
So with the flash, its better to run 87?
I hate putting 87 in my car.and last thing, after installation is it necessary for everyone experiencing immediate power lag to unplug the battery and let it sit overnight?
Just want to clear things up before I send it over to RB.
-Patrick
05-30-2007, 02:36 PM
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"planning on going with the flash but i got a question: are the ones experiencing the cut outs at idle and the CEL and security light are you guys running the street flash or race flash?"
im running the race flash...
"I know some have no screens and experience the cut out, but with my revi and screens should that problem not occur?"
u shouldent have a problem with cutting out cuz i have the revi without screens.
"So with the flash, its better to run 87? I hate putting 87 in my car."
i noticed that 87 immediately felt better
"and last thing, after installation is it necessary for everyone experiencing immediate power lag to unplug the battery and let it sit overnight?"
someone told me to let it sit overnight without the battery. i dunno if it helped but i would do it anyway. it cant hurt....
where exactly in the bay u from?
im running the race flash...
"I know some have no screens and experience the cut out, but with my revi and screens should that problem not occur?"
u shouldent have a problem with cutting out cuz i have the revi without screens.
"So with the flash, its better to run 87? I hate putting 87 in my car."
i noticed that 87 immediately felt better
"and last thing, after installation is it necessary for everyone experiencing immediate power lag to unplug the battery and let it sit overnight?"
someone told me to let it sit overnight without the battery. i dunno if it helped but i would do it anyway. it cant hurt....
where exactly in the bay u from?
05-30-2007, 05:49 PM
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Since you PM'ed me:
Me= Race flash, no screens.
Its always better to run 87, as long as your car doesn't ping. Mazsport Scott tuned the NA engine using the INTX and found that 87 does make more power than 93. Why is cheaper and more power a bad thing?
It is not necessary for you to pull the battery cable and let it sit overnight, but it further resets the cars computer system, allowing it to restart fresh. It really cant hurt.
planning on going with the flash but i got a question: are the ones experiencing the cut outs at idle and the CEL and security light are you guys running the street flash or race flash?
I know some have no screens and experience the cut out, but with my revi and screens should that problem not occur?
So with the flash, its better to run 87? I hate putting 87 in my car.
and last thing, after installation is it necessary for everyone experiencing immediate power lag to unplug the battery and let it sit overnight?
Just want to clear things up before I send it over to RB.
I know some have no screens and experience the cut out, but with my revi and screens should that problem not occur?
So with the flash, its better to run 87? I hate putting 87 in my car.
and last thing, after installation is it necessary for everyone experiencing immediate power lag to unplug the battery and let it sit overnight?
Just want to clear things up before I send it over to RB.
Its always better to run 87, as long as your car doesn't ping. Mazsport Scott tuned the NA engine using the INTX and found that 87 does make more power than 93. Why is cheaper and more power a bad thing?
It is not necessary for you to pull the battery cable and let it sit overnight, but it further resets the cars computer system, allowing it to restart fresh. It really cant hurt.
06-08-2007, 06:46 PM
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I'm sending my ECU off this Monday for this little Race flash deal... I figure i'll add a Magnaflow resonator in too muffle the sound, with my all ready gutted Magnaflow CAT mid pipe from rx8store. I should expect at least 20 hp, even though I won't bother with dyno's...
My main reason is so that I can buy cheaper gas, and still retain stock look. Also power...
Post results probably by this time next week
My main reason is so that I can buy cheaper gas, and still retain stock look. Also power...
Post results probably by this time next week
06-08-2007, 07:31 PM
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I'm sending my ECU off this Monday for this little Race flash deal... I figure i'll add a Magnaflow resonator in too muffle the sound, with my all ready gutted Magnaflow CAT mid pipe from rx8store. I should expect at least 20 hp, even though I won't bother with dyno's...
My main reason is so that I can buy cheaper gas, and still retain stock look. Also power...
Post results probably by this time next week
My main reason is so that I can buy cheaper gas, and still retain stock look. Also power...
Post results probably by this time next week
Also, I have noticed that power only really kicks in once the water temp is over 210 degrees Fahrenheit, and oil is over 200 degrees. Under that performance is "the usual." But once I get the engine hot enough it really has some omph to it.
Maybe Racing Beat made the "race" map only active when the the engine is actually going to be driven hard ie. very warm water temps. If you have a temp gauge installed you will be able to see that average driving around town keeping it civil brings temps to a MAX of 200 degrees. Only when you really rev it continously does it go upwards of 205 degrees. Even at > 6K rpms my water doesnt go above 220 even on 95 degree days over here!
06-08-2007, 07:36 PM
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, its all about the supporting mods
06-08-2007, 07:40 PM
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Yeah, but I was using premium when I dynoed the last two times, the only reason why I switched back to 87 is because I wanted to try something new to try and regain my lost ponies.
But now that I have new wheels the comparison is kind of shot, yeaaa.
The next dyno you guys are going to see is probably after my 4.77 final drive install. I just need the bearings and oil seals to arrive. Hopefully next week sometime.
But now that I have new wheels the comparison is kind of shot, yeaaa.
The next dyno you guys are going to see is probably after my 4.77 final drive install. I just need the bearings and oil seals to arrive. Hopefully next week sometime.
06-10-2007, 03:11 AM
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i heard the final drive won't give you any hp. juss makes you rev higher and hit redline sooner. Hence, getting more power in the lower speeds. am i right or wrong?
06-10-2007, 07:26 AM
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Mostly Correct - no hp - no higher reving - and to be exact you're getting the same power as you always had just at lower speeds, giving you a faster accelerating car with a lower top speed in each gear.
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06-10-2007, 07:45 AM
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06-10-2007, 10:34 AM
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After doing a few searches all I can find are some rather dubious dyno sheets on the RB Flash. Have I missed finding some reliable dyno sheets or hasn't anyone really done any yet?
I'm more interested in the Street Flash then the Race Flash.
I'm more interested in the Street Flash then the Race Flash.
06-10-2007, 01:11 PM
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06-10-2007, 09:36 PM
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06-15-2007, 12:17 PM
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yay! I got my ECU back today! First off, I noticed how much colder my AC was.... I recently just sold Mazsport's cooling mod, and was dying in the heat for soooo long..
So for the first 10 miles I was running on 93 octane while my gas needle was getting close too below the Empty... I got extremely excited to finally be able too buy myself some 87 octane and screw over the gas companies! I added on another 10 miles using 87 octane, and haven't really come too any conclusions of if it helped or not, because I know the ECU will take a day or two too learn my hectic driving skills... Or lack of....
Anyway... First off let it be known that I was driving in Houston's renowned 95 degree humid/nasty weather, so heat soak was the name of the game for that run... Awkwardly enough though I would describe the gains that my 8 have as if I was actually running in 60 degree weather... Oh, and hitting 70 in 2nd gear was the biggest rush I've ever had in this car...
I seem too have the same issue as static with my security light blinking though... It blinks consistently for about 1-2 minutes then blinks once in a while for 5 minutes after that, then turns off...
I'll post again in a couple of days when I feel the ECU has learned my 8 well enough, and the temperature lowers...
Another thing I automatically noticed is how much smoother my 8 runs, it doesn't seem too hesitate at specific RPM's just runs through em like a beast! Of course my engine died 3 times during this run (specifically after flooring it), but I'm sure that it won't happen once the ECU learns my driving well enough. Either way, I've had my engine die (after flooring it) before I had this ECU, and yes I have one of those MAF screens with the K&N typhoon intake.
So for the first 10 miles I was running on 93 octane while my gas needle was getting close too below the Empty... I got extremely excited to finally be able too buy myself some 87 octane and screw over the gas companies! I added on another 10 miles using 87 octane, and haven't really come too any conclusions of if it helped or not, because I know the ECU will take a day or two too learn my hectic driving skills... Or lack of....
Anyway... First off let it be known that I was driving in Houston's renowned 95 degree humid/nasty weather, so heat soak was the name of the game for that run... Awkwardly enough though I would describe the gains that my 8 have as if I was actually running in 60 degree weather... Oh, and hitting 70 in 2nd gear was the biggest rush I've ever had in this car...
I seem too have the same issue as static with my security light blinking though... It blinks consistently for about 1-2 minutes then blinks once in a while for 5 minutes after that, then turns off...
I'll post again in a couple of days when I feel the ECU has learned my 8 well enough, and the temperature lowers...
Another thing I automatically noticed is how much smoother my 8 runs, it doesn't seem too hesitate at specific RPM's just runs through em like a beast! Of course my engine died 3 times during this run (specifically after flooring it), but I'm sure that it won't happen once the ECU learns my driving well enough. Either way, I've had my engine die (after flooring it) before I had this ECU, and yes I have one of those MAF screens with the K&N typhoon intake.
06-15-2007, 12:27 PM
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06-15-2007, 12:35 PM
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cool... Apparently the reason the security light blinks is because they disable the chip that exists in the key's function... Doesn't really bother me, at least it goes off after 5 minutes... The reason they told me they do this is because it's meant for a race car...
okay then! time for some more spirited driving! In my official race car... With it's blinking security light...
okay then! time for some more spirited driving! In my official race car... With it's blinking security light...
06-15-2007, 02:33 PM
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I still dont understand why people are running 87 with a flash. Last thing I'd want to do is spray gas that ignites (easier) in a motor that is hot as fk. IDK how lean the car runs with the flash but it could add to more engine heat.
IDK all to well how he motor works, but if it has knock sensors and can retard timing. You "could" be driving around getting less hp cause the computer is messing up your timing so the car doesnt ping, might even get worse mpg.
Octane, is "suppose" to be the gasoline’s resistance to burning, 87 lights off more easy then 91.
I'll pay the extra 3$
IDK all to well how he motor works, but if it has knock sensors and can retard timing. You "could" be driving around getting less hp cause the computer is messing up your timing so the car doesnt ping, might even get worse mpg.
Octane, is "suppose" to be the gasoline’s resistance to burning, 87 lights off more easy then 91.
I'll pay the extra 3$
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06-15-2007, 02:40 PM
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ey guys one quick question about this flash. i know its been talked about a bit but not really into depth.
if people are getting better results with 87 octane gasoline and this gas, would that not affect the engine if your using nitrous? we are supposed to use 91 octane gasoline with shot of nitrous? since we are using 87 with nitrous, that would mean more knocking which isn't good at all.
wat are we supposed to use then? i know chalres said that we can still use this flash with nitrous because they do not change the gas given to the engine. but we are changing the grade of the gas... so what then?
if people are getting better results with 87 octane gasoline and this gas, would that not affect the engine if your using nitrous? we are supposed to use 91 octane gasoline with shot of nitrous? since we are using 87 with nitrous, that would mean more knocking which isn't good at all.
wat are we supposed to use then? i know chalres said that we can still use this flash with nitrous because they do not change the gas given to the engine. but we are changing the grade of the gas... so what then?
06-15-2007, 02:58 PM
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cool... Apparently the reason the security light blinks is because they disable the chip that exists in the key's function... Doesn't really bother me, at least it goes off after 5 minutes... The reason they told me they do this is because it's meant for a race car...
okay then! time for some more spirited driving! In my official race car... With it's blinking security light...
okay then! time for some more spirited driving! In my official race car... With it's blinking security light...
