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Old 03-31-2005 | 10:15 PM
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Pricing for the Revi intake is $320.00, I just saw it on RB website.
Old 03-31-2005 | 10:25 PM
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Well it's about time. I will have to get one of these.
Old 03-31-2005 | 10:53 PM
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This thing is a work of art. This is definitely worth the wait. Trust me!
Go change your shorts :p

Perfect Price also! Nice job RB
Old 03-31-2005 | 11:10 PM
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dang thats a pretty intake...........i think intake is next for me..
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http://www.racingbeat.com/resultset....rtnumber=18299

REVi RX-8 Intake System*
*Legal in California only for racing vehicles, which may never be used upon a highway.

so this intake is illegal to use on the road?
Old 04-01-2005 | 01:29 AM
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http://www.racingbeat.com/resultset....rtnumber=18299

REVi RX-8 Intake System*
*Legal in California only for racing vehicles, which may never be used upon a highway.

so this intake is illegal to use on the road?
i was wondering the same thing when i was reading this... can any one clarify? i dont wanna get something thats gonna make me get another fix-it-ticket :/ ahh what am i sayin gi dont think nething is gonna stop me from gettin this intake, but what's that mean?
Old 04-01-2005 | 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Mikelikes2drive
i was wondering the same thing when i was reading this... can any one clarify? i dont wanna get something thats gonna make me get another fix-it-ticket :/ ahh what am i sayin gi dont think nething is gonna stop me from gettin this intake, but what's that mean?
sounds like it doesn't come with CARB certification, which is suprising, considering it is Racing Beat. Maybe they're still working on certifying it.
Old 04-01-2005 | 02:02 AM
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When installed, it doesn't even look out of place. If you don't know exactly what that car looks like under the hood, you'd never know it didn't come that way. Just cover up the Racing Beat emblem. It would pass 9 out of 10 visual inspections with no questions.
Old 04-01-2005 | 02:43 AM
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SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET. i just saw this on there web-site. loks great. but wouldn't it be pointless if i plan on getting a turbo....or can i route the intake into this one from the turbo?
I was wondering the same thing. If I got this intake would it still be usable if I went FI later on?
Old 04-01-2005 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Cam
I was wondering the same thing. If I got this intake would it still be usable if I went FI later on?
Depends on what type of setup you are looking at. You would need to make the turn off the end of the horn pipe to go to the blower, and then make a turn to come back up to the throttle body - could be a tight fit for two 90's in there.

Then again, you could always sell it on the forum later on when you decide to charge your 8. :D

I ordered mine last night - and also will go FI one day down the road, but for now I could not resist myself and ordered it. I have been waiting for this one.
Old 04-01-2005 | 11:34 AM
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hmm true true...well i'll parobable get it since i do liek teh produscts that racing beat makes...i'll get it as soon as i find out what is going on with my cltuch/pressure plate (or god forbid tranny)...she is making funny sounds when starting. ah well probable somethig i did to her. lol. hmm adding one more 90 deg. bend might not be too bad right? hmm okay maybe it woudl be....but at leat it wouldn't suck up all teh hot engine air that way. ah well when i finaly get a turbo (been sayign that for a while now ) i'll see if i can work it..if not it'll go up on here:D
Old 04-01-2005 | 12:12 PM
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And what the **** is so special about this? The vfad junk is removed for it right? So what makes it any different than some other intake besides being overpriced? Just because they have a specially made filter and "tuned" maf tube or whatever?

Waste of money IMO.
Old 04-01-2005 | 12:17 PM
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If you don't like it, don't buy one. More for the rest of us. It's pricey for a reason. It works.



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Old 04-01-2005 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ChopsMcgraw
It works.

I'm 'hoping' it works...Although, I can't see RB producing something that doesn't offer at least one advantage over stock.

Their exhausts offer two - looks, and sound.

Old 04-01-2005 | 12:30 PM
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Hey man, I'll tell you what. When I get mine installed, I'll drive somewhere where all the King, Pierce, and Thurston County 8 owners can see it, feel it, and test drive it. Sound like a plan? Then you can make your own judgements based on real World scenarios.

I'll PM all Washignton owners when it is ready to go - sound OK?
Old 04-01-2005 | 12:43 PM
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A few points to note:
  • CARB certification probably won't happen for another year or two. It costs around $5k and only valid for the model years its tested on.
  • the intake takes in air from the nose, under/through the front bumper.
  • later this summer they plan to produce a "ram air" tube that attaches to the intake opening and presumably points straight through the front bumper.
  • either way using this intake with an intercooler mounted in the bumper is a bad idea, since you don't want to warm air.
Having said all that, I plan to see if some sort of "ram air" tube can be fabricated that works with a Greddy intercooler in place. I definitely don't like Greddy's intake solution and SR Motorsports is the only other option available. They actually make an intake designed to work with the Greddy turbo kit but it's $500 and has a very small intake opening.
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Old 04-01-2005 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by dDuB
Just because they have a specially made filter and "tuned" maf tube or whatever?

Waste of money IMO.
thats exactly what makes this one special, the tuned length maf tube and airhorn plus the rotational molded airbox. as it was so well put earlier "it works" please read what i quoted from own review in my post on the prior page. Or read the review by Brian Goodwin at www.good-win-racing.com anyone that wants to see/hear mine can come to the NW Rotor Rally at the Apple Blossom Festival in Wenatchee Washington http://www.nwrotorrally.org/schedule.php may 6 thru may 8. unfortunatley i understand nemisis8(kevin) wont be there to compare between his w/racing beat exhaust and mine with stock exhaust.
Old 04-01-2005 | 12:57 PM
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I don't know...it is what it is.

$320.00 for 2-3 hp across the RPM range (per RB) and "better" sound.

I ponyed up for the RB exhaust for 2-3 HP and better sound and I'm happy with the result, but I think I'll pass on this one.
Old 04-01-2005 | 01:03 PM
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well when you consider that its a hp increase across the entire range instead of all at the top and a loss at the bottom as with some intakes... and i dont have a dyno to say so but i would say its more than 3. 5-10 would be my guess. im sure RB has the numbers and will be available in a couple of days.
Old 04-01-2005 | 02:00 PM
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And what the **** is so special about this? The vfad junk is removed for it right? So what makes it any different than some other intake besides being overpriced? Just because they have a specially made filter and "tuned" maf tube or whatever?

Waste of money IMO.
You know what they say about opinions...

Actually when you see this piece and then compare it to the other intake systems on the market, you will ask what is so special about everyone else. This is in an entirely different league. K&N Typhoon, SR Motorsports, Rotary Extreme, HKS, etc... are all cheaply manufactured and thrown together junk when placed next to this piece. This is a work of art. The craftsmanship is superb. It was actually designed with performance in mind as opposed to being designed quickly in order to make a quick profit from those who will believe anything. The RX-8 is a very finicky car when it comes to intake mods. It isn't as easy as it used to be in terms of just bolting any old part on the car and getting gains out of it. Racing Beat put an aweful lot of work into this system and they also have more actual dyno time as well as GPS based vehicle acceleration data on how well this car performs than anyone else out there. All the rest are mere toddlers in the intake community compared to this piece.

Which other intake for the RX-8 has a proper bell radius for smooth airflow? Actually Mazda did it stock but most of the aftermarket doesn't. That's a step backwards for a simple cone filter. I'm sure there's some $1000+ intake in Japan somewhere that does but that's not even comparable in price and is probably still inferior in quality. The bell radius isn't even plastic. It's spun aluminum. The maf tube is cnc machined aluminum, not some piece of pipe with a maf fitting welded to it. The filter was custom designed to work with this unit. Racing Beat understands very well unlike almost every other manufacturer that acoustics play a huge part in performance. The size of the box, the size of the filter, and the length and diameter of the intake tubing all affect each other when it comes to proper tuning. This can't just be guessed by slapping a filter on a tube, adding a shield, and saying "here it is". That's what the others have done. K&N probably just loves the terrible feedback they've gotten from the Typhoon system. They are completely redesigning it in admittance that it is crap. I will give Rotary Extreme some credit in that they figured out that for the diameter pipe they are using with the filter they are using, the pipe had to be a certain length and protrude into the filter so far to idle good. Too bad there is no airbox, just a simple shield, and no bell radius inside the filter. That right there loses 20% in airflow and doesn't help laminar flow. If you don't test, you don't know.

Yes the VFAD is removed. When you drive this car with the RB intake though, you can't tell it is gone. There is no noticable loss of low end. The total intake area into the airbox is also larger than the factory box. Even with the VFAD removed on the stock box, it still can't flow this much. When you drive this up through the rpm range, you don't feel the intake transistion points as much. It is really just much smoother and more refined. At idle the sound is stock. Even at cruising rpm's the sound is almost stock. There is no annoying ricer droning sound. At full throttle it does get louder but not unbearably so. It sounds very nice and aggressive but very smooth. You won't go deaf from it but it is enough that you can tell it is there. This was another area that Racing Beat concentrated on figuring that the typical RX-8 owner would be more mature and want a more refined sounding vehicle rather than a louder ricer sounding one.

This intake is a tank. It is built very well, fits fantastic, looks good, sounds good, and most importantly was designed properly. Anyone can take a piece of sheet aluminum, cut and bend it into a heat shield, weld a maf flange (cnc or otherwise) onto a tube, stick a filter on it, make some claims and sell it. Almost any single aspect of this system has far more time and effort placed in it that every other intake system has in the entire product. Is it possible that the others out there do gain power? Yes. They may gain a couple of peak horsepower. While great for dyno numbers and product sales, this tells you nothing in terms of performance and certainly doesn't help you in acceleration. Racing Beat designed theirs to work good everywhere possible. They aren't even done improving it yet as later this year it will get better still with the ram air duct. The only compromise that Racing Beat made with this intake and it's pricing is that they can't appeal to the person who wants the cheapest parts on the market. That's ok though. That's not really an insult. That's smart.

I've got no complaints about this system. I feel that EVERY other intake option out there is obsolete and a complete joke when placed next to this one. $320 may seem high but this is comparing it to products that really aren't even in the same league. In reality even $150 is a ripoff for the other alternatives. They aren't worth it. This one is. People have it backwards. They aren't paying too much for a good intake system (Racing Beat). They are paying too much for crap intake systems (pick one!). Look at some of the intakes in Japan that appear to actually have some development put into them. $1000+. Racing Beat is a bargain if anything.

Not that it means much but they've got my endorsement.
Old 04-01-2005 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ChopsMcgraw
If you don't like it, don't buy one. More for the rest of us. It's pricey for a reason. It works.



Chops

I'm not planning on buying one. And what reason is that? Got any proof? How do YOU know their "claims" aren't as faulty as say the K&N intake? I'll believe it when someone on this board proves it, granted I trust Racing Beat over K&N, but still you can't take a manufacturers word as truth always.

Originally Posted by Nemesis8
Hey man, I'll tell you what. When I get mine installed, I'll drive somewhere where all the King, Pierce, and Thurston County 8 owners can see it, feel it, and test drive it. Sound like a plan? Then you can make your own judgements based on real World scenarios.

I'll PM all Washignton owners when it is ready to go - sound OK?

That'd probably be better than just readint about it, I appreciate your willingness to help and give experience to people. My problem is, I just don't see it being better than any other generic cone filter in a box considering that the VFAD/extra ducting is removed.


Originally Posted by zoom44
thats exactly what makes this one special, the tuned length maf tube and airhorn plus the rotational molded airbox. as it was so well put earlier "it works" please read what i quoted from own review in my post on the prior page. Or read the review by Brian Goodwin at www.good-win-racing.com anyone that wants to see/hear mine can come to the NW Rotor Rally at the Apple Blossom Festival in Wenatchee Washington http://www.nwrotorrally.org/schedule.php may 6 thru may 8. unfortunatley i understand nemisis8(kevin) wont be there to compare between his w/racing beat exhaust and mine with stock exhaust.
I wont be attending Appleblossom (even though many people from rx7club are trying to persuade me to go) mainly because I don't have the time or the great interest in it.

Like I've said, my main issue is that I don't see this being any better than other intake systems (excluding the K&N pos) and I don't understand how it's supposed to be so great even when the ducting crap gets taken out.
Old 04-01-2005 | 02:34 PM
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dDUB, did you even read rotarygod's post???
and why do you trust racing beat more than K&N but you still think that racing beat's claims are faulty? Has Racing Beat ever been faulty before?
You seem like a very angry person from all the posts you have posted in this thread.
Old 04-01-2005 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by \\Konig\\
dDUB, did you even read rotarygod's post???
and why do you trust racing beat more than K&N but you still think that racing beat's claims are faulty? Has Racing Beat ever been faulty before?
You seem like a very angry person from all the posts you have posted in this thread.
1. No I didn't because I have rotarygod on ignore.
2. I trust racing beat more than K&N with claims, HOWEVER if you had read my posts carefully I said "How do YOU know their "claims" aren't as faulty as say the K&N intake?" I wasn't making the assumption it is as faulty, but the average consumer doesn't know for sure if it is or isn't. All there is right now is talk until the general public has a chance to get ahold of it and test it for themselves, and dyno, etc. Sure there are people out there that have them already, but they were given the intakes by racing beat for free and are probably not going to be saying much bad about them, especially people on this board when I *think* RB somewhat sponsors the board? Not sure.
3. One thing about racing beat I don't like are their exhausts, exlcuding just the ehader and downpipe, I think they are way overpriced for what you get when you can get similar ones for cheaper or make your own for way cheaper (this is 1st, 2nd, 3rd gen rx7 and rx8 included). I also have had issues with their true dual exhaust in the past (for 2nd gen).
4. I'm not angry, I just don't see a point in spending that amount of money on it. Stuff is so expensive for rx8's right now, not just from RB, that it's retarded. Just because it's a new car things have to be expensive? Exhaust systems for example, way overpriced. But that's just my opinion.

None of you really even know if I'm right or wrong yet. Maybe I'm wrong, if so then cool good for all of you. If I'm right then that's cool also. I don't really care, I just think it's overpriced and not worth it. My .02
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this is a bit random, but i just saw a banner on this site for K&N intakes saying "9.5HP Increase on RX-8"
Wouldnt that be nice...
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1. No I didn't because I have rotarygod on ignore.


My gift to you

ou know what they say about opinions...

Actually when you see this piece and then compare it to the other intake systems on the market, you will ask what is so special about everyone else. This is in an entirely different league. K&N Typhoon, SR Motorsports, Rotary Extreme, HKS, etc... are all cheaply manufactured and thrown together junk when placed next to this piece. This is a work of art. The craftsmanship is superb. It was actually designed with performance in mind as opposed to being designed quickly in order to make a quick profit from those who will believe anything. The RX-8 is a very finicky car when it comes to intake mods. It isn't as easy as it used to be in terms of just bolting any old part on the car and getting gains out of it. Racing Beat put an aweful lot of work into this system and they also have more actual dyno time as well as GPS based vehicle acceleration data on how well this car performs than anyone else out there. All the rest are mere toddlers in the intake community compared to this piece.

Which other intake for the RX-8 has a proper bell radius for smooth airflow? Actually Mazda did it stock but most of the aftermarket doesn't. That's a step backwards for a simple cone filter. I'm sure there's some $1000+ intake in Japan somewhere that does but that's not even comparable in price and is probably still inferior in quality. The bell radius isn't even plastic. It's spun aluminum. The maf tube is cnc machined aluminum, not some piece of pipe with a maf fitting welded to it. The filter was custom designed to work with this unit. Racing Beat understands very well unlike almost every other manufacturer that acoustics play a huge part in performance. The size of the box, the size of the filter, and the length and diameter of the intake tubing all affect each other when it comes to proper tuning. This can't just be guessed by slapping a filter on a tube, adding a shield, and saying "here it is". That's what the others have done. K&N probably just loves the terrible feedback they've gotten from the Typhoon system. They are completely redesigning it in admittance that it is crap. I will give Rotary Extreme some credit in that they figured out that for the diameter pipe they are using with the filter they are using, the pipe had to be a certain length and protrude into the filter so far to idle good. Too bad there is no airbox, just a simple shield, and no bell radius inside the filter. That right there loses 20% in airflow and doesn't help laminar flow. If you don't test, you don't know.

Yes the VFAD is removed. When you drive this car with the RB intake though, you can't tell it is gone. There is no noticable loss of low end. The total intake area into the airbox is also larger than the factory box. Even with the VFAD removed on the stock box, it still can't flow this much. When you drive this up through the rpm range, you don't feel the intake transistion points as much. It is really just much smoother and more refined. At idle the sound is stock. Even at cruising rpm's the sound is almost stock. There is no annoying ricer droning sound. At full throttle it does get louder but not unbearably so. It sounds very nice and aggressive but very smooth. You won't go deaf from it but it is enough that you can tell it is there. This was another area that Racing Beat concentrated on figuring that the typical RX-8 owner would be more mature and want a more refined sounding vehicle rather than a louder ricer sounding one.

This intake is a tank. It is built very well, fits fantastic, looks good, sounds good, and most importantly was designed properly. Anyone can take a piece of sheet aluminum, cut and bend it into a heat shield, weld a maf flange (cnc or otherwise) onto a tube, stick a filter on it, make some claims and sell it. Almost any single aspect of this system has far more time and effort placed in it that every other intake system has in the entire product. Is it possible that the others out there do gain power? Yes. They may gain a couple of peak horsepower. While great for dyno numbers and product sales, this tells you nothing in terms of performance and certainly doesn't help you in acceleration. Racing Beat designed theirs to work good everywhere possible. They aren't even done improving it yet as later this year it will get better still with the ram air duct. The only compromise that Racing Beat made with this intake and it's pricing is that they can't appeal to the person who wants the cheapest parts on the market. That's ok though. That's not really an insult. That's smart.

I've got no complaints about this system. I feel that EVERY other intake option out there is obsolete and a complete joke when placed next to this one. $320 may seem high but this is comparing it to products that really aren't even in the same league. In reality even $150 is a ripoff for the other alternatives. They aren't worth it. This one is. People have it backwards. They aren't paying too much for a good intake system (Racing Beat). They are paying too much for crap intake systems (pick one!). Look at some of the intakes in Japan that appear to actually have some development put into them. $1000+. Racing Beat is a bargain if anything.

Not that it means much but they've got my endorsement.

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