TeamRX8

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thanks, there's no hurry

coolstorm92

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Richard, what type of grease did you put on the end and what type of grease is on the middle part? I need to add some.

BoosTED

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PoLaK have you tried running it without foam at the top of the boot?

I noticed a considerable difference on mine when I removed it.

This shifter is the bomb Richard. I let Truemagellan test drive my car to show how nice this shifter is. Unfortunately he needs an incentive to get it.

Richard Paul

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Lithium grease will work fine. Pennzoil 707 I think. But I don't know why you need it except for the first installation. The 8 has oil going up to the shifter. A small amount true but still it's lubed. Unlike the S2000 which has to rely on the grease forever.

It can't hurt, if you must grease go ahead.

Richard Paul

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New batch of shifters are ready, let me know what you want to do.
Back orders are going out tomorrow.

Rosso Diablo

Richard, any further developments on the noise issues?

I replaced your shifter with the standard a couple of months back as I felt the trade off between a better shift action and the resulting whines and noises wasn't doing it for me. I have tried all the tips recommended in the forum and whilst removing the green wadding had the most effect the only way I could resolve the noise issue was to loosen the gear **** to a non-sustainable level.

Any new input appreciated

Cheers

Richard Paul

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The fact is that most of the noise reduction work was done down there by LittleJohn and Gomez. If they can't help you then we will take it back and give you back your money. However you'll be the first one to do so.
I don't want anyone unhappy and keep their unit on the shelf.

I don't know if these things are car specific or person specific but I always said I'd take them back if anyone is unhappy. I looked back at your old posts and gather you tried all the Oz tricks. Loosening the **** bothers me, after removing the green monster it should have no effect. Should it John?

PoLaK

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I also find loosening the **** helps, but it bothers me as well because if I'm doing a quick drag style shift i end up unscrewing the **** while shifting and I go into the wrong gear and i can do without the wrath of my gears shrilling voice screaming at me.

i do think it is the cap on top of the illuminated **** becuase when i tap it with my fingernail it makes similar noises. DOSDOG where is this screw you speak of?

TheDosDog

Will someone unhappy with the noise level of the shifter take this picture while in 5th gear.

TheDosDog

The screw is under the round cap with the shift pattern on it. I removed the cap by placing tape over it and pulling straight up.

Richard Paul

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One of the guys on the S2k forum had a vibration noise and he wound up puting a layer of teflon tape on the threads. That stoped the noise. However I think they have metal to metal *****, the 8 doesn't. Unless you have an aftermarket ****.
In that case I've heard of the opposite problem where it seizes to the thread.

I've yet to really hear one of these making excess noise but it must be true. Oz is just to far for me to go for the experiance. I'm open to all new ideas though.

FE3P

I was getting the high pitched vibration noise too (especially on the freeway) when I first installed my AFE short shifter. After putting a layer of teflon tape around the threading, 90% of the noise went away.

Richard Paul

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It works on the Mazda too?

Richard Paul

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Wow, I found this thread on the second page.
Well if you guys think there is a problem with noise on the 8 be greatfull you don't have an S2000.
On those there is a 15% to 20% of the cars that get a buzz somewhere in the rev range and they all have it at different revs.

For that car I have a short shifter made for the JDM that uses the stock type stick with the rubber bonded two part stick. Guess what? It does the same thing as mine without it. That eliminates that as a factor.

What gives? I'm still working on it but my feeling is that the gearbox now has more leveage against the stick as the driver has less. The vibration was always there but now it is easier for it to get through. Four cyl engines alway have vibration in them. The bigger they get the worse it is. The S2000 doesn't have a balance shaft like the front drive Hondas do.

The 8 doesn't have this problem of course. That is one of the wonders of the rotary. The 8 has it ez. (I wonder if LittleJohn needs something to do?) Just thought I'd pass my problems on to you guys so you didn't think I was hanging out with Hymee running up my bar tab.

Oh yeh, the good news is that the first run sold out in two weeks. we are thrashing right now to run a bunch more. No one wants to give them up because of the little buzz. The best thing is that I had a hard time convincing those guys that there was room for improvment.

Ran some Rx units along with the Hondas so we have plenty in stock now.

Richard Paul

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I'm going to try something with the S2000 tomorrow. Although they have a vibration not a whine It still might relate. I've ordered some sheet lead which I will wrap around the stick in several different ways untill something works or I give up the idea. This might work for the 8 also. You might try it. I'd try it on mine but I have no noise to kill. You should be able to get a piece of 1/16 sheet lead at the plumbing supply or the roofing supply.

Just to expererment hose clamp it on. If it works you can figure a cleaner way later.

LittleJohn

HAHA... lost track of this thread for a while...
The noise I used to experience is at a level which is hardly noticeable.. plus I've been a bit busy.. so any further attemps to remove the last of the noise and been put on hold.. sorry..

LittleJohn

OK... some further developments....

I've now wrapped a ***** load of the teflon tape around the threads plus dropped a hunk of blue tak down the **** (i'm not sure if the blue tak is of any help.. but it's too much trouble to get it all out again..) but the teflon tape does help the noise issue even further on top of the removal of the green wadding.
I found the more tape i wrapped around the thread the better the results.. pretty much to the point where most of the thread was gone.
This also allowed me to have the **** threaded higher up the shaft with out it feeling loose when I shift hard...
the testing I've just done was at 11pm so the roads are pretty quiet... I'll confirm my results over the next few days with other passengers that are aware of the noise....

Cheers,
LJ


EDIT: RP... I was wondering if you could source a rubber subsitute for the white plastic thingy. I was trying to do this earlier but was unsuccessful in sourcing an alternative..

LittleJohn

RP.. even with the removal of the green wadding.. loosing the **** will still have a noticable effect, but only if the **** is very loose.. With the **** off all together, the noise is completely gone..

LittleJohn

Driving to work today, I did notice a substantial reduction in noise with the added teflon tape. Becareful not to wrap too much tape around the thread as it will cause the base of the **** to bulge. I'd say about 3-4 layers should be enough.
The "whining" noise is really only in 2nd and 4th gear and when coasting off throttle and can easily be mistaken for engine noise..
I'm not sure how much more time I'll put to this as the noise in my car in only really noticable if you carefully listen for it. I doubt a newbie would actually pick up on it... Although I'm still keen on trying a rubber alternative to the white plastic thingy..



Cheers,

LJ

rob3379

OK! I installed the RP shifter today. All I can say is wow what a difference! This is how the car should shift from the factory. I like the feel of engagement while going in gear and also the stifness in the shifter.

I don't really have any extra noises that some are experiencing.

Great product Richard!

Thanks,
Rob

kw1k

Any gear grinds or anything ?

rob3379

I have no grinds going into gear at all. I like the mechanical feel. I want to know when it's going into gear. It feels like my old Tremec TKO with PRO 5.0 shifter. If I had any noises it would still be worth what this shifter offers.

I drove a friends stock RX8 shifter car last night and all I can say is what a difference in shifting and feel.

Rob

crisis

It took me like 3 days of reading all 422 posts in this thread, but I will be putting in my order for an RP Shifter later today. It will be the first mod I've done to this car, or any car for that matter. The infamous clip hasn't got me too worried yet, but that's probably because I haven't tried taking it off yet. But I'm confident the DIY guide is as good as everyone has described. I can't wait to get this into my car!

NgoRX8

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You will be fine, and happy with that short shifter on. Makes it a sure shift. The DIY by gomez is very useful.

florent75

Hi
I've got a metallic noise when going between 9000-9500 rpm

really strange cause it's only after 9000rpm

I can reproduce "a little" the noise when playing with reverse gear

I think the origine is with the little piece of plastic going inside the gear box

it cover less the "ball" of the short shift" than the original
perhaps at high rpm or with big vibration I can have metallic metallic contact

cause this noise is not coming from the rubber or plastic ...