RP Short Shifter Installed (first impressions)
#202
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Getting rid of the gear whine is a good trick, sure you didn't just change stations to KILR FM :D
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One thing I forgot to mention: I spent probably 15 aggravating minutes trying to release the inside tab on the shift boot cover. Tried it both from the inside of the cup holder location, and tried again through the opening at the back of the e-brake. Arrggh. For a few minutes, I didn't think I was even going to be able to install the shifter. I finally decided to try something else. I inserted a wide, flat-blade screwdriver between the silver outer trim and the black plastic of the boot cover, and gently pried to the right. Popped right out almost instantly! No scratches or chips, although due caution is advised if going that route. Sure took care of that little obstacle.
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Okay then.....
Richard, have you made any changes to the cup at the bottom of the shifter? That's the only component I imagine you could change that would reduce the whine being transmitted into the cabin........
Gomez.
Richard, have you made any changes to the cup at the bottom of the shifter? That's the only component I imagine you could change that would reduce the whine being transmitted into the cabin........
Gomez.
#204
Originally Posted by Gomez
Okay then.....
Richard, have you made any changes to the cup at the bottom of the shifter? That's the only component I imagine you could change that would reduce the whine being transmitted into the cabin........
Gomez.
Richard, have you made any changes to the cup at the bottom of the shifter? That's the only component I imagine you could change that would reduce the whine being transmitted into the cabin........
Gomez.
Just a thought...
Bill
#206
Originally Posted by Gomez
Yep, I have that in my gearbox. Did nothing at all. I suppose it helps some shifting issues in extreme climates though.
Well, I'm starting to believe that I have a truly charmed RX-8. Never flooded, no screeching brakes, no rattles/squeaks, no misfires, no nothing that is regularly discussed as problems or issues in these pages. The only issue that I've had is one CEL. I cleared it myself, and it hasn't come back since. And yes, I'm knocking on wood....
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Nope, The only change is to the pivot box. Gomez, you can get to test that because there is a new pivot box at Hymee's for you. The only change there is to the OD, it is 2mm bigger. That is to prevent the spring retainer from rising up over.
I can't see how it lowerers the whine any. Then again everything effects the frequency of things.
Anyone else needing a new pivot box they are available now. I have some made out to first unit owners so you might wait to see if I have you covered.
I can't see how it lowerers the whine any. Then again everything effects the frequency of things.
Anyone else needing a new pivot box they are available now. I have some made out to first unit owners so you might wait to see if I have you covered.
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Btw guys I help Richard set up a Paypal button as a temporary solution to his website construction issues, the link to purchase can be found here.
http://www.axialflow.com/products.html
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I installed a short throw shifter in my 1992 300zx...I could not tell a big difference. I think the short throw shifter benefit is mainly all Hype.
I could theorize a benefit if you had a shifter that was ~1.5' tall, such as in some old muscle cars, late 80's ford escorts etc.... but not for the RX8 that already have super compact shifters.
I could theorize a benefit if you had a shifter that was ~1.5' tall, such as in some old muscle cars, late 80's ford escorts etc.... but not for the RX8 that already have super compact shifters.
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Originally Posted by Jaguar_MBA
I installed a short throw shifter in my 1992 300zx...I could not tell a big difference. I think the short throw shifter benefit is mainly all Hype.
I could theorize a benefit if you had a shifter that was ~1.5' tall, such as in some old muscle cars, late 80's ford escorts etc.... but not for the RX8 that already have super compact shifters.
I could theorize a benefit if you had a shifter that was ~1.5' tall, such as in some old muscle cars, late 80's ford escorts etc.... but not for the RX8 that already have super compact shifters.
It doesn't make the shifter itself much lower. Instead, it shortens the distance from gear to gear.
The throw of the OEM shifter is quite long - requiring your entire arm to push and pull from gear to gear. This is odd in comparison to the Miata, which has one of the greatest transmission shfters ever concieved.
RP's unit converts the RX-8 shifter to nearly the Miata's same feel and throw.
P.S. - in your SIG you note "People who have nothing of value to add, tell other people to search when they post."
Though that is essentially correct, it does not convey much truth about the situation.
Most of the people who indicate that someone should search when the information is readily available are the individuals that already provided the entire body of neccesary information on the subject.
In this particular instance, a simple search of this thread would have revealed the same answer that I provided here about the nature of this item.
I suggest you spend some time searching yourself and less time admonishing those that suggest the same.
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Originally Posted by Jaguar_MBA
I think the short throw shifter benefit is mainly all Hype.
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Originally Posted by Jaguar_MBA
I installed a short throw shifter in my 1992 300zx...I could not tell a big difference. I think the short throw shifter benefit is mainly all Hype.
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Having driven a few 300ZX's with short throw shifters installed I can agree with Jaguar in that the short throw shifter "FOR THE 300ZX" IS all hype. Didn't really shorten the throw all that much and made the shifter feel a bit "clunky".
Regarding RP's SS shifter for the RX8, I have heard nothing but great things said about it. I too would love to have that snick-snick feel to the rx8 shifter and feel that the current throws are a tad bit long.
Regarding RP's SS shifter for the RX8, I have heard nothing but great things said about it. I too would love to have that snick-snick feel to the rx8 shifter and feel that the current throws are a tad bit long.
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Having driven a few 300ZX's with short throw shifters installed I can agree with Jaguar in that the short throw shifter "FOR THE 300ZX" IS all hype. Didn't really shorten the throw all that much and made the shifter fell a bit "clunky".
Regarding RP's SS shifter for the RX8, I have heard nothing but great things said about it. I too would love to have that snick-snick feel to the rx8 shifter and feel that the current throws are a tad bit long. I will be purchasing one in the near future.
Regarding RP's SS shifter for the RX8, I have heard nothing but great things said about it. I too would love to have that snick-snick feel to the rx8 shifter and feel that the current throws are a tad bit long. I will be purchasing one in the near future.
#220
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after having it in for about 10 days and 2 tanks of gas it has some how lowered my gas mileage.
Ditto the thanks to RP!!
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Dosdog, I sent another shifter out tpday. Don't know what happened to the other one. It wiill show up here or at your place someday. Worst case you have to mail me two.
Who else out there did I exchange a shifter with? Please send back the other one so I can inspect it. I need to mike these tabs to see what is happening.
I miked one today and it was just under 25mm At this point I'm leaning towards making them 24.7. That's why I need to see the old ones. We are about down to a level where we need to run some more and I'd like to see if we can get to the best possable tolorence so eliminate these odd man out deals. No one wants to be that guy.
Who else out there did I exchange a shifter with? Please send back the other one so I can inspect it. I need to mike these tabs to see what is happening.
I miked one today and it was just under 25mm At this point I'm leaning towards making them 24.7. That's why I need to see the old ones. We are about down to a level where we need to run some more and I'd like to see if we can get to the best possable tolorence so eliminate these odd man out deals. No one wants to be that guy.
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Stevie Gomez, did you take any picture of the old and new generation RP shifter and if so, post it, please ![Wink](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/wink.gif)
There are differences that Gomez pointed out to me when I visited him on Thursday. It is a bloody impressive piece of metal ! :D
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There are differences that Gomez pointed out to me when I visited him on Thursday. It is a bloody impressive piece of metal ! :D
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Well Cam I think we have a handle on it and all the ones going out from now on have a new sized tab. Hopfully not enough to bother the ones on the other side but we have taken .25mm or .010" from the tab. The feedback I have gotten so far tells me we are about spot on. Obviously if adjusting by that small amount makes the difference then we must be close.
If it needs more then that will be, just taking it easy. You know, if you cut it off twice it can still be too short.
If it needs more then that will be, just taking it easy. You know, if you cut it off twice it can still be too short.